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logaritmusnaturalis #1 Posted 09 February 2018 - 04:58 PM

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I keep seeing threads like this come up over and over again recently. "people use aimbots", "people use cheats" etc etc, 

 

Are people mistaking snapshots for cheating and aimboting? I can imagine snapshoting being an alien thing for someone playing at 30 fps on a potato computer, maybe that's why they think it's an aimbot? 

 

Aimboting in a game like wot is pointless because the general accuracy of tanks is pretty limited, there's nothing pinpoint accurate, no AWP in wot lol. Even the most accurate guns, like swedish TD's, you cannot affect or predict where within the aimcircle the shot lands on. Basically there's too much RNG in wot for aimbots to be of much use, you will not be able to outcompete good players by using an aimbot lmao gl on that kid. You have to be really crapat aiming and leading shots for aimbots to be of any use. 

 

If you want to know how these "hackers" pull of these shots then turn down setting and get 60fps + activate server reticle, then the mystery might be solved. 



Grand_Moff_Tano #2 Posted 09 February 2018 - 04:59 PM

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Aimbots are a thing but they aren't as widespread as alot of these whiners and whingers like to make out.

Shivva #3 Posted 09 February 2018 - 05:01 PM

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In nearly 30k of games played I've seen 2 people who I would say were 100% botting. 30k games..30 folk each game, that's a pretty low percentage.

clixor #4 Posted 09 February 2018 - 05:13 PM

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View PostShivva, on 09 February 2018 - 05:01 PM, said:

In nearly 30k of games played I've seen 2 people who I would say were 100% botting. 30k games..30 folk each game, that's a pretty low percentage.

 

OP is not talking about botting, but using mods. Aimbot and the like. And ofcourse it hard to notice it, only way to really (perhaps) see if someone using it is using a replay from their perspective. Only thing i sometimes think is fishy is when a target appears, and you see guns of your teammates IMMEDIATELY point and shoot. And even than it could just be someone manually shooting.

Homer_J #5 Posted 09 February 2018 - 05:15 PM

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I sometimes get suspicious of people hitting my cupola every time I pop up but it's impossible to say if it hax or skill and either way the answer is not to pop up there any more.

Edited by Homer_J, 09 February 2018 - 05:16 PM.


Hero_of_Tython #6 Posted 09 February 2018 - 05:16 PM

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There are a group of players who can not accept that another player could get the best of them in a fight. They don't want to admit that another player could be:

a: superior to them

b: lucky

c: just played a really good single game

So they have to blame something, and often they decide it is best to blame cheating players, especially if the player that beat them had a lower wn8 than they did.

Sadly there are aim-bots in the game and some can actually make a difference by leading moving targets or targeting specific weak-points on tanks but their use is no where near as widespread as the tinfoil brigade would have you believe. 



Shivva #7 Posted 09 February 2018 - 05:17 PM

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View Postclixor, on 09 February 2018 - 04:13 PM, said:

 

OP is not talking about botting, but using mods. Aimbot and the like. And ofcourse it hard to notice it, only way to really (perhaps) see if someone using it is using a replay from their perspective. Only thing i sometimes think is fishy is when a target appears, and you see guns of your teammates IMMEDIATELY point and shoot. And even than it could just be someone manually shooting.
yeah if only the word bot was actually in the title of aimbot it would have covered what I was talking about... oh wait it is and it did. Semantics much ?..gtf

250swb #8 Posted 09 February 2018 - 05:18 PM

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Of course there are those who self justify using a cheat, but they are the aberrations of society, I think they remain a small percentage in WoT, but some people are so ultra competitive it could at a sideways glance look like cheating.

ZlatanArKung #9 Posted 09 February 2018 - 05:18 PM

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View PostChipmunk_of_Vengeance, on 09 February 2018 - 04:59 PM, said:

Aimbots are a thing but they aren't as widespread as alot of these whiners and whingers like to make out.

Or they are widespread, but since they are more or less impossible to prove and doesn't give any significant advantage,  they could be ignored.



Jigabachi #10 Posted 09 February 2018 - 05:21 PM

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This post has been edited by the moderation team due to inappropriate remarks.


Edited by Jahrakajin, 14 February 2018 - 10:48 AM.
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Grand_Moff_Tano #11 Posted 09 February 2018 - 05:21 PM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 09 February 2018 - 04:18 PM, said:

Or they are widespread, but since they are more or less impossible to prove and doesn't give any significant advantage,  they could be ignored.

