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Close-Range Freight Train: Introducing the Object 268 v.4


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Community #1 Posted 02 February 2018 - 05:28 PM

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Learn more about the new addition to the Soviet TD family

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Easha #2 Posted 02 February 2018 - 05:39 PM

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Learn more about respecting your community's feedback.

 

The full text of how unwanted your update is.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

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MickShagger #3 Posted 02 February 2018 - 05:46 PM

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How did the 263 not fit in the tier 10 position? I've never heard anyone complaining about that. WG have plenty other tanks that are more in need of a rebalance. Now you're just creating problems that actually never existed. 

_LEO_ #4 Posted 02 February 2018 - 05:48 PM

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Very nice, but when will you fix always bottom tier 3/5/7MM?

fredo_k #5 Posted 02 February 2018 - 05:57 PM

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Rubbish tank

Dunev #6 Posted 02 February 2018 - 06:00 PM

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DISGUSTING

Go [edited]yourself with 268.4.



DurkaDurka1 #7 Posted 02 February 2018 - 06:01 PM

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I still don't understand whats happening to the 263. It was double hard when it came out but got nurfed. most people gave up on the grind (Tier 7,8 and 9 = was awefull) too it as it wasn't worth it for the final result. 

 

All you had to do was reset it back to how it used be (Thicker gun mantel and the more gun traverse).

 

Oh well, This new one looks a complete waste of time, Too slow reload for such little damage, I'd be interested to know the number of these cashed in for credits after one battle once players receive it in the garage after the patch.

 

Looks like i'll be cashing mine in. With the changes of the 263, This looks like I'm to sell this also.

 

Seems strange to be replacing the 263 which they claim no one plays with something that it looks like no one is going to play due to Poor gun and poor turning circle.

 

WG claim to listen to the player base but this proves otherwise.



Dava_117 #8 Posted 02 February 2018 - 06:09 PM

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This tank is just stupid. Too much armour (just a gold magnet) that it's completely useless in brawling situation (want to see one of those turn a corner in a city map)!

Plus, as further dumbing down of the gameplay, you changed the sniper line into an assault one, while the 268 line, all made by historical assault gun, has now the role of sniper (wich doesn't fit the dispersion of those gun)!

Was so hard to leave the 263 line alone (as 2/3 of the EU and russian comunity asked) and buff mobility in 268 line, so you can actually brawl in it?



Bucifel #9 Posted 02 February 2018 - 06:27 PM

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still IMBECILE ARMOR WITHOUT RELEVANT WEAKPOINTS !!!

 

gj incompetents ! MORE P2W / GOLDSPAM !!

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Zhu_Bajie #10 Posted 02 February 2018 - 07:01 PM

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View PostEasha, on 02 February 2018 - 05:39 PM, said:

Learn more about respecting your community's feedback.

 

The full text of how unwanted your update is.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Easha

 

WG nobody wanted this... listen to your community for once damn it...

AnonCoder #11 Posted 02 February 2018 - 07:05 PM

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Whats the release date of patch

gunslingerXXX #12 Posted 02 February 2018 - 07:14 PM

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Watch out, superheavy tank incoming with 55 km/h!



az_zill #13 Posted 02 February 2018 - 07:28 PM

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It has arguably worse armor profile than 263 on tier 9(9.22). Upper frontal plate on this thing is a bizarre design. Its only 100 mm and it seems that devs think its ok because it is angled at 70 degrees. Problem is, because of height of many tanks you will meet, they will have easy shot on UFP from above. And even slight height difference is enough to negate autobounce angle completely(not to mention all HEAT flying around). Just compare that to almost impenetrable UFP on 263. Plus there is 250 mm view port on top while obj 263 gun shield weakspot is 260mm.

 

So it seems its just gonna be another instance of "get tier 9, don't bother with tier 10" just like with 268 line. Because in general it doesn't looks like you guys have good idea what too do with this line (why su-100m1 on tier 7 has better frontal armor than su-101 at tier 8?).

Also 14 sec reload for 650 alpha? Could you come up with more boring gun?


Edited by az_zill, 02 February 2018 - 09:02 PM.


SlayerVesa #14 Posted 02 February 2018 - 08:05 PM

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You don't listen your community. 

FelixJG #15 Posted 02 February 2018 - 08:43 PM

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Just give every Object 263 owner a tier 10 premium reward variant, then everybody is happy and you're actually listening to the feedback given to you the entire time this change has been announced. win/win

Phil0978 #16 Posted 02 February 2018 - 09:25 PM

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Dear WG,

 

As you are ALWAYS listening to your Community's feedback how about this? Just for giggles have a look at how many players have complained about moving the 263 and then compare it with how many players have welcomed your proposal. I will be happy to take a bet on the outcome.

