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magnus417 #1 Posted 29 January 2018 - 01:30 PM

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Hi All, I am after some help and advice in trying to complete spg 15 with honors for the t55.  I am after the orders back so I will have 12 in total to allow me to get the obj 260 a tad easier.

I am not an arty player and when I try and play it I am dreadful!  I have even installed XVM to allow me to see the good players in arty and at least try and see where they are going at the start of matches and where they are shooting.

I have an obj 261, lorr 155 51, bertie and the t7 british one.

 

I tried over the weekend and came close a few times to getting it.  Annoying I got all the requirements on one of the previous missions!

 

Thanks in advance for any help (above stop playing clciker ;-) )

 

Magnus

 

Update I have no completed the mission with honours.  A big thank you to everyone who gave help and advice. 

http://wotreplays.eu...gnus417-m53_m55

Replay if anyone is interested.


Edited by magnus417, 14 February 2018 - 12:09 PM.


TheOneAboveAII #2 Posted 29 January 2018 - 01:36 PM

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Well...you need to be top xp, win and 3k dmg...well...either get a stupidly good game in the 261...or a very good game in lorr 155 51...the thing is...you need to be top xp...which would be easier in the tier 8 arty...but you also need to do 3k damage which with that 155mm gun...not gonna happen that easy and it's easier with the 261...my suggestion...play the 155 51 and hunt bush kemping light tanks...or...get the M40/M43...mount the big 203mm...and play it until you get it done...tier 8 arty with a big gun...xp and dmg easy.

magnus417 #3 Posted 29 January 2018 - 01:48 PM

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View PostTheOneAboveAII, on 29 January 2018 - 12:36 PM, said:

Well...you need to be top xp, win and 3k dmg...well...either get a stupidly good game in the 261...or a very good game in lorr 155 51...the thing is...you need to be top xp...which would be easier in the tier 8 arty...but you also need to do 3k damage which with that 155mm gun...not gonna happen that easy and it's easier with the 261...my suggestion...play the 155 51 and hunt bush kemping light tanks...or...get the M40/M43...mount the big 203mm...and play it until you get it done...tier 8 arty with a big gun...xp and dmg easy.

 

Thanks for taking the time to post.  I assumed that getting one of the bigger guns in the game would be the way to go.  I will take a look and see the best way to get to that tank.  I assume going back to the T8 russian one will not work.  I unlocked that line via the KV over 5 years ago so cant even remember what tanks are in apart from the t51.

 

Thanks

 

Magnus



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DA_ZOHAN #5 Posted 29 January 2018 - 01:52 PM

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Of the SPG's you listed, your best chance is the 261.

the lor. just doesn't have the MM or the punch to do 3k damage, while it does have the ROF to deal out pain.

 

The trouble is that being top on team in a tier 10 SPG is very difficult.

Your best chance, is to deal damage to unspotted tanks.  Gamble on known TD camping spots, and pump some HE into those bushes.  That way, if you are successful in hitting them, they will instinctively move and get spotted while they stunned, and you wont share XP on the damaging shots.  Of course, this means that you are all or nothing on those games.  But that 1 in 15-20 games could happen where u get lucky.



DA_ZOHAN #6 Posted 29 January 2018 - 01:56 PM

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I got my SPG missions before the changes to SPG's, and my SPG15's for T55 and 260 were exactly like this.  

I 1 shotted 3 T10 TD's with AP from T92 in bushes, plus some splash shots that gave me assisted damage while the enemy tanks were de-tracked.

 

Gores+ High Caliber with 6432 damage in T92 was SPG15/260 for me.



Wintermute_1 #7 Posted 29 January 2018 - 02:13 PM

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You won't achieve this mission with honours unless its a long game, it just takes too long to reload. The Obj 261 has 18 shots which limits you a bit in a long game the Lorr has 10 more so that is probably your best bet, that plus the XP bonus for playing as a lower tier tank in a higher tier game ideally. 

 

You are also waiting for an open map with choke points, Prok, Malinovka are probably your best bet. Any map with big built up areas will be near impossible to finish top.

 

You know where the enemy is likely to show up first, pre aim at that area, fire when they do, then immediately reposition in relation to where your team is (basically staying behind the bulk of the team - this is attempting to stay alive for as long as possible). Its a balance between staying safe and getting off as many shots as possible, so when you reposition stop when your reload counter is at about 10s and aim again, fire, repeat etc.

 

When your team is not firing at your target, fire directly at the enemy. When ally players are firing at a group of enemy fire to cover as many of the enemy with your splash radius. Its better to get half the XP from 3 allied shots (especially if theres a type 5 or Jgpz E100 in there) than full XP from one of your own.

 

Other than that just focus on the regular map bottlenecks, you'll do it sooner or later.

