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Zinomov #1 Posted 20 February 2018 - 09:18 PM

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Heavy Tanks

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Medium Tanks

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Light Tanks

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Tank Destroyers

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Edited by Zinomov, 22 February 2018 - 01:40 PM.


gunslingerXXX #2 Posted 20 February 2018 - 09:33 PM

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And perhaps nerf the rest?

djuro900 #3 Posted 20 February 2018 - 09:38 PM

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I dont think it needs any buffs or nerfs its ugly but awesome tank

Simeon85 #4 Posted 21 February 2018 - 10:32 AM

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All lights need their accuracy buffed.

 

Not sure why the LTG needs particular buffs, looks like a pretty solid light tank. 



Kurat666 #5 Posted 21 February 2018 - 10:42 AM

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As the rasha medium tanks should be close/medium range tanks LIKE THE AMX30, why the pen difference? They should actually nerf rasha meds, not buff the AMX line. That would give some life to "sniper tanks", like Leo1 and E50M

 

EDIT: i do not take into account latest up-armoring of thanks in this post - I point out the pen difference in tanks that should have the same task in a game


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Zinomov #6 Posted 21 February 2018 - 03:59 PM

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new vehicles added

 

sorry if i diden't put them before, but i had some problems with the internet

 

let me know what you think, and tell me if i forgot any tank 


Edited by Zinomov, 21 February 2018 - 04:04 PM.


Bucifel #7 Posted 21 February 2018 - 04:05 PM

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I guess youre a bit delirious here....

heavys need buff??? :facepalm:

 

430u need only cupolas nerfed?? What about UFP?

 

and 268-4 all those improvements without reducing speed and frontal armor??

 

no thx...this time you failed your rebalance

 

 



Strizi #8 Posted 21 February 2018 - 04:06 PM

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Why would you buff the IS7? Its already overbuffed and idiot proof. And 140 and 907 should finally be nerfed but that will never happen with current balancing team.

Balc0ra #9 Posted 21 February 2018 - 04:18 PM

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Most of those don't need more buffs on the HT's. You could argue on the 260 tho. And only one medium has issues? Rest if fine? Lights could use a view range buff. But generally they are fine. LTG is actually rather solid all round. 

Zinomov #10 Posted 21 February 2018 - 04:22 PM

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View PostBucifel, on 21 February 2018 - 04:05 PM, said:

I guess youre a bit delirious here....

heavys need buff??? :facepalm:

 

430u need only cupolas nerfed?? What about UFP?

 

and 268-4 all those improvements without reducing speed and frontal armor??

 

no thx...this time you failed your rebalance

 

 

 

reducing the 268 engine ? bruh this branch was made to be a fast assault TD branch, so no

i reduced the view port to 120 mm just like the other 268 versions which will make it easely penetrated by accurate guns, aswell as reducing the armour of the super structure by 10 mm to allow HEAT shells to go through it without any problem when the tank is facing u directly

 

for the 430U the coupolas are the only problem, the rest is fine, i mean who is dumb enough to fire at an UFP ? you maybe ... remember the E50M ? it has 150 mm of upper plate armour, but i never wanted it to be nerfed in any way, indeed it has a weak turret, but still, its a strong tank in its own terms

 

for the heavies all i buffed were the IS-4 line as they are quite weak in term of dispersions, if you don't believe me go to tanks.gg

 

and about the 705 and 705A, most of you cry out saying they are OP, but if you ever drived those things you would notice that their upper plate is easely penned at short range, why ? cuz the tank is short, and most tanks in this game are tall with good gun depresion, thus they can aim down on your upper plate and reduce its effectiveness to about 245 to 260 mm, which almost every tier 10 tank has these days -_- + the track is simply horrible, you can't sidescrape correctly all the time

 

 



ArkSyve #11 Posted 21 February 2018 - 04:32 PM

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Undercover WG employee detected.:trollface:

need moar russian bias xaxaxa



Dava_117 #12 Posted 21 February 2018 - 04:35 PM

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IMO IS-7, 705 and 705A don't need any buff.

Also for LTG i would just substitute the guns with the one on T-34-85 (that are actually the same so you have to research them 2 times).

Everything else looks fine to me.



