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hasnainrakha57 #1 Posted 05 February 2018 - 06:53 PM

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How many times u see this tank in battles?.What do u feel when u face one..What do you think while driving it.What is your experince with it?.Mine is pretty bad.I said to my friend with the introduction of obj 268 v4 now obj 268 is more useless.All he said was "lol! Which TD in the game is not better then obj 268".Write your experince with this tank please.I will appreciate it!.

Spurtung #2 Posted 05 February 2018 - 07:17 PM

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My vast experience of 3 battles, months ago:

- Crew is successfully 'locked' to the tank.

- It was as bad as expected.

- This one's done, time to get the other lines finished.

 

Current opinion, after finishing all the lines:

- It will stay parked in the back of the garage.



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i have sold only 2 tier 10s and one of them is obj 268 - total garbage td, it was a td everyone feared when i started playing wot, nowadays its one of the worst tier 10s among t110e5, which is the 2nd tier 10 that i have sold, if  wg remove cupola from e5 same as they did in wot blitz, i will rebuy it, otherwise not gonna happen. as for the obj 268 - never going to rebuy it, unless they make it absurdly overpowered, which is not going to happen, ever.

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jack_timber #4 Posted 06 February 2018 - 09:00 AM

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Well I have one, by mistake I hasten to add. Thought I was grinding to 263 but picked the wrong line it wasn't till I got to 704 I realised:(

Anyways even though I read it was not good I thought I would give it a go.

TBH you can do extremely well, rare, or extremely bad, most of the time, but nothing in between.

Gun handling is so so, even fully aimed, get more misses and tracks eating my shots than on other tanks.

Tried being aggressive, not recommended, or passive slightly better, but it ain't a Swedish TD when it comes to accuracy.

It the only tank I use premium ammo on as I reckon if I can hit a Red at least it will penetrate. Just checked had 100 battles in it with a wr of 48 % and only 1 high caliber!

So all in all its kind of ok but wouldn't recommend it, much prefer Swedish TDs.



lnfernaI #5 Posted 06 February 2018 - 09:03 AM

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I should've stayed on Obj.704 back when i unlocked 268. The soft stats on paper baited me in buying it...blah. ISU-152 and 704 are relevant,the other TD line i haven't experimented with yet.

Uebergewicht #6 Posted 06 February 2018 - 09:16 AM

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DO NOT complain about your Russian TD line being forgotten. Or else you might get the WG treatment, remodeling the entire line into the opposite of what it originally was, with no compensation, despite months long community protests. Just be glad with what you have or risk going the way of the 263...

hasnainrakha57 #7 Posted 06 February 2018 - 11:08 AM

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View PostUebergewicht, on 06 February 2018 - 08:16 AM, said:

DO NOT complain about your Russian TD line being forgotten. Or else you might get the WG treatment, remodeling the entire line into the opposite of what it originally was, with no compensation, despite months long community protests. Just be glad with what you have or risk going the way of the 263...

I spent much of my time,experience and huge amount of credits to get garbage in end?.WG is just a **** no one never complained about 263 only 268 was worst.What they did Is replace good tank and let rubbish stay!


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So what have we learned from this?
Read up about what you are going to grind.

The 268 has been at the bottom of the list for quite some time now so unless you got it before the TD nerf you could have known how good it was B4 you ground up to it.

If you had it before the nerf then tough luck old chap. Good Times are over and move on (as is the way with so many tier 10 tanks)

Ricky_Rolls #9 Posted 06 February 2018 - 12:55 PM

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It was by far one of the best td when it had 850 alpha (3k dpm btw) and when the meta was more about repositioning and being clever than steamrolling. The maps became awful , and they ruined his dpm when they nerfed it to 750.

 



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View PostRicky_Rolls, on 06 February 2018 - 12:55 PM, said:

It was by far one of the best td when it had 850 alpha (3k dpm btw) and when the meta was more about repositioning and being clever than steamrolling. The maps became awful , and they ruined his dpm when they nerfed it to 750.

 

 

The problem of the nerf was not the reduced alpha. Instead the narrow gun arc and the non-existing shell velocity made this TD trash.



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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 06 February 2018 - 10:08 AM, said:

I spent much of my time,experience and huge amount of credits to get garbage in end?.WG is just a **** no one never complained about 263 only 268 was worst.What they did Is replace good tank and let rubbish stay!

 

I don't know what were you expecting of 268. After the latest round of buff the tank its all right.

After HD rework armor was buffed so it works surprisingly well at range. Shell velocity was buffed to acceptable level. Gun arc was buffed so you can actually snipe without turning the hull. DPM and penetration are awesome. Camo is decent as well. The biggest bummer in my opinion is the -5 degrees of gun depression, it can really make you inflexible in certain situations. 

I'm not saying 268 is the best TD around, I'm just saying it's ok to play, I personally would pick 268 over something like Grille or JPE100 any day of the week. 



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just buff it back to the level it was intoduced cause i bought after the first nerfs. 

MPV_11 #13 Posted 07 February 2018 - 05:14 PM

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Probably the worst T10 TD in the game - although stats are way better than 704 the 704 is so much better.... 



