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Jumping_Turtle #21 Posted 18 February 2018 - 08:55 AM

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Its perfectly in line with the other three reward tanks that are not that good also. Why didnt you all ask for changes for them also ?

SpartA_1ah1 #22 Posted 18 February 2018 - 09:16 AM

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 18 February 2018 - 08:55 AM, said:

Its perfectly in line with the other three reward tanks that are not that good also. Why didnt you all ask for changes for them also ?

 

we want to ask for all the reward tanks but every one knows if you ask to much no one will listen

so at least object 260



ValkyrionX #23 Posted 18 February 2018 - 09:35 AM

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yes OP , the obj260 need some buffs , currently it seems to play the T10 tier 9 and not a tier X 

 

 

-     gun depression buff from -5  to -7 (like the 113 gun depression)

-     hp buff , from 2100 hp to 2250/2300

-     the reload time its simply horrible..almost 10 secs with normal equipments and +2800 of dmp are not good for multi-role heavy/medium tank like the obj260

-     this tank need more dpm from 2800 to 3100 dmg x minute and a reload time of 8.50s (similar to the t110e5 dpm) 

-     more armor on the frontal part of the hull and on turret and the removal (like on the is4) of the stupid overmatch on the roof of the turret cause is a retarded-nosense weakspot

-     -0,20 secs of aim time

-     basic dispersion from 0,35 to 0,33

-    + 5 shells in the hold ammunition , finishing almost every game ammunition does not make sense

 

 

 


Amun_RA #24 Posted 18 February 2018 - 03:15 PM

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 18 February 2018 - 07:55 AM, said:

Its perfectly in line with the other three reward tanks that are not that good also. Why didnt you all ask for changes for them also ?

 

Personally I think T-55A and T28HTC are pretty good for their tier. T-55A has great gun and T28 has great armor.  On the other hand, Object 260 is pretty bad in its own tier. 



SpartA_1ah1 #25 Posted 18 February 2018 - 03:40 PM

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View PostAmun_RA, on 18 February 2018 - 03:15 PM, said:

 

Personally I think T-55A and T28HTC are pretty good for their tier. T-55A has great gun and T28 has great armor.  On the other hand, Object 260 is pretty bad in its own tier. 

 

you are right

Volatile_Squirrel #26 Posted 18 February 2018 - 04:50 PM

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Again, I don't have this tank.

 

But I can check statistics on vbaddict and see that... waaaat? Object 260 has win ratio of 57.17%?? Next tier 10 heavy in line (object 705A) has "only" 53.53%.

 

Nope. Sorry. You didn't convince me. If anything this tank clearly needs nerf.



brumbarr #27 Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:49 PM

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View PostVolatile_Squirrel, on 18 February 2018 - 04:50 PM, said:

Again, I don't have this tank.

 

But I can check statistics on vbaddict and see that... waaaat? Object 260 has win ratio of 57.17%?? Next tier 10 heavy in line (object 705A) has "only" 53.53%.

 

Nope. Sorry. You didn't convince me. If anything this tank clearly needs nerf.

Did you even think for 2 secs about those statistics.



Amun_RA #28 Posted 19 February 2018 - 09:35 AM

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View PostVolatile_Squirrel, on 18 February 2018 - 03:50 PM, said:

Again, I don't have this tank.

 

But I can check statistics on vbaddict and see that... waaaat? Object 260 has win ratio of 57.17%?? Next tier 10 heavy in line (object 705A) has "only" 53.53%.

 

Nope. Sorry. You didn't convince me. If anything this tank clearly needs nerf.

 

IT matters a lot if only good players play a tank. So that is the explanation. But the tank is not OP, on the contrary. 



Simeon85 #29 Posted 19 February 2018 - 11:29 AM

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View PostExozen, on 17 February 2018 - 04:56 AM, said:

I'ts already imho better then the IS-7 , you trade armor for speed and its not like the IS-7's front armor is anyting to write home about these days , but it's gun is way better and the speed more makes up for the flaws , but its also a high skill ceiling tank , bad players plays it bad and good players plays it good.

 

This was true before the IS7 got buffed but now the IS7 has very similar speed and arguably better gun handling, whilst having the much better armour. 

 

The differences between the IS7 and 260 used to be clear, but the IS7 got it's hp/ton and gun handling buffed which made the differences minimal whilst the IS7 still has it's advantages of alpha, armour and now hit points.

 

 



Amun_RA #30 Posted 21 February 2018 - 10:34 AM

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View PostSimeon85, on 19 February 2018 - 10:29 AM, said:

 

This was true before the IS7 got buffed but now the IS7 has very similar speed and arguably better gun handling, whilst having the much better armour. 

 

The differences between the IS7 and 260 used to be clear, but the IS7 got it's hp/ton and gun handling buffed which made the differences minimal whilst the IS7 still has it's advantages of alpha, armour and now hit points.

