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RamRaid90 #21 Posted 29 January 2018 - 10:47 AM

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View Postares354, on 29 January 2018 - 01:04 AM, said:

 

You dont tell people about ONE VERY BIG weakspot of that tank. ENGINE is in front, and no good armor cover it. As it is with Lowe, STA can lose engine very easy. FOR MT its tragic. 

"agility" - this tank dont have one. Russian MT have it, this dont. You wonna good turret and high pen on tier 8 MT, go Centurion 1. you wonna fast MT, go T44. STA 1 is jack of all trades, and is good at nothing. I played this tanks, 2 moe. Its was fun, but tank is so-so. Type 61 is worse by far. 

 

32 shells with 105 gun. Type 61 is most painfull grind I have for long time in this game. 

 

Type 61 is one of the best medium tanks at tier IX. As well as by far the best looking tank.

Shut_The_Foch_Up #22 Posted 29 January 2018 - 01:19 PM

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So...you want to buff the gun handling on the tier 8 and the aim time...while THE GOD DAMN STB-1 THE TIER 10 MEDIUM TANKS HAS 2.3 AIM TIME AND ARTY LEVELS OF GUN HANDLING? sure...why not.

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View Postdimethylcadmium, on 27 January 2018 - 09:57 PM, said:

To prevent further armor powercreep, instead of buffing their armor, why not give STA-1/2 really good gun handling?

 

aim time 2s ----> 1.8s

dispersion 0.35 ----> 0.33

soft stats 0.15/0.15/0.10 -----> 0.12/0.12/0.10

 

They are the most poorly armored mediums along with the CDC, and CDC needs buffs as well. 

 

Even the free T25 Pilot is better than STA-1/2 :(

 

from left to right...sta-1, type 61 and stb-1...so you want it to go from already better gun handling than the tier 10 to way better gun handling than the tier 10...nice.

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View PostTheOneAboveAII, on 29 January 2018 - 01:28 PM, said:

 

from left to right...sta-1, type 61 and stb-1...so you want it to go from already better gun handling than the tier 10 to way better gun handling than the tier 10...nice.

 

The whole tank tree is underpowered and in need of buffs you dummy, all 3 tanks are weak.

 

Leopard and STB-1 line need to have godlike gun handling considering they have wet paper armor (compared to tanks like Patton, Soviet hovermeds with HT armor,CAX, 121....)

 

Look at 30B, soft stats 0.12/0.12/0.04, that's okay but buffing jap line is not okay?


Edited by dimethylcadmium, 29 January 2018 - 01:40 PM.


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List of my owned tier 8s in order of requiring buff

 

TVP VTU - Seriously in need of buff. 

STA-1

T25 Pilot

Centurion mk1

T44 - least in need of a buff.

 

And which one are WG buffing ? yeeeep, T44. :facepalm:

 

T44 is preferred, it's nimble good handling, great vision etc.

Cent/T25 are pretty good hull down and turrets will bounce some stuff. I can live with them quite happy.

STA-1 gun is good but a little troll, however, what lets it down as a ridge line poker is that the turret will bounce nothing at all. it also lacks the agility of T44 and the view range.

TVP - not much to say, it's big as a house, has no camo, no armour, poor vision, no gun depression. etc.

 


Edited by OneSock, 29 January 2018 - 01:55 PM.


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View Postdimethylcadmium, on 29 January 2018 - 01:35 PM, said:

 

The whole tank tree is underpowered and in need of buffs you dummy, all 3 tanks are weak.

 

Leopard and STB-1 line need to have godlike gun handling considering they have wet paper armor (compared to tanks like Patton, Soviet hovermeds with HT armor,CAX, 121....)

 

Look at 30B, soft stats 0.12/0.12/0.04, that's okay but buffing jap line is not okay?

Ofc they all need buff...my stb-1 still cries everytime it sees a patton or a 30b...but if buffed...buff them all...not just one.



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View PostTheOneAboveAII, on 29 January 2018 - 02:47 PM, said:

Ofc they all need buff...my stb-1 still cries everytime it sees a patton or a 30b...but if buffed...buff them all...not just one.

 

Literally all need buffs starting with giving Chi-To 100 more horsepower or 15% less terrain resistance

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View PostRamRaid90, on 29 January 2018 - 10:47 AM, said:

 

Type 61 is one of the best medium tanks at tier IX. As well as by far the best looking tank.

