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VinceHaze #1 Posted 02 February 2018 - 05:12 PM

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Hi there!

 

I think it would be a good improvement if the T34 gets a buff, I really think it should be balanced for the new tanks. Since the turret is just not how we knew it before. Inpenetrable..

 

If myself don't know any other premium tanks that are having the same problem.. Maybe you guys know some that also need a buff?

 

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Kirk_Helmet #2 Posted 02 February 2018 - 05:17 PM

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It's turret is now just as it was before. It has never been impenetrable in every situation. T34 rather has a problem with soft stats, and while some of them were already buffed this tank needs a good crew to be efficient. It also lacks DPM but I guess it is a balancing factor for it's penetration.

TheOneAboveAII #3 Posted 02 February 2018 - 05:27 PM

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T34 could use a buff....aim time down from 3.2 to 3 lets say...the soft stats down from 0.28 0.28 0.22 to 0.20 0.20 0.15...and maybe a rof of 4.5 instead of 4 would be ok...considering that this thing has cheese as hull and if it's not hulldown you can say goodbye to your HP in 3 seconds...and you have to wait 4 years to reload.



MeNoobTank #4 Posted 02 February 2018 - 05:34 PM

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Yes it needs a buff, either buff aim time, reload speed or engine power. Or maybe all 3.

Balc0ra #5 Posted 02 February 2018 - 05:40 PM

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Turret is just because more know about the weaker center line vs before if their pen is high enough.

 

As for buffs? A minor aim time buff, and a ROF buff would be welcome on it.



VsUK #6 Posted 02 February 2018 - 05:47 PM

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Could be a little faster with a little better reload speed. Used to grind this tank hard for credits. Just exposing its strong point, the turret to the enemy to fire. But now days, its penned by everything.

dimethylcadmium #7 Posted 02 February 2018 - 06:49 PM

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View PostVsUK, on 02 February 2018 - 05:47 PM, said:

Could be a little faster with a little better reload speed. Used to grind this tank hard for credits. Just exposing its strong point, the turret to the enemy to fire. But now days, its penned by everything.

 

turret cheeks will get penned by 340 heat

arthurwellsley #8 Posted 02 February 2018 - 07:14 PM

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I have owned the T34 since I got it for free when it was announed in April 2011 that if you owned it by March 2012 it would be transfered from tier X to a tier VIII premium. I owned the tier X at the correct time and so got the tier VIII premium for free.

 

In all those years the turret has never been impenetrable. The turret is fine as it is.

 

What now makes the T34 lacklustre is powercreep.

 

The Patriot has more dpm.

The Lowe (the 2011 contemporary of the T34, has had it's weak LFP buffed).

 

The weakest points of the T34 are aim and reload. The weakest points of the old Lowe were LFP and reload. For the Lowe only one got buffed. Applying the same logic the aim of the T34 should be buffed and then it will be balanced again. The Patriot will remain low alpha, high rof, and the T34 will be higher alpha and lower rof. Seems about right.



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View Postarthurwellsley, on 02 February 2018 - 07:14 PM, said:

I have owned the T34 since I got it for free when it was announed in April 2011 that if you owned it by March 2012 it would be transfered from tier X to a tier VIII premium. I owned the tier X at the correct time and so got the tier VIII premium for free.

 

In all those years the turret has never been impenetrable. The turret is fine as it is.

 

What now makes the T34 lacklustre is powercreep.

 

The Patriot has more dpm.

The Lowe (the 2011 contemporary of the T34, has had it's weak LFP buffed).

 

The weakest points of the T34 are aim and reload. The weakest points of the old Lowe were LFP and reload. For the Lowe only one got buffed. Applying the same logic the aim of the T34 should be buffed and then it will be balanced again. The Patriot will remain low alpha, high rof, and the T34 will be higher alpha and lower rof. Seems about right.

 

yeah, but still Patriot has better hull and and it is a faster tank. T34's hull can be penned by T6's. Patriot's hull is T8 + frontal plate.

So to be kind of balanced besides the aim time buff T34 needs a second buff to the reload time and it will be ok.



Gboor #10 Posted 02 February 2018 - 07:32 PM

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View Postdimethylcadmium, on 02 February 2018 - 06:49 PM, said:

 

turret cheeks will get penned by 340 heat

 

and mantlet needs only 279 to be penetrated, its completely useless against all tier 10s, 0 chance to ding if you dont hit gun by accident. TBH even Lowe has more reliable turret against tier 10s than t34. Wont even comment better hull, gun handling etc


Sure, patriot also got 279 mantlet, but its much more mobile and lightweight tank in comparison to t34, t34's mantlet should be like 350++ just because it is so sluggish and is not able to avoid any mantlet shot like patriot does



Yep, t34 is crap, its turret doesnt work for years, it has nothing to offer in front of patriot and lowe, buy Lowe if you need tank today


Edited by Gboor, 02 February 2018 - 07:38 PM.