 

Edit: just read the above comments and yeah it will be harder to get 3k dam in the lorr than the Obj but it'll prob be easier to finish top in the Lorr. If you do go with the Obj you may want to measure your shots more carefully. atb

 

 


Edited by Wintermute_1, 29 January 2018 - 02:18 PM.


magnus417 #8 Posted 29 January 2018 - 02:19 PM

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Thanks all again for the replies.  I guess I will just pick up a big gun US spg.

Edited by magnus417, 29 January 2018 - 02:21 PM.


Jumping_Turtle #9 Posted 29 January 2018 - 02:21 PM

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Since you have the 261 I would suggest to rebuy the T8 SU-14-2 and do it with that. With the current mm you will end up in T9 and T10 battles enough so one very good match with over 3k damage will almost give you top xp most of the times since you will be shooting at higher tiers a lot.

magnus417 #10 Posted 29 January 2018 - 02:24 PM

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 29 January 2018 - 01:21 PM, said:

Since you have the 261 I would suggest to rebuy the T8 SU-14-2 and do it with that. With the current mm you will end up in T9 and T10 battles enough so one very good match with over 3k damage will almost give you top xp most of the times since you will be shooting at higher tiers a lot.

 

Thanks I will take a look at that first rather than drop a whole load of free xp on the US ones first.

Jumping_Turtle #11 Posted 29 January 2018 - 02:30 PM

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View Postmagnus417, on 29 January 2018 - 02:24 PM, said:

 

Thanks I will take a look at that first rather than drop a whole load of free xp on the US ones first.

 

Here is mine for the 260. Also doen with the SU-14-2.

 

http://wotreplays.eu..._turtle-su-14-2



xtrem3x #12 Posted 29 January 2018 - 02:52 PM

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Just play some tier 8/9/10 arty and it will happen accidentally sometimes.

Jumping_Turtle #13 Posted 29 January 2018 - 02:56 PM

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View Postxtram3x, on 29 January 2018 - 02:52 PM, said:

Just play some tier 8/9/10 arty and it will happen accidentally sometimes.

 

Tier 10 will be very hard to be top on XP. You are shooting at lower tier tanks and if it is a tier 10 battle the chance of someone doing better is very high.

See this replay from me in the 261.

http://wotreplays.eu...rtle-object_261

 

9 kills and 4450 damage and still not first on XP.



Aikl #14 Posted 29 January 2018 - 03:05 PM

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Here's a full recipe for SPG-15, as (ab)used and recommended by 7/5 Madmen.

Spoiler

 


Edited by Aikl, 29 January 2018 - 03:05 PM.


samuelx43a #15 Posted 29 January 2018 - 03:31 PM

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My fav arty and prolly the best VIII spg imo and I'd heavily reccomend getting it. 

Like the above peeps said, try always going for groups of 2+ enemies as to get double stun.

VIII spgs have a higher likelihood of getting more XP than a tier X spg.

 

All in all, good luck with the missions!



magnus417 #16 Posted 29 January 2018 - 03:40 PM

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 29 January 2018 - 01:30 PM, said:

 

Here is mine for the 260. Also doen with the SU-14-2.

 

http://wotreplays.eu..._turtle-su-14-2

Thanks for taking the time to post this replay.  Sadly it won't play due to different game versions.

View PostAikl, on 29 January 2018 - 02:05 PM, said:

Here's a full recipe for SPG-15, as (ab)used and recommended by 7/5 Madmen.

Spoiler

 

 

I am well aware of this tried and approved of  method .  I tried most of the weekend.  5 bottles of wine and half a bottle each of vodka and brandy  were  consumed with no positive outcome!  

Edited by magnus417, 29 January 2018 - 03:43 PM.


magnus417 #17 Posted 29 January 2018 - 03:42 PM

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Well it seems that as I unlocked the 261 so long ago I don't actually have the t8 unlocked/ researched.  So the question is which is better the t8 RU or US?

Mav75 #18 Posted 29 January 2018 - 04:10 PM

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I've been getting top team xp with the M40/M43, but I haven't managed to get the needed numbers (falling few hundred short).

 

The M40/M43 has 36 degree gun arc compared to the Soviet 8 degrees. 

 

https://tanks.gg/compare/m40m43?e=24.25.6&t=su-14-2___19.24.25



Lovsan #19 Posted 29 January 2018 - 04:35 PM

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it seems superhard to get both done, if i get lots of dmg done, im not usually getting the assist dmg :/ few times i been close, with gw panther and m40/43. debating if i should try the bigger guns, the reload times are just so much higher :/

 

also spam that T key when you are shooting the enemy, might be annoying to some people but ive found it quite usefull



magnus417 #20 Posted 29 January 2018 - 04:51 PM

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It is going to cost around 100k more free xp to get the m40 over the su14.  Its a pity the s51 is so slow firing!

 

Is it worth the extra xp over the su14?

 

I also have my 261 crew that can go in it.


Edited by magnus417, 29 January 2018 - 04:55 PM.





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