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MyArmorIsGolden #1 Posted 01 February 2018 - 11:31 AM

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front hull is so weak in its own tier.

Archaean #2 Posted 01 February 2018 - 11:36 AM

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View PostMyArmorIsGolden, on 01 February 2018 - 11:31 AM, said:

front hull is so weak in its own tier.

 

Because of its turret.

UrQuan #3 Posted 01 February 2018 - 11:37 AM

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The turret armor is strong, the hull armor is not really special. Fairly okay when used head-on. But at the same time, it has a pikenose, so any form of angling turns the front into butter. 

 

IS-3 main strengths come from the gun, coupled with the mobility & turret armor. Hull isn't exactly part of it (but that side-armor is so trollish)


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MyArmorIsGolden #4 Posted 01 February 2018 - 11:42 AM

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View PostArchaean, on 01 February 2018 - 11:36 AM, said:

 

Because of its turret.

 

*cough* overmatch *cough*

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SyJoMa #6 Posted 01 February 2018 - 11:50 AM

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View PostMyArmorIsGolden, on 01 February 2018 - 11:42 AM, said:

 

*cough* overmatch *cough*

 

Yeaaa, well last time I abused that roof was in a 3v3 tournament where IS3 was capping in Lakeville and our team pinned him down so that he couldnt move an inch. Thats 1-2 years ago... I dont find find too many occasons where a hulldown IS3 is sitting completely still, letting me shoot his roof weakpoint. And even then in most scenarios we would be trading shots, which means that if in Tiger2 for example, I will be maybe giving 320 dmg for every 390 I recieve.

Edited by SyJoMa, 01 February 2018 - 11:51 AM.


Enforcer1975 #7 Posted 01 February 2018 - 11:51 AM

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View PostMyArmorIsGolden, on 01 February 2018 - 11:42 AM, said:

 

*cough* overmatch *cough*

 

T29, T30 and T34 say hello...

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The sides still have black holes in them that make the occasional German 128mm AP shell disappear completely. And the turret is strong, unless someone gets to shoot down on it, then a KV-2 can pen it (did it once, magical moment lol).

logaritmusnaturalis #9 Posted 01 February 2018 - 11:57 AM

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The reason I love IS3 and would pick it over defender anyday is because of its gunhandling, absolutely amazing gunhandling, it blew my mind when I had researched the top gun. 

Bora_BOOM #10 Posted 01 February 2018 - 11:59 AM

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View PostMyArmorIsGolden, on 01 February 2018 - 10:31 AM, said:

front hull is so weak in its own tier.

 

A guy stands next to a bar table with lots of lines drawn on it.

- What are those?

- We pull out our male parts on and put a line where the end is.

So he does the same, and his line is far ahead all the lines that where already there.

- "Look!" he points his finger at his line with a smile on his face.

- Right, dude... But you are on the wrong side of the table!

 

So, OP, you measure IS-3 against...?


Edited by Bora_BOOM, 01 February 2018 - 12:05 PM.


TheOneAboveAII #11 Posted 01 February 2018 - 12:28 PM

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So...you want to buff it? Cool...let me just call Murazor, I'm sure he'll be more than happy to make IS-3 OP.

Enforcer1975 #12 Posted 01 February 2018 - 01:20 PM

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View PostMyArmorIsGolden, on 01 February 2018 - 11:31 AM, said:

front hull is so weak in its own tier.

 

Back then when we didn't have a flood of broken and high pen tanks in high tiers there were not many guns who could get through reliably especially not lower tiers except TDs. 

Archaean #13 Posted 01 February 2018 - 01:25 PM

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View PostMyArmorIsGolden, on 01 February 2018 - 11:42 AM, said:

 

*cough* overmatch *cough*

 

Overmatch? As if it's that easy. Sure, it's fairly easy to aim at a stationary IS-3 and try to hit its roof, but please tell me, how do you do that if the enemy is-3 is moving its turret and slightly driving up some rubble to decrease the damagable zone?

 

IS-3 is fairly strong and nothing will change that fact.



Dex022 #14 Posted 01 February 2018 - 01:36 PM

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IS3 has black hole side armor where ANY slightly off shot results in 0 dmg critical and that is his biggest plus cause it is so forgiving for bots that drive sideways and rng gifts them god like mode on sides.

