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MyArmorIsGolden #1 Posted 06 February 2018 - 11:47 PM

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every tank should be play with its own tier. even tier 10s uses gold ammo for penetrating enemy tanks. how can i pen enemy maus with my tier 8 tank. even gold ammo wont work. just lose credits for nothing.

Gboor #2 Posted 06 February 2018 - 11:52 PM

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When did you see maus in random last time tbh i havent for long time and yes, most of tier 8 can pen maus with gold ammo

Edited by Gboor, 06 February 2018 - 11:53 PM.


Search_Warrant #3 Posted 06 February 2018 - 11:55 PM

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Its MM's fault mainly. tho i do think tier 9-10 are a bit too much for a tier 8 medium. the power grap is a tad too big.

MyArmorIsGolden #4 Posted 06 February 2018 - 11:55 PM

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View PostGboor, on 06 February 2018 - 11:52 PM, said:

most of tier 8 can pen maus with gold ammo

lol no.

even tier 10s cant pen maus with gold. thicc


Edited by MyArmorIsGolden, 06 February 2018 - 11:56 PM.


TacticusMK2 #5 Posted 06 February 2018 - 11:55 PM

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3 5 7 isnt that bad, was way worse in the past.

 

 



RamRaid90 #6 Posted 06 February 2018 - 11:56 PM

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View PostGboor, on 06 February 2018 - 10:52 PM, said:

When did you see maus in random last time tbh i havent for long time and yes, most of tier 8 can pen maus with gold ammo

 

When was the last time you played WoT?

 

They are in everytier X battle.



demon_tank #7 Posted 07 February 2018 - 12:02 AM

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How about no.

 

I enjoy sealclubbin tier 8s in my tier 10 tonks.

 

If u somehow only play low tiers then FeelsBadMan.



BonjiOrongji #8 Posted 07 February 2018 - 12:05 AM

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View PostMyArmorIsGolden, on 06 February 2018 - 11:55 PM, said:

lol no.

even tier 10s cant pen maus with gold. thicc

 

maus armor is a joke against tier 10 premium ammo ... unless you do not want to shoot at anything

Stat_Padder #9 Posted 07 February 2018 - 12:11 AM

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View PostMyArmorIsGolden, on 06 February 2018 - 10:47 PM, said:

every tank should be play with its own tier. even tier 10s uses gold ammo for penetrating enemy tanks. how can i pen enemy maus with my tier 8 tank. even gold ammo wont work. just lose credits for nothing.

 

Even better an EU3 server for 40% players.... :child:

Aikl #10 Posted 07 February 2018 - 12:12 AM

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View Postdemon_tank, on 06 February 2018 - 11:02 PM, said:

(...)

I enjoy sealclubbin tier 8s in my tier 10 tonks.

(...)

 

 

Simple question: Do you honestly think that's fun for extended periods of time? I can understand T10-only games being a bit fussy, but 3-5-7...



Balc0ra #11 Posted 07 February 2018 - 12:20 AM

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View PostMyArmorIsGolden, on 06 February 2018 - 11:47 PM, said:

every tank should be play with its own tier. even tier 10s uses gold ammo for penetrating enemy tanks. how can i pen enemy maus with my tier 8 tank. even gold ammo wont work. just lose credits for nothing.

 

Do you always search and charge head on in a corridor on a tier X HT in your tier 8 when there are other targets you can fight? If you can't pen it, and you know they have one. Why go there? Why go the one spot you will be most useless if that's how you feel? Roles changes for +2. Just because you are a HT, don't mean it's your job to fight the Maus head on first. And if you are a tier 8 med etc late game facing it. A corridor where you can't flank or track it. Is the worst place you can go. Don't seek him out on his ground. Force him to come to you on your more open ground. As head on in a corridor, most tier X's will struggle vs it.