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They should have left 263 line alone and instead buffed 268 line. Easy to fix: give the tanks the turning speed of the HT they come from (IS for ISU, IS-3 for 704 and T-10 for 268), may be buff a bit gun soft stat and nerf cammo to HT level. Here you go, the ultimate indafface assauld gun line.

 

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View PostDava_117, on 07 February 2018 - 06:44 PM, said:

They should have left 263 line alone and instead buffed 268 line. Easy to fix: give the tanks the turning speed of the HT they come from (IS for ISU, IS-3 for 704 and T-10 for 268), may be buff a bit gun soft stat and nerf cammo to HT level. Here you go, the ultimate indafface assauld gun line.

 

For 268 that would be more a nerf than a buff, though :v. That big nerf on camo would make it worse at sniping while it still wouldnt be a great assault tank. It needs either more armor, HP, more depression or something to work properly as an assault tank, if you're gonna rework it that way.

 

IMO they should have made the 263 line the sniper TD line, while 268 the actual assault TD line. However, now that the 268 is stated to be a sniper, just keep it the way it is and just buff it a bit. 850 alpha would be logical solution as it 1) would make it logical with the line (like, it keeps the same alpha with the tier 8 and 9; very high alpha is supposedly the theme of the branch, but 750 is not THAT high for a tier 10 TD) and 2) it would make it unique...but that would be obviously unhealthy for the game so I dont want to suggest that.

 

Instead, buff the depression, bloom and aiming time and you're golden, I guess.


Edited by leggasiini, 07 February 2018 - 07:57 PM.


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View Postleggasiini, on 07 February 2018 - 06:54 PM, said:

For 268 that would be more a nerf than a buff, though :v. That big nerf on camo would make it worse at sniping while it still wouldnt be a great assault tank. It needs either more armor, HP, more depression or something to work properly as an assault tank, if you're gonna rework it that way.

 

IMO they should have made the 263 line the sniper TD line, while 268 the actual assault TD line. However, now that the 268 is stated to be a sniper, just keep it the way it is and just buff it a bit. 850 alpha would be logical solution as it 1) would make it logical with the line (like, it keeps the same alpha with the tier 8 and 9; very high alpha is supposedly the theme of the branch, but 750 is not THAT high for a tier 10 TD) and 2) it would make it unique...but that would be obviously unhealthy for the game so I dont want to suggest that.

 

Instead, buff the depression, bloom and aiming time and you're golden, I guess.

Little bit of armour also? :(



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It died the moment they nerfed the shell velocity from like 1100 to 800ish values... Obj 268 was hands down one of my most beloved TDs and tanks in general, but after they nerfed the alpha, nerfed the mobility AND the shell velocity WG removed all good aspects of the TD and left only the bad ones. 

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View Postleggasiini, on 07 February 2018 - 07:54 PM, said:

For 268 that would be more a nerf than a buff, though :v. That big nerf on camo would make it worse at sniping while it still wouldnt be a great assault tank. It needs either more armor, HP, more depression or something to work properly as an assault tank, if you're gonna rework it that way.

 

IMO they should have made the 263 line the sniper TD line, while 268 the actual assault TD line. However, now that the 268 is stated to be a sniper, just keep it the way it is and just buff it a bit. 850 alpha would be logical solution as it 1) would make it logical with the line (like, it keeps the same alpha with the tier 8 and 9; very high alpha is supposedly the theme of the branch, but 750 is not THAT high for a tier 10 TD) and 2) it would make it unique...but that would be obviously unhealthy for the game so I dont want to suggest that.

 

Instead, buff the depression, bloom and aiming time and you're golden, I guess.

 

That solution may be good for 268, but won't work on ISU and 704. That horrible accuracy force you to play at close range where you can't work well because of the sluggish traverse speed. Playing ISU I would sacrifice all the cammo and get to the old 1050HP to get a good turning speed and BL-10. At least you would be able to support heavy by slapping them during reload.



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View PostDava_117, on 08 February 2018 - 12:57 PM, said:

 

That solution may be good for 268, but won't work on ISU and 704. That horrible accuracy force you to play at close range where you can't work well because of the sluggish traverse speed. Playing ISU I would sacrifice all the cammo and get to the old 1050HP to get a good turning speed and BL-10. At least you would be able to support heavy by slapping them during reload.

 

Yea, the 268 is not exactly like the ISU or 704. Giving 268 that kind of changes wouldnt work for it at all. For ISU/704 I agree that camo cut is logical considering their alpha and thus encouraging people to play it more aggressively, but the 268 needs a complete rebalance if you wanna make it an assault TD (by cutting its camo). Buffing its traverse speed is not enough; It doesnt make up for it.

 

Before nerfing the camo of the 268, it needs something else than the traverse speed buff.



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View Postleggasiini, on 08 February 2018 - 12:04 PM, said:

 

Yea, the 268 is not exactly like the ISU or 704. Giving 268 that kind of changes wouldnt work for it at all. For ISU/704 I agree that camo cut is logical considering their alpha and thus encouraging people to play it more aggressively, but the 268 needs a complete rebalance if you wanna make it an assault TD (by cutting its camo). Buffing its traverse speed is not enough; It doesnt make up for it.

 

Before nerfing the camo of the 268, it needs something else than the traverse speed buff.

 

What would you propose? :)

Everyone said 268 is trash, so I stopped to ISU ATM... 






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