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Which is best obj 140 or t62a?


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hasnainrakha57 #1 Posted 24 January 2018 - 09:54 PM

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Which you think is best? Can u still pen 140 turret top after buff?

MeNoobTank #2 Posted 24 January 2018 - 09:58 PM

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Obj 430U

Agent_327 #3 Posted 24 January 2018 - 10:04 PM

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Obj 140 should be the best according to leading Streamers.

Junglist_ #4 Posted 24 January 2018 - 10:06 PM

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Since they buffed the 140s turret there's no reason to play T-62 over the 140

Edited by Junglist_, 24 January 2018 - 10:06 PM.


PeNeTrAtOrX #5 Posted 24 January 2018 - 10:47 PM

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hey!

I made a post about my opinion on this topic 6 months ago. the new turret didnt change anything about it, so it's still up to date.

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Most players don't have the understanding and the mental horizon to generate a battle performance with the given values in their mind.

It's not enough to compare only the naked values.

It's at least as important to understand their meaning and to know how different values of a tank behave with one another.

 

The comparison "obj.140 vs. T-62A" is a good example to explain the subject in more detail.

 

First the question, for which tank would i decide?

Taking into account all relevant values,

the decision can only be made for the T-62A.

Surprised??

 

 

In my opinion the effective battle performance with the T-62A is much higher. The main reason for this is the interaction of three values which play an important role for me, especially for LT's and mobile MT's.

 

these values are:

 

1. "Tank traverse"         ← time for a 360° turn by chassis

2. "Turret traverse"       ← time for a 360° turn by the turret

3. "Terrain resistance"     ← Affects the "Tank traverse" in almost all situations

 

 

In order to achieve the highest possible effective battle performance in a quite mobile tank, it is advantageous if the Turret speed is a bit or much higher than the Tank traverse.

 

This makes it possible to remain aligned with the target during extreme wild driving.

Other situations are where a flank breaks down and it's time for a tactical retreat.

The tank can turn on the spot and disappear without ever taking the crosshair away from the target (there are also people who driving backwards with 10 km/h ^^)

 

If the Turret speed is several times higher, it is also possible to aim on a target on the right side while the tank is turned to the left .

(for example, if shots come from the left side but you want to kill the one-shot guy on the right side. it's better to turn the front in direction where the shots are comming from).

Furthermore, it's advantageous if you drive with autoaim on a target and suddenly you need to sheer off hard left or right.

 

The faster the turret turns, the more reliably the crosshair sits on the target. If the tower is too slow, the crosshair often jerks off of the target if you change the direction quickly.

 

 

 

 

let's take a look at the mobility stats                      

 

               

                                          

 

 

 

 

As you can see the T-62A has besides the much faster turret also the better terrain resistance (which also ensures that the 5km/h more vmax of the obj.140 often noticeable just on the road).

 

for the effective battle performance it means, turret of the T-62A is fast enough to be able to keep up with the chassis on soft and med terrain.

Unfortunately, for hard ground, it was not quite enough...

 

But the obj.140 don't care about hard terrain.

only on soft ground the turret holds with. on med terrain it behaves roughly as with the T-62A on hard.

on hard-tarrain it seems as if the turret module is damaged...

 

while it seems on the street, as if the turret were stuck...^^

 

 

 

 

Percentage ratio of chassis to turret speed

 

 

                                                                                    

 

 

 

    greetz PeNe

http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/635574-obj-140-and-t-62-a/page__pid__14503344#entry14503344

 



Mimos_A #6 Posted 24 January 2018 - 11:08 PM

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View PostPeNeTrAtOrX, on 24 January 2018 - 10:47 PM, said:

hey!

I made a post about my opinion on this topic 6 months ago. the new turret didnt change anything about it, so it's still up to date.

http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/635574-obj-140-and-t-62-a/page__pid__14503344#entry14503344

 

 

You kind of ignore the fact that the 140 has armour to bully lower tiers and pull some miracle bounces where the t62a hull gets penned by pretty much everything. Also you're not mentioning the extra degree of gun depression. Since the buff the 140 is just the better all round tank. I like the t62a, but really, it's as obsolete as can be at the moment.



shane73tank #7 Posted 25 January 2018 - 12:24 AM

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View PostPeNeTrAtOrX, on 24 January 2018 - 09:47 PM, said:

hey!

I made a post about my opinion on this topic 6 months ago. the new turret didnt change anything about it, so it's still up to date.

http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/635574-obj-140-and-t-62-a/page__pid__14503344#entry14503344

 

 

my eyes !

Darky1029 #8 Posted 25 January 2018 - 07:31 AM

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I dont see how +/- 2 degrees in traverse is relevant when you already have above 40
Id say obj 140 is better after the turret buffs, the extra degree of gun depression is what makes it better, especially in todays meta where every map seems to be made like a teenagers face, covered with random bumps and shi t that doesn't normally occur. Also its a bit more sneaky and the gun is god tier anyways.
T62a used to have one ace up its sleeve, to wedge your [edited] oh wow, thats censored, to wedge your rear end against a hill and let them shoot the top of your turret, but its not as reliable as the obj 140 just being more mobile(hardly), and just being a more all round tank.
Long story short, go for both, but get the obj 140 first.

Edited by Darky1029, 25 January 2018 - 07:33 AM.


TankkiPoju #9 Posted 25 January 2018 - 07:38 AM

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T62A is a pretty darn good tank.

 

But Obj140 does pretty much everything as well if not better.

 

Go for Obj140 first, and if you really like playing T-54, get T62A later.



thestaggy #10 Posted 25 January 2018 - 08:15 AM

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The one with more gun depression. -5 or less gun depression is akin to having a venereal infection.

EltvilleTiger #11 Posted 25 January 2018 - 08:41 AM

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Owning both, I find myself playing the T-62a more now.  Both are extremely great tanks, however.  The gun handling on the T-62a is just a bit better.... just a bit.  

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View PostEltvilleTiger, on 25 January 2018 - 08:41 AM, said:

Owning both, I find myself playing the T-62a more now.  Both are extremely great tanks, however.  The gun handling on the T-62a is just a bit better.... just a bit.  

 

because of some reason i also perform better in the t62a than in the OBJ 

Gardar7 #13 Posted 25 January 2018 - 01:43 PM

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View PostJunglist_, on 24 January 2018 - 07:06 PM, said:

Since they buffed the 140s turret there's no reason to play T-62 over the 140

 

Except if you are interested for real tanks instead of paper/prototype vehicles. And of course if the results don't matter for you and you play only for fun.




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