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Akathis #41 Posted 08 February 2018 - 12:56 AM

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View PostSlyMeerkat, on 07 February 2018 - 11:47 PM, said:

I really how people complain about OP tanks and yet when they make one that isn't OP, they still complained..... make up your minds already, jeez :D

 

Because people wants somewhat balanced tanks. ELC even 90:

 

1º.Too much camo for open maps.

2º.Too bad gun for 90% of current corridor maps.

3º.Too bad tier 8 MM: 70% of time wasted against 3 tier 10 and 5 tier 9 tanks.

4º.Matched against tier 10 and 9 scouts that can reach positions faster, can outspot and oneshot or oneclip the thing.

 

WG should reconsider at least the tier 8 MM, fast.


Edited by Akathis, 08 February 2018 - 12:56 AM.


Afdass #42 Posted 08 February 2018 - 01:22 AM

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Killed one today from full HP to 0 with 2 shots in my T-10 in the first 40-50sec of the match because he rushed 2 times the same spot. Felt really bad for it :|

Cobra6 #43 Posted 08 February 2018 - 08:33 AM

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View PostNikLemos, on 07 February 2018 - 04:31 PM, said:

Yes. This is just amazing tank! I love him. It is really like old good T2 LT tank in 2012-2014. 

Yes, he is not a super duper tank like B-C 12t for example, but can out spot any vehicle in the game. 

Also, very important = he can farm a lot of credits. You choose, play with gold and no farming, or play without gold and farm credits.

Before him my main farm machine was Lorr 40t, now ELC EVEN 90!!

With coffee invisible coefficient at moving is about 49-50% !!!  It is amazing!

 

With coffee, full camo crew *AND* vents I'm only at 46,5% camo so I'm really wondering how you end up at 49%/50%, are you using a camo net?

 

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LittleLILI #44 Posted 08 February 2018 - 09:54 AM

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View PostCobra6, on 08 February 2018 - 09:33 AM, said:

 

With coffee, full camo crew *AND* vents I'm only at 46,5% camo so I'm really wondering how you end up at 49%/50%, are you using a camo net?

 

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Here is the maximum I can achieve right now : 

56.92 / 14.23

46.92 / 11.73

 

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Edited : WITHOUT the camo net, but other configs retained,it goes at :

46.92 / 11.73

46.92 / 11.73


Edited by LittleLILI, 08 February 2018 - 04:20 PM.


8126Jakobsson #45 Posted 08 February 2018 - 10:38 AM

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That's +0,5 camo for 12(!) bonds per game though. That kind of minor tweaking is a bit too extreme even for the extremes. :D



Mr_Burrows #46 Posted 08 February 2018 - 10:42 AM

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It is extremely frustrating in tier 10 battles, ending up with 2K dmg, 2K spotting, and a loss. Three times in a row now. Latest game was like this: 

 

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My WR has dropped from 63% to 58%  57%, and I just can't do a thing about it. 

 

 

 

 


Edited by Mr_Burrows, 08 February 2018 - 10:44 AM.


Cobra6 #47 Posted 08 February 2018 - 10:51 AM

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Yeah see, you can only get camo over 47% with a camo net and that is only when you are stationary.

 

47% camo means you get spotted at the minimum at something like 240m if the enemy has no special equipment or crew skills, last night I was perma-spotted by a T-54 that was about 2/3's up the viewrange circle from me, when moving. Great camo indeed *cough cough*.

 

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Mr_Burrows #48 Posted 08 February 2018 - 11:00 AM

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...and next game was this...

 

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It is extremely frustrating. 

 

THB the feeling you get, playing this tonk (at least I get it) is that whatever you do you are UP, and cannot turn a game. It does not matter what you do as long as you have to rely on useless gits on your own team. This tank starts to become the epitome of "29 vs 1". 


....and another... It feels exactly like you have to clean up someone else's mess, but only are allowed to use a toothbrush. A bucket with hot soapy water and a proper broom? Nope, you are to use a toothbrush. 

 

I am down to 56% WR now. Time to let this one rest and play arty. LeFH never fails to deliver, and can actually turn games. This tank, in my hands, can't. 

 

shot_016.jpg

 

 

 

 


 

Edited by NickMustaine, 17 February 2018 - 02:22 PM.


LittleLILI #49 Posted 08 February 2018 - 11:43 AM

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View PostMr_Burrows, on 08 February 2018 - 12:37 PM, said:

....and another... It feels exactly like you have to clean up someone else's mess, but only are allowed to use a toothbrush. A bucket with hot soapy water and a proper broom? Nope, you are to use a toothbrush. 

 

I am down to 56% WR now. Time to let this one rest and play arty. LeFH never fails to deliver, and can actually turn games. This tank, in my hands, can't. 

 

shot_016.jpg

 

 

 

 

3 times ?.... it is a bit depressive, is not it.

This feeling when you fight against Borgs, resistance is futile ...



Mr_Burrows #50 Posted 08 February 2018 - 11:58 AM

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Yep, 3 times in a row, and about 8 times today in total. Had an epic failure team on Erlenberg Assault, tier 9 fight, where I did 2440 DMG, 780 spot, and was the only one on the team getting 2 kills. In the end it was me against 4 enemies. Yeah, I lost.

