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thestaggy #1 Posted 06 February 2018 - 06:50 PM

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I've just read the patch notes and there will be a bunch of tanks introduced to the premium store plus the removal of a once well-respected PMM tank. 

 

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Tanks added:

8,8 cm Pak 43 Jagdtiger

Panzer 58 Mutz

M46 Patton KR

M56 Scorpion

AMX M4 mle. 49

AC 4 Experimental

 

Tank removed:

FCM 50t

 

https://worldoftanks...e-announcement/

 

Now, the removal of the 50t comes as no surprise as WG long spoke of ending PMM tanks. They also hinted a while back that it would be replaced by something else, a la AMX M4 mle. 49. 

 

However, the return of the Pak 43 is curious. Curious in that it is a PMM tank that was removed nearly 2-years ago for being the very type of tank WG has deemed to be problematic. The recent buffs in terms of mobility may have resulted in its return, but I don't know how much of a difference those changes made as I traded my Pak 43 in for an M4 Rev before it was buffed. 

 

So, what happens with the IS-6 down the line? Will a new, more reasonably balanced tier 8 premium be introduced and the IS-6 pulled, a la FCM 50t-AMX mle 49, or, will the IS-6 be removed, buffed/re-balanced and returned, a la Pak 43?


Edited by thestaggy, 06 February 2018 - 06:54 PM.


Grand_Moff_Tano #2 Posted 06 February 2018 - 06:53 PM

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Actually what they said was that they will not be introducing any new PMM tanks, not that they are trying to remove them, though they are, iirc, exploring ways on removing the PMM while giving them some sort of buff.

thestaggy #3 Posted 06 February 2018 - 06:55 PM

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View PostChipmunk_of_Vengeance, on 06 February 2018 - 06:53 PM, said:

Actually what they said was that they will not be introducing any new PMM tanks, not that they are trying to remove them, though they are, iirc, exploring ways on removing the PMM while giving them some sort of buff.

 

But the Pak 43 is coming back post-buff. PMM tanks may not be going extinct for whatever reason.

Grand_Moff_Tano #4 Posted 06 February 2018 - 06:57 PM

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View Postthestaggy, on 06 February 2018 - 05:55 PM, said:

 

But the Pak 43 is coming back post-buff. PMM tanks may not be going extinct for whatever reason.

 

That doesn't mean they won't be adding them back to the store, for whatever reason.

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View PostChipmunk_of_Vengeance, on 06 February 2018 - 06:53 PM, said:

Actually what they said was that they will not be introducing any new PMM tanks, not that they are trying to remove them, though they are, iirc, exploring ways on removing the PMM while giving them some sort of buff.

 

They wont remove them as long as they still sell. I have the feeling that the FCM 50t sales dropped below a critical level and WG now will replace it with something different. I dont think they would have pulled that tanks plug if it would not be for lackluster sales.

But lets be real here. I dont know anyone who still plays the tank. Everyone I know deems it to be bad at best, You hardly ever see them in random battles no more.



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View Postthestaggy, on 06 February 2018 - 05:50 PM, said:

 Will a new, more reasonably balanced tier 8 premium be introduced and the IS-6 pulled,

*cough* Defender *cough*

Just got to finish balancing everything else around it before putting it back in the shop



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View PostWunderWurst, on 06 February 2018 - 06:00 PM, said:

 

They wont remove them as long as they still sell. I have the feeling that the FCM 50t sales dropped below a critical level and WG now will replace it with something different. I dont think they would have pulled that tanks plug if it would not be for lackluster sales.

Going by that logic WG would have put the Type 59 on sale, an overrated Premium Medium tank that never sees Tier 10.



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View PostChipmunk_of_Vengeance, on 06 February 2018 - 06:02 PM, said:

Going by that logic WG would have put the Type 59 on sale

Err they already did, didn't they?

 

They just did it in loot boxes.

With the ELC Even 90 early access It strikes me that WG are just experimenting with different ways to "introduce" tanks without the massive MM cliff edge that results in 5 a side of <new tank> for the first 2 weeks, or 12 a side if it's a low tier freebie.



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View PostPvt_Duffer, on 06 February 2018 - 06:06 PM, said:

Err they already did, didn't they?

 

They just did it in loot boxes.

With the ELC Even 90 early access It strikes me that WG are just experimenting with different ways to "introduce" tanks without the massive MM cliff edge that results in 5 a side of <new tank> for the first 2 weeks, or 12 a side if it's a low tier freebie.

 

They did? I followed the loot boxes I never saw it come up, what I did see was an event where you could get it for free with a very low chance of actually getting it.

