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ClassXerion #1 Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:34 PM

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Hello,

Do you also think there is something missing in the Russian Techtree?

I think a new heavy line after the KV-2 with also 152mm guns to have a Opponent for the Types and O-I/Ni/Ho would be nice!

I already found some Tanks/Tank concepts that could fit: the SMK and other Versions of the KV-4 (maybe the Concept made by Michailow as Tier 8) you can find here: https://de.wikipedia.../KW-Serie#KW-4.

The tanks in that line should be similar to the KV-1,3,4,5; not like that low IS-Tanks.

I added Pictures of some of the Concepts and the SMK.

What do you think?

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Thuis001 #2 Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:36 PM

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eh how about no. Russia doesn't need more tanks. 

As for the "to counter the Japanese anime tanks" argument. Those tanks should be reworked, get their armor rebalanced and then loose their 15cm Howitzers as it is an unbalanced combo. rather then having more of those tanks.



Frostilicus #3 Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:38 PM

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Just Make the KV-5 Great Again©

 

all will be well :)

 



MeNoobTank #4 Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:41 PM

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Lolololol, IDK why but this thread looks like a troll one in response to WG's latest update of OP russian tanks introduced.

 

p.s: your thread is actually pretty dangerous, WG might consider your idea rather than fixing The already broken tanks.



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View PostMeNoobTank, on 12 February 2018 - 04:41 PM, said:

Lolololol, IDK why but this thread looks like a troll one in response to WG's latest update of OP russian tanks introduced.

 

p.s: your thread is actually pretty dangerous, WG might consider your idea rather than fixing The already broken tanks.

 



Laatikkomafia #6 Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:49 PM

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View Postvuque, on 12 February 2018 - 05:47 PM, said:

 

 

Except it isn't.

 

One can only imagine what kind of silly ideas WG might get in the future after this patch actually went live.



Junglist_ #7 Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:51 PM

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No thanks there's already too many tanks with high calibre HE guns in the game as it is.

Dava_117 #8 Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:51 PM

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I'm a fan of KV line, but I find this idea really poor. We don't need more armoured derpgun in game. All those HE are dumbing down armour mechanics. 

Also consider that KV line is a pretty good counter to jap HT up to tier 9, due to the good pen those guns have and the fairly thick armour, so even less reason to dumb down the line introducing more derps.



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View PostClassXerion, on 12 February 2018 - 04:34 PM, said:

I think a new heavy line after the KV-2 with also 152mm guns to have a Opponent for the Types and O-I/Ni/Ho would be nice!

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What do you think?

 

Sounds like a great idea :D

 

The line makes itself:

VI - KV-2: as it is now, leading on to-

VII - KV-2B: A T-150 hull with KV-2 turret/gun and slightly faster RoF, leading on to-

VIII - KV-2C: A KV-3 hull with KV-2 turret/gun, and slightly faster again RoFt, leading on to-

IX - KV-2D: A KV-4 hull with KV-2 turret/gun, and slightly faster again RoF, leading on to-

X - KV-2DD: Still a KV-4 hull with KV-2 turret but now with dual linked KV-2 guns!

 

What could go wrong? :P



Martijn_mk2 #10 Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:14 PM

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QUICK!!
Remove this topic before WG sees it :o

Penzijon3r #11 Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:32 PM

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BRING IT! We need more derp tanks.

Dr_Oolen #12 Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:53 PM

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Since i completely gave up on hoping the game would ever be balanced and learnt to embrace the pure clownfiesta that the game has become in terms of tank balance, im very much looking forward to the first regular and gold ammo proof HE autoloader. Lets hope the japanese TD line will be just that. T10 being a type 5 heavy without turret but with reinforced armor that is 330+ effective without angling, and then on top of that 3-4 shot autloader with them balanced 1400 HE prem shells.

Nishi_Kinuyo #13 Posted 12 February 2018 - 07:03 PM

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View PostDr_Oolen, on 12 February 2018 - 04:53 PM, said:

Since i completely gave up on hoping the game would ever be balanced and learnt to embrace the pure clownfiesta that the game has become in terms of tank balance, im very much looking forward to the first regular and gold ammo proof HE autoloader. Lets hope the japanese TD line will be just that. T10 being a type 5 heavy without turret but with reinforced armor that is 330+ effective without angling, and then on top of that 3-4 shot autloader with them balanced 1400 HE prem shells.

When Japan actually has enough historical tank destroyer designs already to make an entire tree.

Wargaming doesn't need to invent any fakes to make it to tier 10.

 

On the other hand, the player base is fine with fake tanks; just look at the Chinese tree.


