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HelpIamClaustrophobic #1 Posted 09 February 2018 - 03:31 PM

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Sorry about this post as it is a complaint send to support. But the reaction from support was that these things should be discussed on the forum to be heard. I totally disagree as it belongs to support but well. I get ignored there. So no whine intended but on request from support. So troll all you want. I won’t be here to discuss it any further.

 

A little background story. When the Maus line was changed I was on the tier 8 on the way to the Maus. They changed the Maus to another line I ended up in a line leading to a tier 10 I didn’t want at all. In the end I had to play the Tiger P for the second time to get to another tier 8 leading to the Maus again.

 

So now it is the same thing all over. I wanted to go for the 430 and painfully grinded through the no gundepression, rear turreted line to the 430II. When the changes were mentioned first the changes would be that the 416 would be removed and the 430 and 430II dropped down a tier. So fine with me. But now they moved the line completely and I can’t get to the 430 line anymore from the 430II one. I even have no tier 10 option available.

 

So I opened a ticket to support with the simple question why they didn’t do the same thing they did with the T10 and the Object in the heavy line. Where you get both tier 9’s in your garage as compensation. Or atleast give the ones with the 430II (and not the tier 10 unlocked) a unlock line to the 430 line. Or unlock the 430. Now I have to go back to the T44 which I already played and grinded. Buy it back and play it again in a broken matchmaking.



Mr_Burrows #2 Posted 09 February 2018 - 03:35 PM

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Yes it blows, and WG will do nothing about it. With me they got exactly whet they want, as I spent about 250K free XP on getting all the way to tier 10, just to get all the "free" stuff on patch day. 



Coldspell #3 Posted 09 February 2018 - 03:54 PM

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Ive got a 150k exp I have to convert to free exp with gold because I was saving to go from 416 to t-54. Probably my own fault for not scrawling through patch notes but given the line no longer has a tier 10 why remove the line changeover option?

CmdRatScabies #4 Posted 09 February 2018 - 03:56 PM

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View PostColdspell, on 09 February 2018 - 03:54 PM, said:

Ive got a 150k exp I have to convert to free exp with gold because I was saving to go from 416 to t-54. Probably my own fault for not scrawling through patch notes but given the line no longer has a tier 10 why remove the line changeover option?

 

It will have a tier 10 in a future patch.

Thrael7 #5 Posted 09 February 2018 - 04:00 PM

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I have ~72K XP on the T-43 for the same reason. I already have all russkie T9-10 mediums. T-44 was unlocked for me before I got to use the accumulated XP.

The difference between you (OP) and me is that I wanted to play the T-44,



unhappy_bunny #6 Posted 09 February 2018 - 04:13 PM

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View PostUpTheAss, on 09 February 2018 - 03:31 PM, said:

Sorry about this post as it is a complaint send to support. But the reaction from support was that these things should be discussed on the forum to be heard. I totally disagree as it belongs to support but well. I get ignored there. So no whine intended but on request from support. So troll all you want. I won’t be here to discuss it any further.

 

 

You could post it in the "current update" sub-forum. it might get fed back to WG from there.



MarcoStrapone #7 Posted 09 February 2018 - 07:59 PM

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total agree, they had to do something with that/

juonimies #8 Posted 09 February 2018 - 08:55 PM

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UpTheAss, I was in the same situation as you. I made a ticket as well and I got the same response (or reject, that is. In civilized organisations customers are not pushed from 'one hatch to another' but the instance into which reclamation is delivered transfers it to those guys in responsibility). 

 

Also I agree you that playing that bullcrap T-44 is pure masocism so I used about 130000 free experience to research that ex-patch Object 430 to get current-patch Object 430 and Object 430U researched. 

 

The most bizarre is, that ex-patch  T-10 owners got Object 257 without having to research IS-7. So Object 430II and T-10 owners were treated unevenly.

 

But this is RUSSIAN game so we cannot expect a) logic  neither b) decency from it. At least I have for long ago stopped getting surprised of what these WG dudes mess up. 

 

You have my mental support. 

 

Juonimies.

 

 



Balc0ra #9 Posted 10 February 2018 - 12:54 AM

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View PostUpTheAss, on 09 February 2018 - 03:31 PM, said:

So now it is the same thing all over. I wanted to go for the 430 and painfully grinded through the no gundepression, rear turreted line to the 430II. When the changes were mentioned first the changes would be that the 416 would be removed and the 430 and 430II dropped down a tier. So fine with me. But now they moved the line completely and I can’t get to the 430 line anymore from the 430II one. I even have no tier 10 option available.

 

They did plan the 416 removal first.. via leaks. Not officially announced by WG as such until a bit later. But then just before Xmas it was said the 416 would remain, as would the SU-100M1. And the tier X's were to be changed instead. I was on the 430 II as well then. And did use the Xmas bonuses to grind the 430 II and bought the 430 before the patch. It sucks sure. But when there are planned line changes like that. It pays to check for updates now and then, as everything is still subject to change on a dime. Even a week before the patch comes.

 

Tier X options via the T-10 and the 430 II will be available later. And if the early leaks were anything to go by. It might be worth the wait.

 

View PostUpTheAss, on 09 February 2018 - 03:31 PM, said:

So I opened a ticket to support with the simple question why they didn’t do the same thing they did with the T10 and the Object in the heavy line. Where you get both tier 9’s in your garage as compensation. Or atleast give the ones with the 430II (and not the tier 10 unlocked) a unlock line to the 430 line. Or unlock the 430. Now I have to go back to the T44 which I already played and grinded. Buy it back and play it again in a broken matchmaking.

 

They did that with the T-10, as it was the T-10 that was moved to a new line & not the tier X. Your line remains unchanged up to tier 9. Sure you might have been planing to get the 430. But it was the 430 that was the planned change on that line, and not the 430 II.  And if you don't own it, or had it unlocked. Nothing would happen for you.

 

Who knows, they might make a shortcut up to the 430 later as it would make sense. But it won't happen soon I suspect regardless. As they did not do it to the T71 lines when they split that into two separate lines. And besides, the T-44 has been buffed more or less every patch of late. So it's not that bad anymore vs other tier 8 meds. 



Cannes76 #10 Posted 10 February 2018 - 12:57 AM

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@OP How on earth have you been allowed to keep that name? :ohmy:

HelpIamClaustrophobic #11 Posted 12 February 2018 - 12:50 PM

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View PostCannes76, on 09 February 2018 - 11:57 PM, said:

@OP How on earth have you been allowed to keep that name? :ohmy:

 

​Heheh, well I didnt. About 20 mins after the post I was renameduser. So that is something they handle very fast.

 

For the answer of BalcOra: I see what you are saying and that is a typical legal answer. The fact is that if you started to get the IS7 before the patch and got to the T10 then you still are after the patch WITH an extra tank for free. When you started the medium line to get to the 430 and you got to the 430II then you are screwed. 

 

So it is easy to see that this isnt right. THe first player can continue to the IS7 without any delay/costs and have a bonus tier 9 paid for in the garage for the new T10. Versus someone who needs to buy back a T44 (or even worse starting again on the T34) to get to the line you originally going for and invested time and money on.

 

And yes. I would have posted it in the 'Current update' feedback forum but I am not allowed.






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