 

 

 

What I dislike the most about this tank are - 5 gun depression combined with the fact that the tank is tall and the fact that is made irrelevant when meeting Type 5 Heavy which has tons of armor and does not need to aim week spots on your tank. 



adameitas #31 Posted 21 February 2018 - 10:46 AM

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well 260 is still probably best tier by tier of all those 4 (i guess so since i dont have a tank). When you think about other 3.. stug is pointless: weak, boring and dont even earn creds (there plenty of german prem tds that can earn them)... t28 is a bit better but still very very sluggish, hard to play many games in a row and thats is what you needed when you grind a crew.. I needed like few months to get e3 crew from 90 to 100.. bc i simply couldnt force myself to play it more then 1-2 times per day... t55a is not bad tank, but again it dont earn creds and to grind fresh crew in t9 isnt good idea. On top of that we have plenty of german prem mediums in game. To play for fun that tank is quite expensive.. 

PervyPastryPuffer #32 Posted 21 February 2018 - 10:46 AM

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I just got the Obj. 260 last night, played 3 battles... won them all... average damage across them was 3.5k... I know that's not valid for a realistic average result but if it keeps going like this for me, thinking it needs a buff will be the last thing on my mind.

Simeon85 #33 Posted 21 February 2018 - 11:20 AM

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View PostAmun_RA, on 21 February 2018 - 10:34 AM, said:

 

What I dislike the most about this tank are - 5 gun depression combined with the fact that the tank is tall and the fact that is made irrelevant when meeting Type 5 Heavy which has tons of armor and does not need to aim week spots on your tank. 

 

Gun depression is workable, not sure it needs a buff there, the tank is just not able to fight super heavies like the Type 5, too many weakspots, thin armour and you basically have to spam premium at them.

 

Obj. 260 works best as a medium/lower tier bully, in decent MM you push a flank hard using your speed, don't give enemies time to aim at your armour and just bully little tanks till you overwhelm a flank.

 

All tier 10 MM it struggles because it has been power crept. The 430U is a straight up better tank for example, even though it's a medium. 



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View PostVolatile_Squirrel, on 18 February 2018 - 03:50 PM, said:

Again, I don't have this tank.

 

But I can check statistics on vbaddict and see that... waaaat? Object 260 has win ratio of 57.17%?? Next tier 10 heavy in line (object 705A) has "only" 53.53%.

 

Nope. Sorry. You didn't convince me. If anything this tank clearly needs nerf.

 

Your dumb logic , are you working in WG office somehow ? The obj its played by good and unicum players you bright minded human ..... You are like WG , buffing is7 beacouse it become a bit overdated and in statics looked bad , but with mineor changes it was like the obj. I told this when the patch comes out with buff of t54 and is7 , the 2 reward tanks lost their meaning.

Jesus no wonder why 80 % of this playerbase have 42 % winrate.


Edited by Synopsis0, 21 February 2018 - 03:53 PM.


demon_tank #35 Posted 21 February 2018 - 04:29 PM

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It needs a minor buff.

 

WZ 5A is better and so is the 113.

 

And for the amount of effort a player needs to put in the game to aquire it they better buff it.

 

Gun depression increase from 5 degrees to 6.

ROF increase from 5,22 to 5,5.

HP pool increase from 2100 to 2250.

Possibly fix the turret roof overmatch also.


And the tank is golden.


Edited by demon_tank, 21 February 2018 - 04:29 PM.


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View PostExozen, on 17 February 2018 - 03:56 AM, said:

I'ts already imho better then the IS-7 , you trade armor for speed and its not like the IS-7's front armor is anyting to write home about these days , but it's gun is way better and the speed more makes up for the flaws , but its also a high skill ceiling tank , bad players plays it bad and good players plays it good.

 

Strange. Your stats are good but you comment like a tomato. IS7 has an impenetrable turret, smaller LFP, black hole sides and you tell me "armor is nothing to wrote home about"? How is best turret in the game "meh" for you? Also is7 has more alpha and much better gun handing. . Also is7 is faster than it was before so it's not slower than obj260 anymore. 

LittleLILI #37 Posted 21 February 2018 - 06:22 PM

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I would simply love to be able to trade-in my obj 260 for an obj 907 ...

Synopsis0 #38 Posted 21 February 2018 - 06:53 PM

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View PostLittleLILI, on 21 February 2018 - 05:22 PM, said:

I would simply love to be able to trade-in my obj 260 for an obj 907 ...

 

and what exactly has to do that with this topic ?

LittleLILI #39 Posted 21 February 2018 - 07:09 PM

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View PostSynopsis0, on 21 February 2018 - 07:53 PM, said:

 

and what exactly has to do that with this topic ?

The OP asked :

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 Please tell me what you think (I would appreciate it if you commented only if you have played the tank). 

 So, having an obj 260, and not feeling it great, and worth the time and huge efforts, I comply with the topic, i.e. what the OP asks for : "what do you think" ?

 

And you? You have no obj260, so why do you comment as it is not what the topic opener asks... "(I would appreciate it if you commented only if you have played the tank "

 


Edited by LittleLILI, 21 February 2018 - 07:13 PM.


Bucifel #40 Posted 21 February 2018 - 11:15 PM

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sure...just remove more weakpoints instead of nerfing broken imbecile new tanks and make this game FULL P2W !!

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great ideas

 

what about ADDING weakpoins on all others (adding back on mostly cases) instead of buffing 260 cupola or roof??

 

a?? what about this??

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Edited by Bucifel, 21 February 2018 - 11:16 PM.





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