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Amun_RA #1 Posted 17 February 2018 - 02:22 AM

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I think many people would agree with me that Object 260 is not better than IS7 or some other tier 10 heavies but on the contrary. The armor is pretty crap overall although on paper it does sound good and the - 5 degrees of gun depression combined with the fact that this tank is pretty tall kills the fun out of this reward tank. And, being a heavy, it turns like a whale. The gun handling is awesome (it can snipe very well) and it is fast in straight line.

 

I think a buff to this tank's armor or at least gun depression is very necessary especially considering how hard it is to get it and how annoying it is to not be able to use it as a competitive tank or just to have fun.

 

Please tell me what you think (I would appreciate it if you commented only if you have played the tank). 


Edited by Amun_RA, 17 February 2018 - 02:27 AM.


K_A #2 Posted 17 February 2018 - 02:36 AM

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Don't have it, haven't seen a lot of them in battle so I wouldn't know, but just by judging by the fact that I haven't seen many, it can't be very competitive.

stormermp #3 Posted 17 February 2018 - 03:25 AM

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View PostAmun_RA, on 17 February 2018 - 01:22 AM, said:

I think many people would agree with me that Object 260 is not better than IS7 or some other tier 10 heavies but on the contrary. The armor is pretty crap overall although on paper it does sound good and the - 5 degrees of gun depression combined with the fact that this tank is pretty tall kills the fun out of this reward tank. And, being a heavy, it turns like a whale. The gun handling is awesome (it can snipe very well) and it is fast in straight line.

 

I think a buff to this tank's armor or at least gun depression is very necessary especially considering how hard it is to get it and how annoying it is to not be able to use it as a competitive tank or just to have fun.

 

Please tell me what you think (I would appreciate it if you commented only if you have played the tank). 

 

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Edited by Asklepi0s, 19 February 2018 - 03:47 PM.
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StillNoName #4 Posted 17 February 2018 - 03:28 AM

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Would be nice if it had -1 more gun depression but just nice not that it cannot survive without it..  other than that  - no it's fine. It suffers FAME syndrome in that arty like to hump it because 260 is 260 and some yolo/rush you even at the cost of their game and their win just to kill the 260 but it's not that widespread. 

 

 


Edited by DaMP13R, 17 February 2018 - 03:31 AM.


Exozen #5 Posted 17 February 2018 - 04:56 AM

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I'ts already imho better then the IS-7 , you trade armor for speed and its not like the IS-7's front armor is anyting to write home about these days , but it's gun is way better and the speed more makes up for the flaws , but its also a high skill ceiling tank , bad players plays it bad and good players plays it good.

Dex022 #6 Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:46 AM

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It needs little more shells,-6 gun depression and maybe 100-200hp more to be on pair with other T10 after last 2.years power creep by wg. 

No armor buff but these things. :great:

Let's be real here. This is not some tech tree tank that you can afk get eventually but tank that has to be grinded by completing one of the most retarded rng sets of missions. 

So yeah,it should be better then it is now.

Simple as that.

 

 


Edited by Dex022, 17 February 2018 - 09:23 AM.


Amun_RA #7 Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:07 AM

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View Poststormermp, on 17 February 2018 - 02:25 AM, said:

 

Edited 

 

Thank you very much for your kind post :)

 

BTW, grammatically  correct is 'needS buffs'. 


Edited by Asklepi0s, 19 February 2018 - 04:08 PM.


Zinomov #8 Posted 17 February 2018 - 11:36 AM

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i haven't played the tank tbh, i'm acutally owning a T-55A, but when looking at the 3D model, it actually can't use an extra degree of gun depretion, 5° is all it can get
but if you want to tweak it a little bit than i suggest the following changes :

- increase the coupola armor from 120 mm to about 170 mm

- change the shell coast from 1180 to 1080 credit per shot

- since the tank is lighter than an IS-7 i suggest to boost the traverse speed of the tank from 28°/s to 36°/s

 

this should fix it



Jumping_Turtle #9 Posted 17 February 2018 - 11:46 AM

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So you wrote in the other topic about this and thought lets make amother topic about this ......

And no, it doesnt need buffs. The others need a nerf more.

Zinomov #10 Posted 17 February 2018 - 11:48 AM

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true, many tanks requires nerf

Dex022 #11 Posted 17 February 2018 - 12:37 PM

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I don't mind other tanks be nerfed but since i doubt it will happen then this tank should be buffed because any t10 grind is nothing compared to missions for 260 and tank is now average or even below average and should be at list good for today meta.

HundeWurst #12 Posted 17 February 2018 - 01:29 PM

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For me the following buffs would be in line - keep in mind they go along with the new powercreep:

 

Reloadtime from 5.5 by 0.5 to 6 rounds per minute.

Hull traverse buffed by 10%

Armor:

Hull roof of the first half of the tank increased from 20 by 30 to 50mm. Its just stupid that there is so much area on that tank any tank with any penetration can just penetrate.

