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Inconsiderate + Selfish Arty FF Gone Way Too Common. Ruining My Game, Please Stop!


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TungstenHitman #1 Posted 03 February 2018 - 10:00 PM

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Not sure if you guys are suffering this as much as me lately and normally I don't mind the odd splash damage and accidental FF here and there but over the last couple of weeks I have been getting wrecked by teammate artillery with increasing regularity and it's actually starting to p*** me off and ruining my game.

 

I'm not talking about the odd rare splash damage or shots I drove onto myself or accidental FF, no I'm talking about players that don't give a toss about what friendlies they hit and selfishly and knowingly drop a nuke on both enemy and friendly just to get some damage or kill or whatever. I played arty for two sets of missions, long enough to know the difference and know what can be avoided and when a teammate arty is just being total dik and like I said, this arty FF is growing in regularity and it's starting to really ruin my game since there is apparently no consequence or enough consequence for doing so.

 

In every instance I was enjoying my battle, was in total control of my enemy target, dancing around him tracking and knocking shot after shot into him then slam! team arty drops a needless and selfish bomb on both target and me totally selfishly and needlessly either killing both me and enemy that I was about to kill anyway or killing enemy and effectively ruining my battle since I am now tracked, modules broken like engine and gun, crew killed and what happens the teammate? nothing, he sends a patronizing and troll "lol sorry!!" message in chat. Is there anything can be done to change this or changes that should be made?



jack_timber #2 Posted 03 February 2018 - 10:23 PM

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Yes some can be right inconsiderate...

Never, well 99% of time, drop a shell near two sparring tanks even though green tank maybe asking for help. 

So how can it change then?

1 Arty players must have a clear shot with no green tanks near, unfortunately you have found out this don't happen. It's a mindset, tunnel vision perhaps, you know it's taken me 10 seconds to traverse, 6 seconds to aim so I am going to fire.

2 From an arty players viewpoint I always highlight which tank I am aiming for, fire shell only to find others haven't looked at minimap or chat or see the sign over the tank and driven to close just as shell lands.

 

 


Edited by jack_timber, 03 February 2018 - 10:33 PM.


Mule_Skinner #3 Posted 03 February 2018 - 10:29 PM

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I don't play arty much, but when I do I only tend to hit friendlies in the 'mop-up' stage where friendlies are hugging the enemy trying to block my shot.  I feel I deserve a chance to so I let loose.  However, beyond that, I rarely hit friendlies.

Edited by Mule_Skinner, 03 February 2018 - 10:30 PM.


PhooBar #4 Posted 04 February 2018 - 06:08 AM

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Post a link to the replay?

 



Desyatnik_Pansy #5 Posted 04 February 2018 - 06:20 AM

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The only case I've ever deliberately shot near an ally (and I mean in this case it's my idiot friend platoonmate, so y'know, it's already not as bad because it's not just some random teammate) was this one:

 

It was a tactical decision tho, rather than a "hurr durr I want damage" as you've mentioned in the OP And I've encountered myself a few times. He'd gone valley, had the two ISs spotted and I'd been hammering a bit as well as some other allies who later died. He gets pushed by them and I'm aiming for the first one while he deals with the second, but he bounces the killshot and won't reload before he dies, so I just tell him "sorry" and splashed all three. Definitely the funniest way to get a Bombardier though.



Sfinski #6 Posted 04 February 2018 - 06:24 AM

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Arty shoots me I shoot back. Simple. 

monthey_ #7 Posted 04 February 2018 - 08:54 AM

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Problem with 99% of arty players, they hardly ever mark their targets for us to know they are about to blast the enemey you are face hugging. Problem is easily solved if the majority could find the 'z' key on their keyboard

Archaean #8 Posted 04 February 2018 - 08:57 AM

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Just yesterday I got attacked by my own arty while engaging two tanks and got two crew members killed + tracked. Guess what happend to me?

thestaggy #9 Posted 04 February 2018 - 09:00 AM

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At least you got a patronising apology.

 

In every instance where I have been damaged or killed by ''friendly'' arty they have either blamed me or flat out told me that they don't care.

 

F*** that entire class. I hate it.


