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Kandly #1 Posted 06 February 2018 - 11:12 AM

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Commanders,

 

Please share your general feedback regarding Update 9.22 in this topic.

 

For other types of feedback, consult the following list:

Update 9.22 Feedback - Soviet Medium changes

Update 9.22 Feedback - Soviet Heavy changes

Update 9.22 Feedback - Soviet TD changes

Update 9.22 Feedback - Bug Reports
 

You can also find the portal article here.

 

Cheers,

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uglycousin #2 Posted 06 February 2018 - 04:19 PM

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Vehicles added to the Store

 

  • 8,8 cm Pak 43 Jagdtiger
  • Panzer 58 Mutz
  • M46 Patton KR
  • M56 Scorpion
  • AMX M4 mle. 49
  • AC 4 Experimental

 

 

Does this mean also tech tree for gold?



Gremlin182 #3 Posted 06 February 2018 - 04:23 PM

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Perfect timing I finished the Object 430 run Got the T10 and reached the SU122-54.

Now I can concentrate on the IS ready for the next changes.

 

Any plans for the 122-54 not played it yet but looks a decent TD sure it could return to the game in some form.

Premium, special or yet another TD line



Unknown_D #4 Posted 06 February 2018 - 04:32 PM

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When will the new Ranked season start?

_LEO_ #5 Posted 06 February 2018 - 04:37 PM

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When will you fix always bottom tier 3/5/7MM?

Tyfe #6 Posted 06 February 2018 - 04:37 PM

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What will happen for those players that currently have both the SU 122-54 and the Obj. 263 in their garage? If you own just one of them, you will get the new tier 9 Obj. 263, but since you cannot have two copies of the same tank in your garage - will you be credited with the credit cost of the tank, will you get no compensation whatsoever, or will something else happen. Please explain, thx.

 



NoPoet406 #7 Posted 06 February 2018 - 04:41 PM

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Yes, what we need is more Soviet tanks and more fixes/improvements/changes to the already massive Soviet tech tree. Never mind the existing trees (such as Britain's) which are in desperate need of expanding and overhaul. They got their crappy two seconds worth of fame in the horrible December updates - updates which have made the game very hard to enjoy.

_Panzer_X #8 Posted 06 February 2018 - 04:42 PM

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YEAH MORE GOD DAMN RUSSIAN OP TANKS !!! WHILE GERMAN TANKS ARE ALL CRAP FOR CW  :sceptic::sceptic::sceptic:

mjs_89 #9 Posted 06 February 2018 - 04:51 PM

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I just read the part about MM improvements and there is a thing I don't understand completely

The article states that players will be thrown in the first available battle regardless of the mode if the time in queur exceedes 50s. Does this mean that I will (rarely) be put in assault battles even if I specifically turned them off? Because that would really suck imo. I disabled assault for reasons, you know?

Other than that, the update seems ok. I don't play russian tanks too much, so there's not really anything for me this time, but new tanks are always nice I suppose.



fighting_falcon93 #10 Posted 06 February 2018 - 04:53 PM

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WG, don't you ever again dare to say that you listen to your players feedback.

 

Your feedback topics are USELESS. Do us a favour and stop asking for our feedback because it doesn't matter what we write because you'll still follow your own will.

 

The feedback about the Obj.263 line was so loud and clear that even Ph3lan wrote this himself:

 

View PostPh3lan, on 20 January 2018 - 04:00 PM, said:

It is pretty obvious that you guys feel very strongly about the changes to the 263 line.

 

YET you decide to proceed with the changes. How ignorant isn't that?

 

Thank you WG for destroying one of the most interesting TD branches in the game.

 

Also, Ph3lan made us a promise in the same reply as I mentioned above:

 

View PostPh3lan, on 20 January 2018 - 04:00 PM, said:

We will have a discussion with our developers about this and we will let them know how you feel about this change. We will update you about this next week.

 

We still havn't seen any update about that. Thank you for not only useless feedback threads but also useless promises.