Edited by Nishi_Kinuyo, 12 February 2018 - 07:04 PM.


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View PostClassXerion, on 12 February 2018 - 04:34 PM, said:

Hello,

Do you also think there is something missing in the Russian Techtree?

I think a new heavy line after the KV-2 with also 152mm guns to have a Opponent for the Types and O-I/Ni/Ho would be nice!

I already found some Tanks/Tank concepts that could fit: the SMK and other Versions of the KV-4 (maybe the Concept made by Michailow as Tier 8) you can find here: https://de.wikipedia.../KW-Serie#KW-4.

The tanks in that line should be similar to the KV-1,3,4,5; not like that low IS-Tanks.

I added Pictures of some of the Concepts and the SMK.

What do you think?

 

No need for additional derp lines, especially not armored ones. The Jap derp heavies are already annoying enough to fight. No need to add even more frustration into WoT.

With that said, I wouldn't mind seeing additional KV-4 designs in the game, could even make a new branch out of it. Part of why I don't understand why WG went for that rear turret line, when they got all these KV-4 designs lying around that are a bit more commonly known thanks to WoT & can serve at higher & lower tiers with some changing of armor/gun parameters.

 

English link to a bunch of KV-4 designs


Edited by UrQuan, 12 February 2018 - 11:23 PM.


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The SMK is in the other tank game that shall not be mentioned.

 

Apart from the complete faff of trying to play with two turrets using a system that gives you control of either or both turrets - whilst never being completely obvious which one of the three options you've selected - there's loads of problems with the concept;

 

1) You tend to end up playing the big gun turret, not least because it's easier, and so you may as well have brought the KV.

2) vastly different shell velocities make switching between guns and alternating shots very difficult

3) the SMK is huge, and that without arty to worry about 

4) once the novelty wears off, you'll stop playing it because of the above

5) it is stupid



8126Jakobsson #16 Posted 12 February 2018 - 11:40 PM

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Sure, why not. Build a ruski derp line from the KV-2 and snip off its arty one. The X tank will be a combo of FV4005 and Type 5. That's what's needed. Da.

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View PostClassXerion, on 12 February 2018 - 03:34 PM, said:

Hello,

Do you also think there is something missing in the Russian Techtree?

I think a new heavy line after the KV-2 with also 152mm guns to have a Opponent for the Types and O-I/Ni/Ho would be nice!

I already found some Tanks/Tank concepts that could fit: the SMK and other Versions of the KV-4 (maybe the Concept made by Michailow as Tier 8) you can find here: https://de.wikipedia.../KW-Serie#KW-4.

The tanks in that line should be similar to the KV-1,3,4,5; not like that low IS-Tanks.

I added Pictures of some of the Concepts and the SMK.

What do you think?

 

Murazor approves.

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(If my google skills didn't fail me, guy on photo is Murazor, clearly in the process of making Maus fly, otherwise poor UP thing can't compete with murder machines like T-100)


Edited by Tidal_Force, 12 February 2018 - 11:52 PM.


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View PostClassXerion, on 12 February 2018 - 03:34 PM, said:

Hello,

Do you also think there is something missing in the Russian Techtree?

I think a new heavy line after the KV-2 with also 152mm guns to have a Opponent for the Types and O-I/Ni/Ho would be nice!

I already found some Tanks/Tank concepts that could fit: the SMK and other Versions of the KV-4 (maybe the Concept made by Michailow as Tier 8) you can find here: https://de.wikipedia.../KW-Serie#KW-4.

The tanks in that line should be similar to the KV-1,3,4,5; not like that low IS-Tanks.

I added Pictures of some of the Concepts and the SMK.

What do you think?

 

Yup me 2, what about a heavy with light tank maneuverability, Maus armor with 361 pen and 521 average damage with a 4 sec reload. sounds good

MeNoobTank #19 Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:44 PM

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View PostDundato, on 13 February 2018 - 01:04 AM, said:

 

Yup me 2, what about a heavy with light tank maneuverability, Maus armor with 361 pen and 521 average damage with a 4 sec reload. sounds good

 

that thing already exist in the game. The thing is it's not classed as heavy but as a td and has longer reload speed (it clearly need a buff because is UP). It is named Obj 268 version 4 ;)



Kirk_Helmet #20 Posted 13 February 2018 - 05:10 PM

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I think we definitely need more soviet tanks in general, not only Heavy Tanks. Then we should without any hesitation add their copies to the chinese tech tree and add few new russian premium tanks at tier 8! :trollface:




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