 

 

I personally don't mind +2. Tho some tanks needs to be buffed for +2, as they were buffed for +2 in the old meta, not the new. But still I would leave rather fast if all I faced was the same 4 tanks all day long in a +0 or +1. The issue IMO is +0 MM on tier 8, and the 3-5-7 formula for high tiers. As tier 8 MM don't benefit much of it either way. As I prefer +1 and +2 games with a 3-5-7 spread in my tier 8's, be they pref MM or not. Vs pure tier 8 games full of VK 100.01 and Defenders etc. As not all tier 8's can deal with super heavies on their own tier with most ammo types atm either. And the new spread and the addition of more common equal tier games kinda did screw tier 8 a bit over on high tiers vs the old MM.

 

 



demon_tank #12 Posted 07 February 2018 - 12:55 AM

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View PostAikl, on 06 February 2018 - 11:12 PM, said:

 

 

Simple question: Do you honestly think that's fun for extended periods of time? I can understand T10-only games being a bit fussy, but 3-5-7...

 

-/+ 2 is fine for me. Always a win win.

 

When im the top dog i enjoy seal clubbin.

When im bottom tier i enjoy the bonus exp.

 

Its not like you can get all the bad luck and constantly be bottom tier.

 

-/+ 2 is the least of WOTs problems to be honest.



malachi6 #13 Posted 07 February 2018 - 06:46 AM

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If you can't pen a Maus, don't shoot at a Maus?  14 other tanks on the other team right?  Seven of which are the same tier as you?

Edited by malachi6, 07 February 2018 - 06:47 AM.


Yaccay #14 Posted 07 February 2018 - 07:18 AM

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+-1 MM vs current MM.

 

With the current MM you often play when:

1.) All tanks are the same tier. This is absolutly perfect.

2.) All tank are +-1 tier. This is the perfect +-1 MM what you always wanted.

3.) All tank within +-2 tier. But even if you are low tier ONLY 3 tank are +2 tier. All other tanks are in +1 tier or the same tier. This constuction is practically +-1 MM with 3 exeption.

 

If you still unstatisfied, then play tier X tanks, and you will be always GUARANTEED TOP TIER. 

Or play tier IX and you never be 2 tier below other tanks.



Doozerr #15 Posted 07 February 2018 - 07:24 AM

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View PostMyArmorIsGolden, on 06 February 2018 - 11:47 PM, said:

every tank should be play with its own tier. even tier 10s uses gold ammo for penetrating enemy tanks. how can i pen enemy maus with my tier 8 tank. even gold ammo wont work. just lose credits for nothing.

+2/-2 is fine, you need to ltp and git gud



Morgaroth_ #16 Posted 07 February 2018 - 09:08 AM

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View PostDoozerr, on 07 February 2018 - 07:24 AM, said:

+2/-2 is fine, you need to spam more gold.

Fixed that for u



Jigabachi #17 Posted 07 February 2018 - 09:16 AM

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Sooo... there is this one tank that invert hard to pen, even for same tier tanks.
Why the hell don't you suggest a rebalance of said tank instead of blaming it on the MM and changing the entire game around it?

"Hey, doctor. I have a broken finger."
"Ok, let's cut off the hand."

Homer_J #18 Posted 07 February 2018 - 09:36 AM

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View PostMyArmorIsGolden, on 06 February 2018 - 10:47 PM, said:

every tank should be play with its own tier. even tier 10s uses gold ammo for penetrating enemy tanks.

 

So you just blew your own idea off.

 

Tier X doesn't meet any higher tier.  Everyone has at least 7 of their own tier or lower to fight.  Man up. Git gud.



Homer_J #19 Posted 07 February 2018 - 09:37 AM

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View PostJigabachi, on 07 February 2018 - 08:16 AM, said:


"Hey, doctor. I have a broken finger."
"Ok, let's cut off the hand."

 

Patient: Now my wrist is bleeding.

Doctor: Hmm... better have the whole arm off then.



Cobra6 #20 Posted 07 February 2018 - 09:50 AM

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3-5-7 is a failed template that is generally bad for everyone with the exception of the top 3 tanks.

 

5-10 is the preferred template and if that can't be made same tier MM should be the default.

 

After that, 3-5-7 should be attempted.

 

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