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Hrska #1 Posted 06 February 2018 - 01:48 PM

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If I have T-10 in my garage will I get obj. 257 when 9.22 hits? Or will it be only researched?

thestaggy #2 Posted 06 February 2018 - 01:51 PM

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If you have the T-10 you will get the Obj 257. The equivalent modules you have unlocked on the T-10 will be unlocked on the 257 as well.

 

And in case you haven't played the tank, the 257 carries its ammo externally on the front of the tank.


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DuncaN_101 #3 Posted 06 February 2018 - 01:52 PM

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Check the 15 other topics on this page or even the main website and you will find that you will get the new tank.

KillingJoker #4 Posted 06 February 2018 - 10:05 PM

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When the next patch releases, im gona get 2500.000 credits for free, because i will sell the obj 257, i will not contribute to populate th matches with broken OP machines

that are boring and should never be released....

 

the parody moments of going preferencialy sideways on testserver was enough for the laugh... ill not drive that think in the regular server. 



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View PostKillingJoker, on 06 February 2018 - 10:05 PM, said:

When the next patch releases, im gona get 2500.000 credits for free, because i will sell the obj 257, i will not contribute to populate th matches with broken OP machines

that are boring and should never be released....

 

WG nerfed it heavily before the release.



Sfinski #6 Posted 07 February 2018 - 07:48 AM

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I guess I'll mark it but the t-10 will stay better with its mobility. Its good to have as many t9s as possible cause its the only tier with working mm. 

jimbobjammybob #7 Posted 07 February 2018 - 08:09 AM

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View PostSfinski, on 07 February 2018 - 07:48 AM, said:

I guess I'll mark it but the t-10 will stay better with its mobility. Its good to have as many t9s as possible cause its the only tier with working mm. 

 

funny that isnt it +1 -2.... you call that working, I am honest enough to call it heavily biased.

thestaggy #8 Posted 07 February 2018 - 08:14 AM

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View PostKillingJoker, on 06 February 2018 - 10:05 PM, said:

When the next patch releases, im gona get 2500.000 credits for free, because i will sell the obj 257, i will not contribute to populate th matches with broken OP machines

that are boring and should never be released....

 

the parody moments of going preferencialy sideways on testserver was enough for the laugh... ill not drive that think in the regular server. 

 

I never found it OP on the test server.

 

It is slow,  plays nothing like the IS-3, T-10 or IS-7 in their respective tiers and it has one of the worst ammo racks I have ever encountered. And I played through the British medium tanks. In one battle I was ammoracked 3 times in 4 shots. First shot; racked. Repair. Second shot, racked. Hide and wait for repair. Third shot, pen. Fourth shot, racked.


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Sfinski #9 Posted 07 February 2018 - 08:18 AM

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View Postjimbobjammybob, on 07 February 2018 - 09:09 AM, said:

 

funny that isnt it +1 -2.... you call that working, I am honest enough to call it heavily biased.

So to you t10 is even more biased as it has+0 mm?



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View PostSfinski, on 07 February 2018 - 08:18 AM, said:

So to you t10 is even more biased as it has+0 mm?

 

the disparity between tier 7-9 is not to be ignored and of course the fact that full tier 10 battles are a thing where as full tier 9 battles are rarer than monkey wizards. It is also important to remember that as top tier you carry all the burden.

 

over large game counts I reckon its easier to carry at tier 9 than tier 10 especially if you factor in and of course play grand battles.

 

tldr: No.

 

 



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View Postjimbobjammybob, on 07 February 2018 - 09:47 AM, said:

 

the disparity between tier 7-9 is not to be ignored and of course the fact that full tier 10 battles are a thing where as full tier 9 battles are rarer than monkey wizards. It is also important to remember that as top tier you carry all the burden.

 

over large game counts I reckon its easier to carry at tier 9 than tier 10 especially if you factor in and of course play grand battles.

 

tldr: No.

 

 

 

What I've seen t10s see t8s more often than t9s see t7s. And the difference is bigger between t8s and t10s than t7s and t9s. 