 

Thing is this tank can be a nuisance, but it is not dangerous, and people have learned than. The burst dmg of about 600 and the that loooong reload... man, it just blows. They know they got you once you have fired of one round, because you only got 400 dmg left in the clip, and then need to reload for almost half a minute. 



SlyMeerkat #51 Posted 08 February 2018 - 12:46 PM

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View PostAkathis, on 07 February 2018 - 11:56 PM, said:

 

Because people wants somewhat balanced tanks. ELC even 90:

 

1º.Too much camo for open maps.

2º.Too bad gun for 90% of current corridor maps.

3º.Too bad tier 8 MM: 70% of time wasted against 3 tier 10 and 5 tier 9 tanks.

4º.Matched against tier 10 and 9 scouts that can reach positions faster, can outspot and oneshot or oneclip the thing.

 

WG should reconsider at least the tier 8 MM, fast.

 

The way i see it, i think its perfectly alright, its strictly a light tank and so the gun isn't meant to be the best thing on it and its all about the spotting, speed and camo that are its strong points (the way all light tanks are meant to be played i would of thought) and as for the rest, i dont look too deeply in to things like that and as long as i have fun in the tank, thats all that matters right?..... I sure have fun in it :)

Morgan_the_Reaper #52 Posted 08 February 2018 - 01:52 PM

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already have this little devil in my garage and this is my crew 

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Mr_Burrows #53 Posted 08 February 2018 - 07:09 PM

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...and it continues...  :confused:

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Are you supposed to carry tier X's that do zero dmg...? 

The teams of today has been ghastly. Ghastly. I'll stop venting now. 

 

 

 



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View PostMr_Burrows, on 08 February 2018 - 07:09 PM, said:

...and it continues...  :confused:

shot_017.jpg

 

Are you supposed to carry tier X's that do zero dmg...? 

The teams of today has been ghastly. Ghastly. I'll stop venting now. 

 

 

 

Not that teams are ever usually brilliant but around patch day is the absolutely the worst time to play WoT. 



Gremlin182 #55 Posted 08 February 2018 - 11:18 PM

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Its a really bad tank that I bought but haven't yet played.

What !

On paper and based on reviews its pretty awful.

However I am a collector and love light tanks and £21 was no big deal.

 

Not played it yet got other things to do in the game besides when you have an AMX 13-57 this is always going to be a pain to play by comparison.

So unless wargaming do a 180 on their light tank ideas of bad accuracy and gun handling because its not their role to deal damage it will always be a pain to play.

All tanks do on occasion have to try to win the game despite their team so all tanks need to be able to deal damage effectively.

 

The even 90 is suffering the usual problem of a big gun on a cramped tank had they made a tier 6 or 7 and called it the even 57 or even 76 it would probably had a bigger magazine much better gun handling and been a decent tank.

As a Tier 8 not so much.

 

Camouflage is fine on some maps but on many its not much use and don't forget its meeting tier 10s where tanks have 410 native view range and many players have multi skilled crews with BIA recon Situational Awareness and probably run with food.

Basically fire and you are dead.

 

So nice collectable at the moment, if it gets a much shorter magazine reload maybe 15 seconds of less, much better aim time than 2.78 and as for shell speed 760 really ? even APCR is only 950.

 


Edited by Gremlin182, 08 February 2018 - 11:20 PM.


a__m_nightmare4you #56 Posted 08 February 2018 - 11:39 PM

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Dont think its a bad tank just have different play style ;)

Enjoy in this replay: 

http://wotreplays.eu...you-elc_even_90



James_Potkukelkka #57 Posted 09 February 2018 - 02:12 AM

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View Posta__m_nightmare4you, on 08 February 2018 - 11:39 PM, said:

Dont think its a bad tank just have different play style ;)

Enjoy in this replay: 

http://wotreplays.eu...you-elc_even_90

 

It is bad tank, gun is just too crap. If ur team wont shoot targets or u are in city map, then u are *edited*. Gun is just too weak. It should have shorter drum reload maybe 20 sec, or 4 round clip, or god like gun handling like T92 have. Yeah it can be really fun to drive, but... that gun... 

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iKnewIT #58 Posted 09 February 2018 - 08:59 AM

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I've bought it...

Mea culpa, my wallet. ;)

 

Only 3 battles so far.

It's enough one the most tiny bush on any map for it, where You need two of them in a row for any other LT. ;)

Somehow I like it, but anyway, as it is seen in characteristics too, it really needs these buffs:

1. Engine,

2. Gun handling,

3. DPM (clips per reload, reload time or alpha),

to be competing with other tier 8 LT's one against one.


Edited by iKnewIT, 09 February 2018 - 11:05 AM.


Mr_Burrows #59 Posted 09 February 2018 - 01:44 PM

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This tank need preferential map-making if everything else should stay the same. 

Afdass #60 Posted 09 February 2018 - 06:58 PM

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Was thinking in buying it with a coupon I won and after seeing some replays and some indepth analysis but then I remember the struggle I have with the BC 12t in the current game meta, where 1) you fight tier 10's all the time; 2) you can't trust in your team to shoot what you spot; 3) games are over after 4/5 minutes with all this one-sided battles ending in a 15-0 or 15-2 or whatever. Decided to save myself 20€ and use them for anything else.




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