Gun mantlet buffed from 250 by 100 to 350mm (Yet again... Shoot weakspots and not some random spots on a tank and hope to penetrate.)

Turret roof armor increased from 20 by 35 to 55 mm. Get rid of the entire roof being overmatchable.

Comanders cupola - more visibale, 230mm effective armor and a reliable penetration - Aim and hit the cupola = penetration, miss = no damage.

 

That should "fix" that tank without making it op. Ofc compared to many left behind vehicles its going to be better, but considering the current MASSIVE powercreep it should do the trick and make the Obj. 260 at least worthwhile again.



brumbarr #13 Posted 17 February 2018 - 01:35 PM

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View PostWunderWurst, on 17 February 2018 - 01:29 PM, said:

For me the following buffs would be in line - keep in mind they go along with the new powercreep:

 

Reloadtime from 5.5 by 0.5 to 6 rounds per minute.

Hull traverse buffed by 10%

Armor:

Hull roof of the first half of the tank increased from 20 by 30 to 50mm. Its just stupid that there is so much area on that tank any tank with any penetration can just penetrate.

Gun mantlet buffed from 250 by 100 to 350mm (Yet again... Shoot weakspots and not some random spots on a tank and hope to penetrate.)

Turret roof armor increased from 20 by 35 to 55 mm. Get rid of the entire roof being overmatchable.

Comanders cupola - more visibale, 230mm effective armor and a reliable penetration - Aim and hit the cupola = penetration, miss = no damage.

 

That should "fix" that tank without making it op. Ofc compared to many left behind vehicles its going to be better, but considering the current MASSIVE powercreep it should do the trick and make the Obj. 260 at least worthwhile again.

It also needs more depression, -5 on a tall tank like that is horrible.



SpartA_1ah1 #14 Posted 17 February 2018 - 03:24 PM

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first - 260 was like IS-7 but less amor and better gun, now when WG buffed IS-7 gun and Health to 2400 you need to buff 260 Health to 2350 like IS-7 (just more hp 250)

second - 260 and 113 was have some similarity but after 9.20 WG buffed 113 gun depression to -7 so i think you need to buff 260 gun depression to -6 all around

 

some late tanks have Turrets without overmatch roof why 260 have one

please consider these changes 

 


Edited by 1ah1ksa, 17 February 2018 - 10:13 PM.


TheWarrener #15 Posted 17 February 2018 - 03:29 PM

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hOw AbOuT wE nErF bRoKeN sUpErHeAvIeS iNsTeAd oF bUfFiNg ViRtUaLlY eVeRyThInG iN tHe gAmE

Amun_RA #16 Posted 17 February 2018 - 04:57 PM

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 17 February 2018 - 10:46 AM, said:

So you wrote in the other topic about this and thought lets make amother topic about this ......

And no, it doesnt need buffs. The others need a nerf more.

 

I hadn't seen the other post at the moment of writing this one. It happens. 

HundeWurst #17 Posted 17 February 2018 - 06:04 PM

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View PostTheWarrener, on 17 February 2018 - 03:29 PM, said:

hOw AbOuT wE nErF bRoKeN sUpErHeAvIeS iNsTeAd oF bUfFiNg ViRtUaLlY eVeRyThInG iN tHe gAmE

 

well that train left the sation a long time ago. Its not like pretty much everyone is saying that for ages now. However Wargaming incists on just buffs.

vasilinhorulezz #18 Posted 17 February 2018 - 06:47 PM

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View PostTheWarrener, on 17 February 2018 - 03:29 PM, said:

hOw AbOuT wE nErF bRoKeN sUpErHeAvIeS iNsTeAd oF bUfFiNg ViRtUaLlY eVeRyThInG with armor iN tHe gAmE

FTFY



vasilinhorulezz #19 Posted 17 February 2018 - 06:49 PM

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View PostAmun_RA, on 17 February 2018 - 02:22 AM, said:

I think many people would agree with me that Object 260 is not better than IS7 or some other tier 10 heavies but on the contrary. The armor is pretty crap overall although on paper it does sound good and the - 5 degrees of gun depression combined with the fact that this tank is pretty tall kills the fun out of this reward tank. And, being a heavy, it turns like a whale. The gun handling is awesome (it can snipe very well) and it is fast in straight line.

 

I think a buff to this tank's armor or at least gun depression is very necessary especially considering how hard it is to get it and how annoying it is to not be able to use it as a competitive tank or just to have fun.

 

Please tell me what you think (I would appreciate it if you commented only if you have played the tank). 

 

Give it turret armor and 10 degrees of gun depression.

It worked for the Conquerors.

:trollface::popcorn::trollface::popcorn:

 



SpartA_1ah1 #20 Posted 18 February 2018 - 08:52 AM

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260 was hard reward tank

now IS-7 after the buff its has Mobility as good as 260 , better armor and higher Health

same speed and Reverse speed

 

 

 

 

 






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