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logaritmusnaturalis #1 Posted 15 February 2018 - 04:15 PM

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This tank is [edited]useless. IS7 gun but with 440 alpha at tier 10, it even has a bit worse gunhandling. Mobility looks good in paper but in practice it's crap, it's worse than t10. 5 degrees depression vs IS7's 6 degrees. weaker turret than is7. overall armor less reliable than IS7.  Less HP than IS7. 

 

[edited]useless piece of garbage man, it looks okay on paper, but once you own this pile of crapyou know how [edited]crapit is. 



The_Georgian_One #2 Posted 15 February 2018 - 04:17 PM

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This is why you only roll-out in it to show-off :p

Sfinski #3 Posted 15 February 2018 - 04:18 PM

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It was good when it came out. Power creep hasn't been gentle. 

fwhaatpiraat #4 Posted 15 February 2018 - 04:34 PM

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Sell it and you have a 'free' garage slot.

Simeon85 #5 Posted 15 February 2018 - 04:36 PM

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Power creep sadly, it's not crap at all, WG just power crept it with tanks like the IS7 buff, WZ-111-5A and the Obj. 430U.

 

Same as happened with the T-55A. 



s3thus #6 Posted 15 February 2018 - 04:37 PM

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This tank used to be a really solid Tier 10. And then WG decided to go *edit with absurdly overpowered new tanks.

Edited by Jbnn, 17 February 2018 - 12:14 PM.
This post has been edited by the moderation team due to inappropriate remarks.


Mentlgen #7 Posted 15 February 2018 - 04:55 PM

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Right, so if it's not op or broken then it's a crap...:sceptic:  and gun handling is better than is7. 

PzTeufel #8 Posted 15 February 2018 - 05:48 PM

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View Postlogaritmusnaturalis, on 15 February 2018 - 04:15 PM, said:

This tank is [edited]useless. IS7 gun but with 440 alpha at tier 10, it even has a bit worse gunhandling. Mobility looks good in paper but in practice it's crap, it's worse than t10. 5 degrees depression vs IS7's 6 degrees. weaker turret than is7. overall armor less reliable than IS7.  Less HP than IS7. 

 

[edited]useless piece of garbage man, it looks okay on paper, but once you own this pile of crapyou know how [edited]crapit is. 

 

That probably is a problem. But you should not complain, because a) this is a free game and b) nobody probably has forced you to play it.

 

If you buy garbage from a store with low price, you dont have too high expectancy for its quality.  


Edited by PzTeufel, 15 February 2018 - 05:49 PM.


SuedKAT #9 Posted 15 February 2018 - 05:51 PM

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View PostPzTeufel, on 15 February 2018 - 05:48 PM, said:

 

That probably is a problem. But you should not complain, because a) this is a free game and b) nobody probably has forced you to play it.

 

If you buy garbage from a store with low price, you dont have too high expectancy for its quality.  

 

You do realize that it's a reward tank right?

PzTeufel #10 Posted 15 February 2018 - 05:57 PM

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View PostSuedKAT, on 15 February 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

 

You do realize that it's a reward tank right?

 

ofcourse. This still is a free game. 



SuedKAT #11 Posted 15 February 2018 - 06:02 PM

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View PostPzTeufel, on 15 February 2018 - 05:57 PM, said:

 

ofcourse. This still is a free game. 

 

Yes it's a free game but how does that got anything to do with:

View PostPzTeufel, on 15 February 2018 - 05:48 PM, said:

 

If you buy garbage from a store with low price, you dont have too high expectancy for its quality.  

It's a reward tank so he/she didn't buy it, so what are you even on about?

View PostPzTeufel, on 15 February 2018 - 05:48 PM, said:

 

That probably is a problem. But you should not complain, because a) this is a free game and b) nobody probably has forced you to play it.

Of course he should complain, the last reward tank you get from the personal missions have been power creeped to death, a tank he got for free so again what does that have anything to do with it being a free game or him being forced to play it or not? 

 

You're making very little sense.



PoIestar #12 Posted 15 February 2018 - 06:04 PM

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It's still a beast in the right hands. I think that because people spend so much effort to get it, they expect an OP powerhouse, and this is just a slightly above average tank, and as The Georgian One said, mostly used for showing off.

