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SoupFork #1 Posted 29 January 2018 - 10:41 AM

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I’ve posted this first in the correct section but that thread seems to be dead so:

 

Isn't the base color of the Type 64 wrong?

 

Right now, it has the same icky puke-green base color as all the Chinese tonks. Seems logical, right?

But the Type 64 was a Frankensteinian concoction consisting of a Duster hull and a Hellcat turret, both obtained by Taiwan from the USA.

Therefore the base color should be dark olive drab like all US tanks. You can even see this on the historical photos on the wiki.

 

I therefore move that we start a campaign to give this little beauty the color she rightly deserves and gets rid of the icky green. 

 

Anyone got any historical info proving me right or wrong?

 



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You probably want cammo on your premium tonk, so who cares bout base paint.

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View PostOreH75, on 29 January 2018 - 10:43 AM, said:

You probably want cammo on your premium tonk, so who cares bout base paint.

 

It matters because quite a number of the Chinese camo patterns are transparent, meaning you’ll still see the base color even if you apply camo.

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Logically, any country buying a vehicle from the manufactoring country, whether in parts to make a concoction or as a whole, would order the vehicle in the colour their military wants, or would repaint once delivered. So the Type-64 would have appeared in the correct colour for the Chinese military. If that is the yucky green then thats is what it would have been.

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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 29 January 2018 - 11:12 AM, said:

Logically, any country buying a vehicle from the manufactoring country, whether in parts to make a concoction or as a whole, would order the vehicle in the colour their military wants, or would repaint once delivered. So the Type-64 would have appeared in the correct colour for the Chinese military. If that is the yucky green then thats is what it would have been.

 

No, because Taiwan was at that time trying to break away from China to become independent , so why would they go and paint their tanks in Chinese colors... Also, as I wrote, the historical photos show it was dark olive green in color.

Edited by SoupFork, 29 January 2018 - 11:19 AM.


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http://wiki.gcdn.co/images/e/e3/Type64photo3.jpg

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View PostSoupFork, on 29 January 2018 - 10:41 AM, said:

I’ve posted this first in the correct section but that thread seems to be dead so:

 

Isn't the base color of the Type 64 wrong?

 

Right now, it has the same icky puke-green base color as all the Chinese tonks. Seems logical, right?

But the Type 64 was a Frankensteinian concoction consisting of a Duster hull and a Hellcat turret, both obtained by Taiwan from the USA.

Therefore the base color should be dark olive drab like all US tanks. You can even see this on the historical photos on the wiki.

 

I therefore move that we start a campaign to give this little beauty the color she rightly deserves and gets rid of the icky green. 

 

Anyone got any historical info proving me right or wrong?

 

And I guess the taiwanese/Chinese guys was completely unable to paint their tank...



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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 29 January 2018 - 11:12 AM, said:

Logically, any country buying a vehicle from the manufactoring country, whether in parts to make a concoction or as a whole, would order the vehicle in the colour their military wants, or would repaint once delivered. So the Type-64 would have appeared in the correct colour for the Chinese military. If that is the yucky green then thats is what it would have been.

 

This!:great:

 

OP leave my 64 alone! ty.:angry:



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View PostSoupFork, on 29 January 2018 - 10:21 AM, said:

 

Shiny.

 

It's not hard to make a "mod" that changes the base colour. Simple matter of extracting the relevant files from C:\Games\World_of_Tanks\res\packages\vehicles_level_06.pkg and changing the colours in Paint.net. Might need a bit of work due to overlays and whatnot.

Took me literally two minutes to make my Blackdog darker, for instance. However, you'd have to care enough to find the real base colour (I can't be arsed) - and it's still the small matter of a ROC tank using PRC camo patterns.



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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 29 January 2018 - 10:12 AM, said:

Logically, any country buying a vehicle from the manufactoring country, whether in parts to make a concoction or as a whole, would order the vehicle in the colour their military wants, or would repaint once delivered. So the Type-64 would have appeared in the correct colour for the Chinese military. If that is the yucky green then thats is what it would have been.

 

In the long run, yes. But in field conditions paint can quickly become a luxury. The main considerations would be detection and recognition.

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View PostAikl, on 29 January 2018 - 11:41 AM, said:

 

- and it's still the small matter of a ROC tank using PRC camo patterns.