 

Also GBs arent really played a lot and shouldn't be accounted for when talking about balance between tiers.



Vanezza #12 Posted 07 February 2018 - 09:01 AM

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I sold it too. everyone is shooting only the premium, bad game and unfair game

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jimbobjammybob #13 Posted 07 February 2018 - 09:05 AM

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View PostSfinski, on 07 February 2018 - 08:57 AM, said:

 

What I've seen t10s see t8s more often than t9s see t7s. And the difference is bigger between t8s and t10s than t7s and t9s. 

 

Also GBs arent really played a lot and shouldn't be accounted for when talking about balance between tiers.

 

Do you have a point to make that I am missing?

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View Postjimbobjammybob, on 07 February 2018 - 10:05 AM, said:

 

Do you have a point to make that I am missing?

 

Yes. T10 is more biased.

jimbobjammybob #15 Posted 07 February 2018 - 09:32 AM

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View PostSfinski, on 07 February 2018 - 09:25 AM, said:

 

Yes. T10 is more biased.

 

Interestingly you and I both have better wr in our tier 9 vs our tier 10 tanks. Not just a small margin either. I wonder why that is.

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View PostSfinski, on 07 February 2018 - 07:18 AM, said:

So to you t10 is even more biased as it has+0 mm?

The thing is...unless a tank has preferencial matchmaking(meaning is crapin its own tier) it must see as many tiers above as it sees under...so if a tank can only fight tanks 1 tier higher than them...then it should not be able to fight tanks 2 tiers lower than it...so tier 9 should be +1/-1...and that will make everything in this game become +1/-1 which would be way better for the game...and as a perk for grinding to the tier 10...your matchmaking will be +0/-1 which is enough...the +0/-2 tier 10 gets now is insane...you only get to see tanks that are either as powerful as you, worse than you(tier 9) or way worse than you(tier 8) if that is not biased...i don't know know what it is...i mean cmon...a tier 8 vs a maus or type 5? Can't pen...a tier 8 vs a badger? Can't pen it and the badger anihilates that tier 8 in roughly 10 seconds...a tier 8 vs batchat? 4 shots in under 9 seconds and bye...a tier 8 vs t57? Ahahhahhah you are gone in either 4 or 6 seconds...a tier 8 vs a tvp? Either dead or almost your entire HP gone in 4.5 seconds..most of tier 8s vs a tier 10 med...you barely have half or just over half the dpm that tier 10 med has...it just is not balanced in any way whatsoever.


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View Postjimbobjammybob, on 07 February 2018 - 10:32 AM, said:

 

Interestingly you and I both have better wr in our tier 9 vs our tier 10 tanks. Not just a small margin either. I wonder why that is.

 

more balanced in their respective tiers. The difference in some t10 tanks is almist like the difference between fcm 50t and defender. 7.5 versus 8.5 inside one tier. 

m44t #18 Posted 07 February 2018 - 10:41 AM

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I know the topic starts with "T10"  but please I'd like to read something about obj-257 vs t-10 not about bias and balancing and crappy mm..

jimbobjammybob #19 Posted 07 February 2018 - 11:03 AM

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View PostSfinski, on 07 February 2018 - 10:24 AM, said:

 

more balanced in their respective tiers. The difference in some t10 tanks is almist like the difference between fcm 50t and defender. 7.5 versus 8.5 inside one tier. 

 

I am not talking about the sh1tbarn here.



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View Postthestaggy, on 07 February 2018 - 07:14 AM, said:

 

I never found it OP on the test server.

 

It is slow,  plays nothing like the IS-3, T-10 or IS-7 in their respective tiers and it has one of the worst ammo racks I have ever encountered. And I played through the British medium tanks. In one battle I was ammoracked 3 times in 4 shots. First shot; racked. Repair. Second shot, racked. Hide and wait for repair. Third shot, pen. Fourth shout, racked.

 

​I agree, almost every game that I have played in this piece of S*** I end up having to use the repair kit for the ammo rack. Even with less armour I never had this problem on the T-10.




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