Edited by Chipmunk_of_Vengeance, 06 February 2018 - 07:10 PM.


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Oh nice. Any of them worth it? 

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View Postundutchable80, on 06 February 2018 - 07:47 PM, said:

Oh nice. Any of them worth it? 

 

Panzerjager VIB, M56 Scorpion and AMX M4 Modelé 49, latter comes from engaging the vehicle.

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I would gladly replace my 50T with Liberte with trade in option if 50T stays in his current(*rap) state. But somehow i doubt we will see that option...

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All trash but Liberte. M56 being one of the worst.

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View Postthestaggy, on 06 February 2018 - 05:50 PM, said:

So, what happens with the IS-6 down the line? Will a new, more reasonably balanced tier 8 premium be introduced and the IS-6 pulled, a la FCM 50t-AMX mle 49, or, will the IS-6 be removed, buffed/re-balanced and returned, a la Pak 43?

 

I'm kind of surprised that WG didn't switch IS-6 with something like IS-3a.



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View Postthestaggy, on 06 February 2018 - 06:50 PM, said:

Now, the removal of the 50t comes as no surprise as WG long spoke of ending PMM tanks. They also hinted a while back that it would be replaced by something else, a la AMX M4 mle. 49.

 

I suspect it's simply to fresh up the rotation a bit in the store. As they have pushed the same tanks for over a year now. And the Skoprion has been in the store more then it has been off it. So I'm amazed they had it in there for so long as is. And they will only sell that well for so long. So some fresh tanks in there won't hurt.

 

 

View Postthestaggy, on 06 February 2018 - 06:50 PM, said:

However, the return of the Pak 43 is curious. Curious in that it is a PMM tank that was removed nearly 2-years ago for being the very type of tank WG has deemed to be problematic. 

 

Pak 43 was simply removed from the tech tree for gold, as the 50t will be for the same reasons. It won't return to the tech tree for gold as far as I understood it, and that's what WG want's. Not to remove it from the game or never sell it again. It's been sold in the store a few times since it's removal already. And I'm sure the 50t will still appear now and then after it's removal as well.

 

View Postthestaggy, on 06 February 2018 - 06:50 PM, said:

So, what happens with the IS-6 down the line? Will a new, more reasonably balanced tier 8 premium be introduced and the IS-6 pulled, a la FCM 50t-AMX mle 49, or, will the IS-6 be removed, buffed/re-balanced and returned, a la Pak 43?

 

Either it will be removed like planed years ago when they did take the Pak 43 out. Or it will remain in the tech tree once they decide what to do with it in terms of the planned buffs, and it's Pref MM removal etc. If they do take that approach that is. Then again I'm more curious about the Panther M10 and 112 that were recently added back, tho removed for different reasons. And pref MM was the reason for the Panther M10. As he was removed along with most of the mid tier pref MM premiums like the Ram II and T14 etc.



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View Postundutchable80, on 06 February 2018 - 07:47 PM, said:

Oh nice. Any of them worth it? 

 

I really like the Patton KR, particularly as it was buffed a couple of patches ago to have a much stronger mantlet, making it a great snap-shotting ridge fighter. If you got the T25 Pilot 1 from the marathon, however, it's not worth buying the KR unless you're a die-hard fan of US mediums.

 

I also like the M56 Scorpion simply because I think it's one of the best looking models in the game. I've hardly played mine but sometimes I'll just look at it from different angles in the garage. Of the few battles I've played, it's got good camo and the gun isn't useless but bear in mind that 1mm of armour isn't even going to save you from a nasty look.

 

I don't know about the rest. I'm not surprised about the French swap, shame there's not an offer to swap the FCM for the Liberté when it's removed but maybe there'll be a buff for it in time. Or a trade-in period.



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I'm a tadicum confused why the Guard isn't in the premium shop.

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Hopefully a free tier 11 type 6 heavy with every purchease.

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View Postbasin79, on 06 February 2018 - 09:37 PM, said:

I'm a tadicum confused why the Guard isn't in the premium shop.

 

Indeed! its well balanced and pretty unique looking, shame.

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View PostStrappster, on 06 February 2018 - 10:30 PM, said:

I also like the M56 Scorpion simply because I think it's one of the best looking models in the game. I've hardly played mine but sometimes I'll just look at it from different angles in the garage. Of the few battles I've played, it's got good camo and the gun isn't useless but bear in mind that 1mm of armour isn't even going to save you from a nasty look.

 

The M56 actually looks like a decent scout as well.

 

I was in a battle on Malinovka with my Skorpion G and a little Scorpion pulled 3.5k spotting damage. Barely done any damage, but he was occupying the spots you'd usually find a light tank.


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