 

Was one of best, when Jap MT come to game. Now its pile of crap. Looking is personal taste.

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View Postdimethylcadmium, on 27 January 2018 - 10:23 PM, said:

View PostRamRaid90, on 27 January 2018 - 10:56 PM, said:

So you don't understand how to play a certain tank, and that means it needs a buff?

Lets list the good points:

 

  • Good gun handling
  • Great gun depression
  • Fairly Agile
  • Good view range

 

Now the bad points:

  • No armour.
  • Low top speed.

 

I don't know...it's almost like this tank is...whats the word.... BALANCED.

 

The STA, like the whole japanese medium line are support tanks.

 

They make up for their lack of armour and low speed with excellent guns, good view range and agility. Their view range allows them to play effectively at long range (able to spot their own targets) and the gun handling matches this play style perfectly.

 

Both STA-1 and STA-2 are worse than 59-Patton = name one thing they do better than it.

Being historical? :P

 

That said, Jap mediums, especially the higher tiers are in need of (handling) buffs.

And the OP is out of his mind for suggesting less gun depression on a Japanese tank; its one of the things that Jap tanks are good at at all tiers; along with handling at tiers 3-8, and penetration.



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Most of tier 8 230/240/250 alpha MTs have been and still are bad. People ree at the T-44-(100) buffs, which is understandable at first, but lets be honest - they still have 250 alpha with sub 200 pen and not that big DPM advantage over same tier HTs. I honestly think that the buffed T-44-(100) is what a proper tier 8 MT should be.

 

STA-1 is indeed lackluster and kinda needs a buff. To be fair, the entire Japanese MT line is very lackluster.



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View PostDutchyKnight, on 27 January 2018 - 10:24 PM, said:

 

but then still again, then it has loads of weakpoints. and what is the point of playing a worthless tank? its no fun to play, it will take many weeks of grinding 

If you want a tank with turret armour, play Pershing or Cent 1.

STA-1 is a tank without. But that have other good stuff as compensation. Currently only better dpm.

 

The tanks should get buffed, but not in turret armour.

Just give it 200 better base dpm or something and then better aim time etc and gun handling and slightly better mobility. 

 



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Yes I must agree the STA 1 needs an overhaul.

I played through to tier 10 on the Japanese meds and honestly I think this is the worst in the line.

 

It looks kind of cool though. I just couldn't get on with it.

 

It's made of crew death and ammo rack.

 

The tier 9-10 are much better.



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View Postleggasiini, on 29 January 2018 - 06:03 PM, said:

Most of tier 8 230/240/250 alpha MTs have been and still are bad. People ree at the T-44-(100) buffs, which is understandable at first, but lets be honest - they still have 250 alpha with sub 200 pen and not that big DPM advantage over same tier HTs. I honestly think that the buffed T-44-(100) is what a proper tier 8 MT should be.

 

STA-1 is indeed lackluster and kinda needs a buff. To be fair, the entire Japanese MT line is very lackluster.

 

Buffing the T-44s isn't a problem, the problem is they don't buff the other mediums

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View Postdimethylcadmium, on 29 January 2018 - 07:14 PM, said:

 

Buffing the T-44s isn't a problem, the problem is they don't buff the other mediums

 

 

 

 

Problem is not a problem.

The problem is what they are doing about the problem.

 



adameitas #35 Posted 30 January 2018 - 12:48 PM

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lol how da hell can tank have "too much" of gun depression?:) Atm all t8 meds needs buff, maybe only 416 dont bc of that HEAT. Atm i dont think sta-1 is bad nor good simply somewhere in the middle probably we can call it balanced i guess.

Simeon85 #36 Posted 30 January 2018 - 01:02 PM

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Take the T-44-100, with the 9.22 buffs, add +25% DPM. 

 

That is the level ALL tier 8 mediums should be at. 



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True.

LethalWalou #38 Posted 11 December 2018 - 04:18 AM

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View PostPanzerKFeldherrnhalle, on 11 December 2018 - 01:26 AM, said:

True.

 

Just curious mate, but did you just come back to some old tab you had open for a long time. You've been busy on necroing so many threads from start of the year. :D Care to lay it off and focus on the current threads? ;)





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