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View PostGboor, on 02 February 2018 - 07:32 PM, said:

 

and mantlet needs only 279 to be penetrated, its completely useless against all tier 10s, 0 chance to ding if you dont hit gun by accident. TBH even Lowe has more reliable turret against tier 10s than t34. Wont even comment better hull, gun handling etc


Sure, patriot also got 279 mantlet, but its much more mobile and lightweight tank in comparison to t34, t34's mantlet should be like 350++ just because it is so sluggish and is not able to avoid any mantlet shot like patriot does



Yep, t34 is crap, its turret doesnt work for years, it has nothing to offer in front of patriot and lowe, buy Lowe if you need tank today

 

 

Patriot turret has some 200mm parts which will get penned easily if the Patriot player remains stationary. Penned it once near the turret ring with 212 pen on the STA-2.

 

IS-3 has the best turret at tier 8 if you can hide the roof.


Edited by dimethylcadmium, 02 February 2018 - 07:53 PM.


Toni112007 #12 Posted 02 February 2018 - 08:09 PM

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Id say increase alpha to like 440 would be nice.

Gboor #13 Posted 02 February 2018 - 08:21 PM

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View Postdimethylcadmium, on 02 February 2018 - 07:53 PM, said:

 

 

Patriot turret has some 200mm parts which will get penned easily if the Patriot player remains stationary. Penned it once near the turret ring with 212 pen on the STA-2.

 

IS-3 has the best turret at tier 8 if you can hide the roof.

 

So what? Just by comparing T34 to Lowe, Lowe has more reliable turret against tier10s, Lowe has better gun, Lowe has better hull armor.
T34 is worse Patriot - Sure, patriot got SLIGHTLY worse turret, but its much smaller and its very mobile. T34 is huge and sluggish, it should have ~~350+ mantlet to be able to do his job properly like it did years ago. At the moment for tier 10 even with gold its much harder to pen turret of Lowe than turret of T34, so what does T34 have to offer in front of Lowe? Different nation to train crew, nothing more.

Do not buy T34

Edited by Gboor, 02 February 2018 - 08:22 PM.


hasnainrakha57 #14 Posted 02 February 2018 - 08:27 PM

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In my opinion t34 is worst premium heavy reasons:

1)Worst heavy hull for its tier.

2)Too slow

3)Relode time is awaful

4)Aim time is horrible

5)Accuracy is horrible.

6)Worst dispersion values.

Good thing about it not rly good 50% good:

1) tough turret still worst then t32 beacuse roof and cupola of t34 is always pened by tier9 and 10s some time tier 8 also.

 

 

 

 

So i would say a extreme buff for t34 beacuse not on every map u can fight on ridge lines.And cannot snipe in this tank.



logaritmusnaturalis #15 Posted 02 February 2018 - 08:35 PM

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Needs mobility buffs BADLY. Gunhandling as well. Pile of trash crapnow.

predatorlord7 #16 Posted 23 June 2018 - 03:31 PM

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I buy this tank T34 

 



SovietBias #17 Posted 23 June 2018 - 04:09 PM

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View Postpredatorlord7, on 23 June 2018 - 02:31 PM, said:

I buy this tank T34 

 

 

The inanest first post necro I've ever seen.

suvicze #18 Posted 23 June 2018 - 05:26 PM

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T34 suffered the same horrible fate as T30 when they move it from T10 heavy to T9 td... T30 used to have amazing gun handling for 155mm gun + was very mobile with good turret/hull traverse (think pre-nerf E75 with 1200hp engine) and had way better dpm. If medium or light tank tried to circle it, it was pretty much suicide because it could easily hit them while traversing. Right now it cant do anything only thing it has is alpha with barely rotating turret.

 

T34 is the same. Used to be very mobile with great gun handling and dpm. I think it is still my only high tier tank with 11+ kills. When they turned it into T8 prem they completely ruined it. Mobility is pretty much half of what it was. Turret traverse was twice as good. Dpm was around 7 shots per minute now it is like a 4? Sure it is tier lower but still the overall stats went down too much. It traded absolutely everything to keep its penetration. It was workable when they transfered it. But after so many years it got so powercreeped that it is not even funny.

 

Aim time needs to go down to like 2,8s

Soft stats to 0.20, 0.20, 0.12

turret traverse 25, same as T32

dpm to 1850-1950

viewrange 390-400 it is tall af tank, 380 is way too low

and buff its terrain resistances by 25-30%

With all of this, it might actually be playable and even enjoyable again.



Pattonizer #19 Posted 23 June 2018 - 05:31 PM

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Or nerf everything else.




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