 

I have asked this so many times and you can't even answer the question:

 

Why couldn't you keep both the Obj.263 and Obj.268V4 at tier 10?

 

One last thing. Look at what you're doing right now... "Please share your feedback"... Are you ------- serious? No! You don't listen to our feedback anyway. Want my feedback? You've already gotten it, 2 (TWO) times here and here.

 

I'm highly disappointed WG. Really, I actaully expected you to bring some sense into your heads when so many people on both EU and RU complained.

 

View Postfighting_falcon93, on 19 January 2018 - 02:22 PM, said:

 

Please don't move the Obj.263 to tier 9!

 

If you think that Obj.263 is consistent enough to sit on tier 9, I say it's total bullcrap that it needs to be moved in the first place. If you think that Obj.263 is too weak for tier 10, then buff it, but keep it at tier 10 and stop removing variety from the game!

 

Why can't you add the Obj.268V4 as an additional tier 10 TD instead?

 

Moving Obj.263 to tier 9 is a very, very bad change, mainly because:

 

  • Obj.263 is a unique vehicle of its class in tier 10 games. Not only does it offer unique gameplay compared to other tier 10 TDs, out of 11 TD branches currently in the game, only 4 of them has a tier 10 TD with an alpha below 600 damage. And with this change you want to change that 4 into a 3.
  • Obj.263 fits into the branch perfectly. It has low alpha compared to other TDs, just like the other tanks in the branch. It has good mobility and a rear mounted gun with bad gun depression, just like the other tanks in the branch. You even want to keep Obj.263 yourself in the branch, isn't that proof enough that the vehicle fits the branch? So why move it to tier 9? You started by removing tanks that didn't fit in other branches, now it seems you're editing branches left and right just because you can.
  • Obj.263 costs 692'710 xp to unlock, if we count the xp all the way from the start of the branch. Do you have atleast an idea of the amount of time a player has to put in to grind all that xp? And those players that decide which branch they want to grind depending on the tier 10, which tank do you think they wanted when they started the grind? Exactly, they wanted the Obj.263, not something else.

 

Let's see what you want this line to become:

 

 

What you described above is exactly what the Obj.263 is, except it has a better gun. So you want to "fix" an unpopular line by making it even worse? Hello?!?!?!

 

Players have made it very clear that this is not what they want. Take a look in this thread at the Russian forum. That's currently 91 pages of discussion where players are very unhappy with this change. Take a look at this other thread at the Russian forum. That's currently 12 pages of discussion where players also are very unhappy with this change. Take a look around on your own European forum, how happy does players seem about this change? WG, if you proceed with this change, never ever dare to say that you listen to your players feedback again.

 

Instead, I have 2 other suggestions for you:

 

 

 

WG, you say that you listen to our feedback. Now is the time to prove that!

 

 

If you agree that Obj.263 should remain at tier 10 with either its current stats or buffed stats, please repost the image above to show your support. Don't forget how WG wanted to destroy the BatChat branch, and now they want to do it again with the Obj.263 branch. We managed to stop them then, and if we protest loud enough, we might be able to stop them again.

 

#KeepObj263AtTier10 :izmena: :izmena: :izmena:


Edited by fighting_falcon93, 06 February 2018 - 05:01 PM.


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View PostKandly, on 06 February 2018 - 11:12 AM, said:

Commanders,

 

Please share your general feedback regarding Update 9.22 in this topic.

 

For other types of feedback, consult the following list:

Update 9.22 Feedback - Soviet Medium changes

Update 9.22 Feedback - Soviet Heavy changes

Update 9.22 Feedback - Soviet TD changes

Update 9.22 Feedback - Bug Reports
 

Cheers,

Kandly

 

Why the hell would we give feedback when you won't do a single thing with it? 

Azgabast #12 Posted 06 February 2018 - 04:57 PM

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View Postuglycousin, on 06 February 2018 - 04:19 PM, said:

 

 

Does this mean also tech tree for gold?

 

My question as well, since I am sitting on some tens of thounsands of gold, maybe I'd like to throw some at one of these vehicles.