 

It is easy to prove, all you need to do really is open up a replay and watch someone's gun, the gun will jerk onto a target 

 

One good example comes from youtuber DezGamez channel

 


Edited by Chipmunk_of_Vengeance, 09 February 2018 - 05:22 PM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #12 Posted 09 February 2018 - 05:23 PM

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Considering some of the shots I've pulled off that amazed even me that they hit when I was the one pulling the trigger I have no problem with getting hit with crazy shots sometimes.

 

The people that really don't get it are the ones that claim those kind of shots, hitting a full speed scout at 400+m with a KV2, for example are literally impossible without hacks. No, every shot you take lands inside your reticle. It doesn't matter if your reticle is the size of the moon and that ELC at 400m is two pixels high. So long as he's inside your reticle there's a tiny chance that shot is going to go exactly where it needs to go. Pretty bleeding unlikely I'll grant you, but those are the shots you remember not the 400 other times you spanked a shot at a distant scout and hit a different grid square.



AcheronEHJ #13 Posted 09 February 2018 - 05:24 PM

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I think it is quite hard to accurately guess who is aimbotting, running one of the mods that displays reload time, highlights turret aiming, keeps track of trees being knocked down, or pinpoints exactly where in the real world someone was last seen. All these things basically match actions that a very good/observant player can do on their own and as such, it can be hard to tell. 

 

Do I know all these things are out there being used? Absolutely. Do I know how prevalent they are? Not at all.



Kozzy #14 Posted 09 February 2018 - 05:25 PM

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Have you not noticed that it's mostly sub 50% nabs who blame everyone else for cheating.  They then install aimbots, post videos of themselves complaining about others cheating and then get banned themselves.

K_A #15 Posted 09 February 2018 - 05:30 PM

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View PostChipmunk_of_Vengeance, on 09 February 2018 - 04:21 PM, said:

 

It is easy to prove, all you need to do really is open up a replay and watch someone's gun, the gun will jerk onto a target 

 

One good example comes from youtuber DezGamez channel

 

 

They are impossible to prove unless the user is stupid enough to upload his replays somewhere. Also after a certain skill level in aiming they offer very little benefit and almost hinder you more than they help. Especially with tanks that bloom a lot with turret traverse it's better to preaim and fire at the right time to get an accurate shot than to continually lead the target, and an aimbot can only do the latter.

Grand_Moff_Tano #16 Posted 09 February 2018 - 05:31 PM

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View PostK_A, on 09 February 2018 - 04:30 PM, said:

 

They are impossible to prove unless the user is stupid enough to upload his replays somewhere. Also after a certain skill level in aiming they offer very little benefit and almost hinder you more than they help. Especially with tanks that bloom a lot with turret traverse it's better to preaim and fire at the right time to get an accurate shot than to continually lead the target, and an aimbot can only do the latter.

 

It isn't impossible to prove, yes there are players who'll post themselves aim botting, like exhibit A, but there are mods that will allow you to freely fly around the battlefield while watching a replay.

K_A #17 Posted 09 February 2018 - 05:59 PM

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View PostChipmunk_of_Vengeance, on 09 February 2018 - 04:31 PM, said:

 

It isn't impossible to prove, yes there are players who'll post themselves aim botting, like exhibit A, but there are mods that will allow you to freely fly around the battlefield while watching a replay.

 

You still don't see wherre other people's crosshairs are, so anything you see in free camera mode can just be (and in 99% of cases probably is) someone aiming at stuff manually.

Grand_Moff_Tano #18 Posted 09 February 2018 - 06:02 PM

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View PostK_A, on 09 February 2018 - 04:59 PM, said:

 

You still don't see wherre other people's crosshairs are, so anything you see in free camera mode can just be (and in 99% of cases probably is) someone aiming at stuff manually.

 

No, there are definite tells on how an aimbot reacts, so you don't actually need the other guys reticle, it is however hard to spot, but not impossible as you seem to think.

StinkyStonky #19 Posted 09 February 2018 - 06:06 PM

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It's annoying when you get shot twice and both shots take out your ammo rack and it's easy to leap to the conclusion that they are hacking.

 

But the reality is that there is a perk that improves the chances of a critical and it is inevitable that it will happen from time to time.  Especially if you have a tank that is prone to ARs and the opponent knows where best to shoot you.



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By the laws of the playground, he who smelt it, dealt it so OP is clearly the worst possible offender. End of story, grumpy face icon, as the kids say.

 

Grrr, etc. :angry:






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