Edited by thestaggy, 04 February 2018 - 09:00 AM.


Archaean #10 Posted 04 February 2018 - 09:02 AM

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View Postthestaggy, on 04 February 2018 - 09:00 AM, said:

At least you got a patronising apology.

 

In every instance where I have been damaged or killed by ''friendly'' arty they have either blamed me or flat out told me that they don't care.

 

F*** that entire class. I hate it.

 

Occasionally I'm playing arty myself, but only for the sake of missions. these secondary rewards are very juicy. But now follows the big BUT: I wouldn't miss it at all if it got removed this instance. (Let's say I enter an arty game when my frustration reached a very high level)

Edited by Archaean, 04 February 2018 - 09:02 AM.


DracheimFlug #11 Posted 04 February 2018 - 10:58 AM

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View Postmonthey_, on 04 February 2018 - 08:54 AM, said:

Problem with 99% of arty players, they hardly ever mark their targets for us to know they are about to blast the enemey you are face hugging. Problem is easily solved if the majority could find the 'z' key on their keyboard

 

The problem with 99% of non-arty players is they completely ignore any such markings.

 

Of course the problem with exaggerated statistics is that they are exaggerated..... 



krismorgan #12 Posted 04 February 2018 - 11:27 AM

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I dont fire if friendlies are there.i just wait to see if they survive the encounter before firing.

Aikl #13 Posted 04 February 2018 - 11:33 AM

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Doesn't happen that often if you ask me, but the times it happens are well remembered. Clear as day I can recall circling an E75 in my T-54. It was 2014, so pre-nerf arty. The E75 had no backup and was dead in the water. Friendly arty decides to "help" by smashing me for ~1k HP.

 

Anyway, I wouldn't expect arty players to pay much attention. Part of the problem is that the TK system is way more relaxed for artillery than it is for other tanks. I believe four direct shots only gets you blue. Stunning doesn't count, i.e. arty is ideal for being a total [edited]to your own team as well.



XxKuzkina_MatxX #14 Posted 04 February 2018 - 11:34 AM

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Well, what do you expect from a braindead leech who can't be bothered to learn the game and play a real tank??? However your frustration and anger don't shoot them let them pay for your repairs.

SlyMeerkat #15 Posted 04 February 2018 - 11:47 AM

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Im glad not to be apart of that problem as when i do play arty, i always mark where im aiming, let people know my reload and if an friendly is face hugging enemy tank, i hold off my fire until its clear to shoot or move my attention else where and relocate if and when needed..... Its really all common sense on how to play but most dont have that sadly 

Edited by SlyMeerkat, 04 February 2018 - 01:04 PM.


xx984 #16 Posted 04 February 2018 - 12:29 PM

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When this happens to me and if I survive I usually go to them and send a nice HE shell their way. 

Aim_Away_From_Face #17 Posted 04 February 2018 - 12:56 PM

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From the other side of the argument:

Dont go crying for help form arty and then proceed to facehug something you have no hope to pen. I've had teammates in the past going nuts in chat after they die whilst facehugging an IS7 or similar enemy saying 'why u no shoot enemy?! noob clicker wah wah wah' without ever realising that if I'd fired, I'd have killed him too.

 

Good arty players mark every target, always update reload times, relocate to get better angles and always pay attention. 

A good arty player is more useful to you than any TD, sadly a bad one is no use to anyone and there are more of those than anything else which makes people never even realise when they do have a good one. 



monthey_ #18 Posted 04 February 2018 - 02:25 PM

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View PostDracheimFlug, on 04 February 2018 - 10:58 AM, said:

 

The problem with 99% of non-arty players is they completely ignore any such markings.

 

Of course the problem with exaggerated statistics is that they are exaggerated..... 

 

I call BS on that. Thry HARDLY EVER use markers on a regular bases. End of story

RamRaid90 #19 Posted 04 February 2018 - 02:32 PM

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All arty missions should come with the tag "must not cause any damage to allied tanks"

DracheimFlug #20 Posted 04 February 2018 - 02:45 PM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 04 February 2018 - 02:32 PM, said:

All arty missions should come with the tag "must not cause any damage to allied tanks"

 

Agreed




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