 

You have mentioned that not many people play the 263 and reasoned that therefore it must be bad and so you will replace it. Have you thought that the tiers 7,8 and 9 of that line are so bad that many people don't continue the grind? The ONLY tank that made it worthwhile was the 263. Now you are wasting all the time, effort and resources that your players ploughed into that line to get a tier X that not many people had. The replacement seems inferior to the 263 in every way.

 

Please do not continue to condescend to your players by telling them you listen to them when it is blatantly apparent that you do not. I wait with bated breath for your response although I am perfectly sure that you will give this a good, stiff ignoring as you have every other post on this subject.



fighting_falcon93 #17 Posted 02 February 2018 - 09:36 PM

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Please don't move the Obj.263 to tier 9!

 

If you think that Obj.263 is consistent enough to sit on tier 9, I say it's total bullcrap that it needs to be moved in the first place. If you think that Obj.263 is too weak for tier 10, then buff it, but keep it at tier 10 and stop removing variety from the game!

 

Why can't you add the Obj.268V4 as an additional tier 10 TD instead?

 

Moving Obj.263 to tier 9 is a very, very bad change, mainly because:

 

  • Obj.263 is a unique vehicle of its class in tier 10 games. Not only does it offer unique gameplay compared to other tier 10 TDs, out of 11 TD branches currently in the game, only 4 of them has a tier 10 TD with an alpha below 600 damage. And with this change you want to change that 4 into a 3.
  • Obj.263 fits into the branch perfectly. It has low alpha compared to other TDs, just like the other tanks in the branch. It has good mobility and a rear mounted gun with bad gun depression, just like the other tanks in the branch. You even want to keep Obj.263 yourself in the branch, isn't that proof enough that the vehicle fits the branch? So why move it to tier 9? You started by removing tanks that didn't fit in other branches, now it seems you're editing branches left and right just because you can.
  • Obj.263 costs 692'710 xp to unlock, if we count the xp all the way from the start of the branch. Do you have atleast an idea of the amount of time a player has to put in to grind all that xp? And those players that decide which branch they want to grind depending on the tier 10, which tank do you think they wanted when they started the grind? Exactly, they wanted the Obj.263, not something else.

 

Let's see what you want this line to become:

 

Update 9.22 Preview—USSR Tree Revision

  • High forward and backward mobility combined with medium maneuverability, which lets them quickly reach and occupy key positions and retreat back to safety
  • Good frontal armor to deflect enemy shells, but weak side armor and lower front plates
  • Average damage per shot with a high reload time to compensate for mobility and protection
  • Accuracy and aiming time balanced to make them effective at short-to-medium range, but also reduce their effectiveness at long range
  • Poor elevation angles due to historical design

 

What you described above is exactly what the Obj.263 is, except it has a better gun. So you want to "fix" an unpopular line by making it even worse? Hello?!?!?!

 

Players have made it very clear that this is not what they want. Take a look in this thread at the Russian forum. That's currently 91 pages of discussion where players are very unhappy with this change. Take a look at this other thread at the Russian forum. That's currently 12 pages of discussion where players also are very unhappy with this change. Take a look around on your own European forum, how happy does players seem about this change? WG, if you proceed with this change, never ever dare to say that you listen to your players feedback again.

 

Instead, I have 2 other suggestions for you:

 

 

 

WG, you say that you listen to our feedback. Now is the time to prove that!

 

 

If you agree that Obj.263 should remain at tier 10 with either its current stats or buffed stats, please repost the image above to show your support. Don't forget how WG wanted to destroy the BatChat branch, and now they want to do it again with the Obj.263 branch. We managed to stop them then, and if we protest loud enough, we might be able to stop them again.

 

#KeepObj263AtTier10 :izmena: :izmena: :izmena:



Doigenunchi #18 Posted 02 February 2018 - 09:37 PM

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"We care about your oppinions" "We listen to you and we work in your interest" - we do this and we do that for you - BLA BLA BLA

 

You sound like my [edited]government. And do you know what we think of governments in general ? Should I spell it ?



IIAtomicToastII #19 Posted 02 February 2018 - 09:51 PM

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View PostDoireannBG, on 02 February 2018 - 06:05 PM, said:

Whats the release date of patch

 

Read the article

kariverson #20 Posted 03 February 2018 - 01:49 AM

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Maybe THE worst line remake you've done. Was 263 too balanced and uninteresting and you want people to free xp this line too? 
263 is the most balanced tank this this game. Personally one of the most fun too.






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