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Ceeb #21 Posted 25 January 2018 - 08:41 AM

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View Postmvdt, on 25 January 2018 - 06:57 AM, said:

Well,

Time to rebuy the TVP VTU, since that tank can kill the Defender easily

 

​Really ? :sceptic:

 

I just unlocked that



mvdt #22 Posted 25 January 2018 - 08:43 AM

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View PostCeeb, on 25 January 2018 - 08:41 AM, said:

 

​Really ? :sceptic:

 

I just unlocked that

 

If I can believe WG it does!

It is one of the worst tier 8s I have ever played, tier 9 is ace tho.



Shut_The_Foch_Up #23 Posted 25 January 2018 - 08:44 AM

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Dude...the plebs on NA are so fckin lucky...they get everything all the time and still don't want to play the game...

HugSeal #24 Posted 25 January 2018 - 08:50 AM

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View PostEltvilleTiger, on 25 January 2018 - 08:39 AM, said:

In the end, it is good at what it does but it is not OP. 

 

I guess that is why you pull a 57% winrate in it rather than 51/54?



undutchable80 #25 Posted 25 January 2018 - 08:53 AM

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Is it me or is the NA news site always more detailed & forthcoming about upcoming events and stuff? Also wonder which "surprise" tank they will sell 15-26 feb...

EltvilleTiger #26 Posted 25 January 2018 - 08:55 AM

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View PostHugSeal, on 25 January 2018 - 07:50 AM, said:

 

I guess that is why you pull a 57% winrate in it rather than 51/54?

 

https://wot-life.com/eu/serverstats/  - take a look at the tanks and sort them by win rate.  notice the other tanks in the list above the Obj252 and Defender?  Stop focusing on one stat and claiming that as your vistory point.  I have other tanks that fit above my average win rate.... they are an essential requirement that is necessary to calculate an average!  

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Its Op because noobs and lower tier tanks cant deal with it. Not dissimilar to the IS6 in its heydays. Just like the jap heavies it always attracts gleeful gold spam from me whatever tier I am in.

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View PostEltvilleTiger, on 25 January 2018 - 08:55 AM, said:

 

https://wot-life.com/eu/serverstats/  - take a look at the tanks and sort them by win rate.  notice the other tanks in the list above the Obj252 and Defender?  Stop focusing on one stat and claiming that as your vistory point.  I have other tanks that fit above my average win rate.... they are an essential requirement that is necessary to calculate an average!  

 

Yes, you have other tanks that you have a higher winrate in. Most of them are tier five or lower. Then there's the Cromwell b and 3485m. Both tier 6 and by some claimed OP or arguably the best tier 6 tanks. And tier 8 is a much tougher tier to do well in than tier 5 and below. 

 

What other tanks did you consider you had that was above your average? 

 

You link doesn't work but you seem to link to server stats for the entire server. How is that in any way relevant?

 

The tank boosts pretty much everyones winrate substantially. It's as simple as that. 



arthurwellsley #29 Posted 25 January 2018 - 09:17 AM

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The whine about how OP the Defender/Object 252U only exists on the EU server.

On the RU server it is not regarded as OP (cynics might say that there is a reason for this).

WG only said that they might make the sale more rare on EU server (probably to keep the noise of the whine down) they specifically made no mention of not selling it regularly on the other servers.



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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 24 January 2018 - 10:33 PM, said:

Well, that's going to ruin tier 7 MM even further...

 

I thought T8 only ever sees T10?

ZlatanArKung #31 Posted 25 January 2018 - 09:19 AM

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View Posth4ctor, on 25 January 2018 - 08:06 AM, said:

 

it is a good tank,just not as OP as people claim

 

hopefully if they decide to sell it on EU it will be sometimes around my 6 years anniversary discount

It is OP.



ZlatanArKung #32 Posted 25 January 2018 - 09:23 AM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 25 January 2018 - 09:17 AM, said:

The whine about how OP the Defender/Object 252U only exists on the EU server.

On the RU server it is not regarded as OP (cynics might say that there is a reason for this).

WG only said that they might make the sale more rare on EU server (probably to keep the noise of the whine down) they specifically made no mention of not selling it regularly on the other servers.

What I remember from Leggasiini or exoduse trip to RU forum about Defender was that most thought it was to good/OP there aswell. But then a few existed who didn't think it was to good/OP. Kind of exactly like here.



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If it does come back in February it will only be because WG want to cash in before the new Soviet heavy tanks make it obsolete.

xtrem3x #34 Posted 25 January 2018 - 09:26 AM

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View PostZiurawka, on 24 January 2018 - 10:54 PM, said:

 

That exactly, though they will sell it eventually. And rig it to see only tier X matches ;)

 

It's already rigged to only see tier 10, that's why I rarely play mine

CornDaFlakes #35 Posted 25 January 2018 - 09:27 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 25 January 2018 - 08:02 AM, said:

 

"Yes it is" implies your opinion of the tank right? I said that i personally don't think it's a good tank to each his own.

 

Then your not a smart boy.

Condor1976 #36 Posted 25 January 2018 - 09:27 AM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 25 January 2018 - 09:19 AM, said:

It is OP.

 

Not when I drive it! Though that probably says more about me then the tank.... :amazed: :hiding:

shane73tank #37 Posted 25 January 2018 - 09:34 AM

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It’s a good moneymaker especially in t8 strongholds , I find the is3  gameplay boring but would not mind one of these for clan stuff , mind you if they balance the is6 ( remove pref mm I don’t care ) then I would be content  re Russian heavies 

CircleOfSorrow #38 Posted 25 January 2018 - 09:38 AM

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Did the Defender not just feature in a charity auction?  If so, selling it so soon afterward would be a hell of a way to piss in the winning bidders face.

Homer_J #39 Posted 25 January 2018 - 09:52 AM

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View PostExozen, on 24 January 2018 - 10:43 PM, said:

Doubt it comes to EU , NA servers are more or less dead , WG knows this and are constant milking them with these giftshop offers.

 

If you are willing to play the long game then buy it on the NA server and wait for the inevitable shutdown and transfer to other servers.

 

Mind you, you will then have it on the EU server under a different account.  Or probably the SEA server.



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View PostHomer_J, on 25 January 2018 - 08:52 AM, said:

 

If you are willing to play the long game then buy it on the NA server and wait for the inevitable shutdown and transfer to other servers.

 

Mind you, you will then have it on the EU server under a different account.  Or probably the SEA server.

 

I thought WG had been talking about opening a South American server (and we know from the old days that SerB liked some of the tanks Brazil made from the basic models of other nations).

 

Also the NA sale is Feb. 22-Mar. 5 which slightly surprises, as the 9.22 patch is due in the beginning of February 2018 and thats when the new USSR heaves are introduced and so that would be better timing to have a USSR heavy crew trainer on sale at patch time wouldn't it?







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