Thanks.

 


th013 #13 Posted 06 February 2018 - 05:01 PM

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When it takes too long to assign a player to a battle, the matchmaker may add extra Battle Modes to those you’ve marked. If the wait takes more than 50 seconds, you’ll enter the first available match in any mode.

 

 

Please tell me it does not mean MM will put me in grand battle or encounter if I chose not to play them?



PipeHugger #14 Posted 06 February 2018 - 05:03 PM

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"When it takes too long to assign a player to a battle, the matchmaker may add extra Battle Modes to those you’ve marked. If the wait takes more than 50 seconds, you’ll enter the first available match in any mode." A pretty desperate measure. I see no mention of fixes for real issues like the sound bug and increased connection problems but just a ridiculous fix and a few new blueprint tanks. Fix the bits that are wrong and then ask us what to do next.

Azgabast #15 Posted 06 February 2018 - 05:08 PM

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When it takes too long to assign a player to a battle, the matchmaker may add extra Battle Modes to those you’ve marked. If the wait takes more than 50 seconds, you’ll enter the first available match in any mode.

 

Sooo, I may end up in an assault battle even if I've disabled them? I hope this will never happen though since I will be a bit angry..



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View PosteXterm, on 06 February 2018 - 05:43 PM, said:

I've heard that there is Trade-In event running on RU currently, will there be possibility to trade in Defender for 252U (or 252U for Defender)? I've bought painted one and want "normal" 252U

 

Man send a ticket to WG and ask them to exchange your Defender with the normal 252U. They will do it for free. However, you won't be able to ask for Defender again, this exchange can only be done once. I did it the same for my Patriot and it worked!

Gremlin182 #17 Posted 06 February 2018 - 05:13 PM

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Feedback isn't the same as calling an employee and giving them orders.

Some seem to assume that if they believe something and there are maybe 10 others on the forum that believe the same thing that means its the majority opinion.

Seen plenty of suggestions on the forum that led to changes made a few suggestions myself that ended up in the game.

Made a lot that didn't.

 

That said I do not think moving the 263 down a tier was a good idea, it was never going to be a popular one unless the tier 10 replacement was absolutely amazing.

Given that after the protest the new tier 10 was nerfed I think we can abandon that idea.

 

In a nutshell players love being given stuff but hate losing stuff.

The SU 263 took players a lot of time and effort they have been playing endless games to work towards that very goal maybe they even spent money on it.

While they have no right to expect nothing to change in the game you didn't remove the SU263 you moved it down a tier and nerfed it.

So players that like it will still be facing tier 10 tanks but with a weaker TD.

It was a pretty stupid move imo and I haven't even got the 263, would it have been so hard to make a new tier 9.

Its like the ELC argument all over again you knew that was going to cause outrage could you have moved it up a tier and left it unchanged ?

Of course you could then just create a new tier 5.



TijgernootTank #18 Posted 06 February 2018 - 05:17 PM

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Update 9.22 , in this version of wot , is there support for a clanchannel and a friendlist ?

And will the personal mission campaigns still be available ?

 

At least we know if there will be bugs that last for months , there will be generous compensation , even if the bugs dont get completely fixed .  T4NKYOU



ExistanceUK #19 Posted 06 February 2018 - 05:23 PM

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Skimming over the patch notes I see a couple of things to highlight:

So 5mm (to 45mm) buff to the 257 lower side armour to make that over powered again as no over matching with 122+ guns.

And unless the article is wrong a 5km/h nerf to the 268v4 top speed (from 55 to 50), possible sign that the are other nerfs to mobility?
 

Edited by ExistanceUK, 06 February 2018 - 05:28 PM.


m44t #20 Posted 06 February 2018 - 05:25 PM

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More gold flying on high tiers. I hope those of you who think it's going to be awesome to have new rashan op tanks,will pay for WG moonbase. I won't. Enough is enough,  no more buying premium account and no new tanks for me. wg thx 4 destroying my favourite game. 





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