Should i mention gun dispersion that is just slightly worse then Leo1 and actually same when turning turret cause rashaaa da balance.



Dava_117 #15 Posted 01 February 2018 - 01:44 PM

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In my personal experience, IS-3 armour rely too much on RNG. Add to this -5 gun depression, 35Km/h of top speed and a terribly inaccurate gun.

Not really a tank you can rely on when you're bottomtier or you need a real heavy. KV-4 is flat out better at heavy stuff, VK100 too. Even Caern, in a good hulldown position, can probably keep a chockepoint better than IS-3.


Edited by Dava_117, 01 February 2018 - 01:45 PM.


Uebergewicht #16 Posted 01 February 2018 - 02:03 PM

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The IS-3s armor is not that great when you can freely shoot at it, but it´s pretty darn effective when coupled with the mobility this tank has. It can reach favorable positions easily, and thanks to the quick movement plus great dispersion stats it needs minimal exposure to get shots off. Sure, if it just sits there, you wont have too much trouble, but with momentum the IS-3 can be really hard to crack and the angles on the hull can ward off some ridiculous shots while you move from A to B. It´s not a tank to sidescrape and trade with confidence all the time, like a KV-4, but it doesnt need to when it can maneuver so well and only needs the armor to cover it occasionally on the move. And yes, its pretty good hull down. Sure there is a weakspot on top, but that´s one not that easy to hit reliably unless the enemy gives it to you.

 

TLDR IS-3s is no superheavy, but armor is great for the mobility it has

 

 

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Not really a tank you can rely on when you're bottomtier or you need a real heavy.

 

Dude I´m rather in an IS-3 as bottom tier than in any "proper" heavy. Big heavies that rely on armor get penned anyway in tier 10 games, while the IS-3s mobility allows it many more options. 390 alpha is still respectable in tier 10 games, the turret is still no autopen for tier 10 guns, and the gun is only "inaccurate" when you sit still and snipe at range, it is pure bliss for whacking anything that pops up at medium and close range.

 


Edited by Uebergewicht, 01 February 2018 - 02:07 PM.


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Is 3 have good armor if you know how to use. You have 3 nice plates in front. If you see where enemy aims you can make that plate stronger with turning tank 

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View PostUebergewicht, on 01 February 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

Dude I´m rather in an IS-3 as bottom tier than in any "proper" heavy. Big heavies that rely on armor get penned anyway in tier 10 games, while the IS-3s mobility allows it many more options. 390 alpha is still respectable in tier 10 games, the turret is still no autopen for tier 10 guns, and the gun is only "inaccurate" when you sit still and snipe at range, it is pure bliss for whacking anything that pops up at medium and close range.

 

 

I got the exact opposit feeling. IS-3 looks completely powerless as bottomtier. You can play as med, but as soon as enemy load gold, you will get penned most of the times (except when RNG screw up enemy shot). You can't angle to block tier 10 gold, because it require such an angle that will present the other side of the peack almost flat. And most of tier 10 med has 390 alpha too, so you can't trade in a good way.

KV-4, and hence VK100 too, are far more reliable. You can still support the heavy, you can angle to reliably bounce gold, you can trade thanks to the armour, track enemys you can't deal with directly, spot for arty and TDs. I feel I can be relevant. And in fact most of my best game in KV-4 are tier 10 games.



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IS-3 is kinda weak compared to today's tier 8 HT.

 

All about this tank is RNG dependent. Weak hull, weak turret (if you are not complete noob), side armor RNG.

The gun is OK for close ranged battles, but then you have near 100% pen in the turret.

 

The good thing about this tanks is the power/weight ratio. It's not the fastest tank, but it reaches the top speed very quickly.

 

IS-3 is considered "GOOD" because it's noob proof, and here we go to the point where this tank is tier 8 and today's WOT players are not that bad.



ValkyrionX #20 Posted 01 February 2018 - 03:16 PM

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is3 is one of the best tier 8 ht , great gun and turret armor..good mobility and a decent frontal armor + spaced side armor ...stop whining 




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