Sfinski #13 Posted 15 February 2018 - 06:23 PM

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View PostPoIestar, on 15 February 2018 - 07:04 PM, said:

It's still a beast in the right hands. I think that because people spend so much effort to get it, they expect an OP powerhouse, and this is just a slightly above average tank, and as The Georgian One said, mostly used for showing off.

 

Slightly above average? What? There are not many worse tanks at t10 than it. Well below average I'd say.

Celution #14 Posted 15 February 2018 - 06:41 PM

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It used to be the a great hybrid between the IS-7 and IS-4, but with the buffs to the 121, 113 and IS-7, introduction of the WZ-111 5A and now the 430U, there is just no point in playing it.

juonimies #15 Posted 16 February 2018 - 06:29 AM

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Now when he has played it, he has recognized the whole business idea of WG: 

 

1. Introduce good tanks

 

2. Advertize them and make people to pay for them. 

 

3. After many enough players have those tanks in their garage, nerf them or make better tanks which outclass these current ones. 

 

4. Go back to #2. 

 

During process, use server settings and failed team assignments to make "games" so short as possible to maximize demand of repair and consumables. 


Edited by juonimies, 17 February 2018 - 10:24 AM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #16 Posted 16 February 2018 - 07:23 AM

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View Postlogaritmusnaturalis, on 15 February 2018 - 05:15 PM, said:

This tank is [edited]useless. IS7 gun but with 440 alpha at tier 10, it even has a bit worse gunhandling. Mobility looks good in paper but in practice it's crap, it's worse than t10. 5 degrees depression vs IS7's 6 degrees. weaker turret than is7. overall armor less reliable than IS7.  Less HP than IS7. 

 

[edited]useless piece of garbage man, it looks okay on paper, but once you own this pile of crapyou know how [edited]crapit is. 

 

Tell us something, some situation were it was found lacking, give your claim some life man!

Simeon85 #17 Posted 16 February 2018 - 09:27 AM

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Considering the pain of the missions and it's the top tier reward it should be good, not OP, but amongst the best tanks on tier.

 

When it came out it was, sadly now it isn't. 

 

Really we need to dial back the powercreep and it would be fine, it;s the same issue with the E100 and other decently balanced tier 10 tanks, they are well balanced but other tanks have just pushed away from them with unnecessary buffs, but that is unlikley to happen, but it's also unlikely WG will buff it because it has limited data, most of the players who have one will be good and that skews the stats.

 

It would be nice if they removed the overmatch spots, roof and hull, to at least 45mm so you'd need 150mm guns, it already has a lower plate and a cupola, so not sure why it needs effectively four frontal weakspots.

 

A little buff to the DPM and hit points would also be good I reckon, you don't want to go too overboard because you are just creating more powercreep. 



Amun_RA #18 Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:26 AM

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View PostSimeon85, on 16 February 2018 - 08:27 AM, said:

Considering the pain of the missions and it's the top tier reward it should be good, not OP, but amongst the best tanks on tier.

 

When it came out it was, sadly now it isn't. 

 

Really we need to dial back the powercreep and it would be fine, it;s the same issue with the E100 and other decently balanced tier 10 tanks, they are well balanced but other tanks have just pushed away from them with unnecessary buffs, but that is unlikley to happen, but it's also unlikely WG will buff it because it has limited data, most of the players who have one will be good and that skews the stats.

 

It would be nice if they removed the overmatch spots, roof and hull, to at least 45mm so you'd need 150mm guns, it already has a lower plate and a cupola, so not sure why it needs effectively four frontal weakspots.

 

A little buff to the DPM and hit points would also be good I reckon, you don't want to go too overboard because you are just creating more powercreep. 

 

I agree. It really needs some armor buffs and maybe - 6 gun depression 



Dex022 #19 Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:56 AM

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I wouldn't say it is pile of you know what but it needs buffs just because it was very hard to get.

260 was nice reward tank,not op. Now it is just very pointless to play.

Today i would not even consider playing those missions for this tank after massive power creep and not to mention last we buff rashaaa patch and we introduce balanced 284-v4 and 430U tanks.

What is the point of 260 when 430U can do everything better??? Better dpm,better armor,better mobility,better camo. Better everything. 

On that,there is no point of playing half of tier10 after 430U but this is about 260.

Yes,it needs buff. About everything on tank needs buff except armor i would say.



9igor4 #20 Posted 17 February 2018 - 10:27 AM

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I have obj 260 and for me this is best heavy tank. This topic is crap....




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