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Kovac_89 #1 Posted 31 January 2018 - 01:57 AM

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WG pls balance OP premium lights like: Type 64, Type 62, AMX 17 57 and Blackdog by giving these tanks old MM for scouts! All of these lights have better firepower an view range than regular tanks! its not funy any more! 

Strizi #2 Posted 31 January 2018 - 02:02 AM

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View PostKovac_89, on 31 January 2018 - 01:57 AM, said:

WG pls balance OP premium lights like: Type 64, Type 62, AMX 17 57 and Blackdog by giving these tanks old MM for scouts! All of these lights have better firepower an view range than regular tanks! its not funy any more! 

 

Why are your type 64 stats so glorious then? It would make more sense for the techtree lights to be buffed a bit.

Kovac_89 #3 Posted 31 January 2018 - 02:15 AM

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View PostStrizi, on 31 January 2018 - 02:02 AM, said:

 

Why are your type 64 stats so glorious then? It would make more sense for the techtree lights to be buffed a bit.

 

Cause i bought this tank 2 years ago and dont play it any more! Grinding russian med. line before 9.22!!! But these tanks are  OP!!! And im sorry if u like tanks Op like this. I see u like ur Blackdog and Defender so ur upset, sry bro!

Strizi #4 Posted 31 January 2018 - 02:36 AM

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View PostKovac_89, on 31 January 2018 - 02:15 AM, said:

 

Cause i bought this tank 2 years ago and dont play it any more! Grinding russian med. line before 9.22!!! But these tanks are  OP!!! And im sorry if u like tanks Op like this. I see u like ur Blackdog and Defender so ur upset, sry bro!

 

Of course i am upset, dont you feel the rage in my writing i can hardly control myself. I will go Supersaiyan soon man.

Kovac_89 #5 Posted 31 January 2018 - 02:42 AM

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View PostStrizi, on 31 January 2018 - 02:36 AM, said:

 

Of course i am upset, dont you feel the rage in my writing i can hardly control myself. I will go Supersaiyan soon man.

 

Good for u Vegeta!!!

Darky1029 #6 Posted 31 January 2018 - 10:54 AM

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type 64 gets yellow if a pz I C hits it once, but have to agree one the other ones, they are super strong for the tier.
m41 90 GF is just a t49 with the 90mm with less hitpoints.
And I love playing them :D.
The thing with these lights thou, they are only OP in the hands of good drivers, just like any other tank in fact, but when a moron drives them, they just insta die - they are fragile creatures those lights.

 

Honestly, they should rebalance the whole game, at every tier there is something broken. m2 lights stomping the low tiers, pz 38H at t3.
Škoda t24 is a [edited]garbage can with the same amount of DPM as the leichtractor at t1.
T71 DA at t7 is sometimes more OP than the amx 13 57 and is stronger than the t8 bchat 12t.
The Chinese tanks compared to russian ones are almost always waaaay worse and not viable.
But hey, Edited.

 


This post has been edited by the moderation team due to swearing. 

But hey, wg doesnt care*


Edited by Darky1029, 31 January 2018 - 02:30 PM.


T_H_F #7 Posted 31 January 2018 - 11:26 AM

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Got 1357, fun machine to run,,, op,,, not in current meta,, and remember, you are low tier most game you run in..but its still fun even as low tier..

Aikl #8 Posted 31 January 2018 - 12:04 PM

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No doubt they're overperforming, looking at e.g. tank curves and the like. Not just for good players either, though it's certainly more pronounced:

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They are all doing well, reasons which might stem from the overall quality of other light tanks as well as the skill level of most light tank players. It might not be particularly good for the game, but I'll take an overperforming light tank over an overperforming heavy any day of the week. I like playing the Blackdog. Many others do too, apparently - but it's hardly a tank that I remember ruining my games because it's overpowered.

 

For what it's worth, almost every premium tank overperforms at least a percent compared to its peers - which is not that surprising. Consider that many have good crews, several hundred games of experience playing them and are better equipped than your average T6/7/8 LT-grinding Steve.


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cragarion #9 Posted 31 January 2018 - 12:09 PM

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View PostKovac_89, on 31 January 2018 - 01:57 AM, said:

WG pls balance OP premium lights like: Type 64, Type 62, AMX 17 57 and Blackdog by giving these tanks old MM for scouts! All of these lights have better firepower an view range than regular tanks! its not funy any more! 

 

Yes best idea ever bring back the old preferential MM for premium lights :) WooHooo

Dava_117 #10 Posted 31 January 2018 - 12:14 PM

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Anything without armour can't really be considered OP...

But I agree with those who ask for a slight buff to standard LT. 



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View Postcragarion, on 31 January 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

 

Yes best idea ever bring back the old preferential MM for premium lights :) WooHooo

 

Thing is, that if the premium lights did keep the old scout MM when the change did come. I suspect not many would whine about it. As I would not mind it, as they were un-nerfed, and still the same as I was used to. But now that they have been given +2 MM. Scout MM would be a nerf if you will. Then there would be a rage storm if they did revert it. So it's to late for it. 

arthurwellsley #12 Posted 31 January 2018 - 01:38 PM

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View PostKovac_89, on 31 January 2018 - 12:57 AM, said:

WG pls balance OP premium lights like: Type 64, Type 62, AMX 17 57 and Blackdog by giving these tanks old MM for scouts! All of these lights have better firepower an view range than regular tanks! its not funy any more! 

 

Interesting point of view. I own all four. I enjoy playing light tanks. I bought the T92 as well despite knowing it was not as good.

Type 64 - benefitted enormously from the move to +2 and ability to mount vert stab. However as mentioned above it is very fragile especially to HE (cf pzkw IV H or a Jap heavy)

Type 62 - does not really fit the OP characteristics as it is actually a stock WZ 131, so the odd one out of the four. Definitely not OP.

M41 90 GF - not really a scout. Too big, and in particular too tall. But as a fast medium damage dealer, yes it can make and break matches by itself. The nearest to OP of the four.

AMX 13 57 GF - when I bought it and no ability to mount vert stab, and seeing tier X, it was deeply underwhelming. Now it can mount vert stab and has only +2 MM it is alot of fun. Less OP maybe than the M41 Blackdog, but fun nonetheless.

 

The point made above is that the present tech tree light tanks need a buff. It is not that the premiums need a nerf (the type 62 is a stock version of the same tech tree tank). A little bit more view range would help most tech tree lights enormously.






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