 

I was looking into the Panther/M10 and apparently that was in game for years with German camo until they realized it was wrong in the spirit of the project and gave it US camo patterns. 

 

That Taiwan Marines camo would look awesome on the Type 64 though...


Edited by SoupFork, 29 January 2018 - 11:54 AM.


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Base color is separated on a shared nation color. Not a tank to tank color on sub nations. As then more then one tank needs a change if you want to be that picky. And yes the ROC uses a different green on most of their CM tanks today even, vs what China has now in the game. But considering this is the first post complaining about it. I suspect not many cares or are to bothered about it. And when paint comes to tier 6 premiums. You can change it to your liking and use US paint on it. So WG will care even less if they do that. As then you can do it on your own.

 

 

 

View PostSoupFork, on 29 January 2018 - 11:53 AM, said:

I was looking into the Panther/M10 and apparently that was in game for years with German camo until they realized it was wrong in the spirit of the project and gave it US camo patterns.

 

It was not years, it was more like a week or two. As that change was planned even before it was released. Just added on the next patch iirc. But then again it was not because the M10 was a US tank or was part of a nation that was using US colors. It was trying to impersonate a US tank out of deception. Slight difference. Thus you can use US camo on it even. Something the Type can't do either. So then they need to change more then just the paint if you want to be more accurate. As the ROC have never used Chinese pattens as far as I know.


Edited by Balc0ra, 29 January 2018 - 12:04 PM.


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View PostSoupFork, on 29 January 2018 - 10:53 AM, said:

 

I was looking into the Panther/M10 and apparently that was in game for years with German camo until they realized it was wrong in the spirit of the project and gave it US camo patterns. 

 

That Taiwan Marines camo would look awesome on the Type 64 though...

 

German camo on a tank supposed to look like a US tank would quickly defeat its purpose, at least from a historical point of view. Unless someone at WG thought it would have been really clever to make a tank look like a US tank and give it German camo so that the Americans would think it's one of their own M10's cleverly made to look like a Panther for some fancy OSS operation and think it best not to interfere...:P

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View PostSoupFork, on 29 January 2018 - 10:41 AM, said:

Isn't the base color of the Type 64 wrong?

 

Yes but it's something WG have always been a bit hit and miss with.  I.E the T-55A has Russian base instead of the proper East German base, but the Soviet Matilda/Valentine/Churchills have the correct Soviet base instead of British base.

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View PostBalc0ra, on 29 January 2018 - 11:57 AM, said:

It was not years, it was more like a week or two.

 

Panther M10 was introduced in November 2011 in patch 8.1

It had german base color and camo until the end of October 2013.

So nearly 2 yearss, not 'a week or two',

I do my research before i post...



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View PostBrowarszky, on 29 January 2018 - 11:58 AM, said:

 

German camo on a tank supposed to look like a US tank would quickly defeat its purpose, at least from a historical point of view. Unless someone at WG thought it would have been really clever to make a tank look like a US tank and give it German camo so that the Americans would think it's one of their own M10's cleverly made to look like a Panther for some fancy OSS operation and think it best not to interfere...:P

 

I see this as a movie starring Nicholas Cage as the tormented German SS officer in charge of camouflage patterns.

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View PostSoupFork, on 29 January 2018 - 11:32 AM, said:

 

Panther M10 was introduced in November 2011 in patch 8.1

It had german base color and camo until the end of October 2013.

So nearly 2 yearss, not 'a week or two',

I do my research before i post...

 

It was introduced before type59? 

Doubt.



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View PostCarantanien, on 29 January 2018 - 12:41 PM, said:

 

It was introduced before type59? 

Doubt.

You're right (and wrong). it wasn't 8.1, it was 8.0, typo on my end.

https://worldoftanks...0-update-notes/

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View PostSoupFork, on 29 January 2018 - 11:19 AM, said:

 

No, because Taiwan was at that time trying to break away from China to become independent , so why would they go and paint their tanks in Chinese colors... Also, as I wrote, the historical photos show it was dark olive green in color.

 

Ok, I concede the point of the paint job, that is obviously WG trying to fit a tank into the Chinese tree.

 

At the time the Type 64 was developed, Tiawan had already been established and was supported, almost solely, by USA. The ROC were defeated on mainland China in 1949 and the type was developed in 1975. 



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Soup fork.

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