Zinomov #13 Posted 21 February 2018 - 04:47 PM

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update :

Object 705A / Object 705 / IS-7 

were removed from the list



leggasiini #14 Posted 21 February 2018 - 04:59 PM

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LT changes I kinda agree with.

 

IS-4 line changes also look good, especially when there is no armor buffs involved. I think with current powercreep the buffs on the IS-4 might not be enough, sadly.

 

Any nerf to 268 V4 is good, and the gun becomes comfier I guess, so its something.



hasnainrakha57 #15 Posted 21 February 2018 - 05:04 PM

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Nerf are ok but buffs should be turned into nerf also as for 100lt its the op tier 10 light as compared to other tier 10 lights and 1st thing is to be done something about obj 268.

Bucifel #16 Posted 21 February 2018 - 06:14 PM

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View PostZinomov, on 21 February 2018 - 04:22 PM, said:

 

reducing the 268 engine ? bruh this branch was made to be a fast assault TD branch, so no

i reduced the view port to 120 mm just like the other 268 versions which will make it easely penetrated by accurate guns, aswell as reducing the armour of the super structure by 10 mm to allow HEAT shells to go through it without any problem when the tank is facing u directly

 

for the 430U the coupolas are the only problem, the rest is fine, i mean who is dumb enough to fire at an UFP ? you maybe ... remember the E50M ? it has 150 mm of upper plate armour, but i never wanted it to be nerfed in any way, indeed it has a weak turret, but still, its a strong tank in its own terms

 

for the heavies all i buffed were the IS-4 line as they are quite weak in term of dispersions, if you don't believe me go to tanks.gg

 

and about the 705 and 705A, most of you cry out saying they are OP, but if you ever drived those things you would notice that their upper plate is easely penned at short range, why ? cuz the tank is short, and most tanks in this game are tall with good gun depresion, thus they can aim down on your upper plate and reduce its effectiveness to about 245 to 260 mm, which almost every tier 10 tank has these days -_- + the track is simply horrible, you can't sidescrape correctly all the time

 

 

 

ah...is good that you want to improve game and still try to give some feedback for WG

but you fail to understand balance a bit..

 

268

i didnt said something about engine, i said about speed. That means top speed. Its simply idiotic to have a TD with that armor and decent gun wich is FASTER than mediums.

after that only a very small weakpoint is NOT ENOUGH when all others with simmilar characteristics have 2 or even 3 weakpoints and almost ALL bigger than this view port.

That means LFP (not midd plate wich is 300mm) should be a true weakpoint too, even overmatchable because its so small and easy to hide.

superstructure is not the case since you talk about p2w ammo. A weakpoint wich is weak only for gold is NOT a weakpoint.

Just because others have this "weakpoint" doesnt mean thats a good thing. Thats just a WG p2w "mistake" what should be FIXED not encouraged.

 

about 430U youre wrong as WG itself

really...who is "dumb" enough to shoot at Mediums UFP..? EVERYONE since ALL others with low profile and enough agility have weak enough hulls, only exception being E50M but this tank is FAT, BIG, LESS AGILE than others and WHOLE turret is weak in exchange.

After that some HEAVYS have weaker UFP than this medium turd and you consider it OK when you want rebalance. :facepalm:

 

nah..you removed others but you wanted buff for already overbufed IS7 and for new 705A wich is already better than most others.

 

And sorry about last part...but i think that you talk about gold ammo again...so NO THX again.

Something what is weak only for P2W ammo is NOT BALANCED !


Edited by Bucifel, 21 February 2018 - 06:24 PM.


Zinomov #17 Posted 21 February 2018 - 07:45 PM

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has anyone information about other 268 versions ? i mean the version 2 and 3

if anyone find some pics

that would help massively

 

nevermind, i got it : http://tankarchives....destroyers.html

 

take a look at this : http://forum.worldof...8#entry15433678


Edited by Zinomov, 21 February 2018 - 07:59 PM.


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View PostArkSyve, on 21 February 2018 - 04:32 PM, said:

Undercover WG employee detected.:trollface:

need moar russian bias xaxaxa

 

make RASHA tonk strongerer comrade da :teethhappy:

Dava_117 #19 Posted 21 February 2018 - 08:12 PM

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View PostZinomov, on 21 February 2018 - 07:45 PM, said:

has anyone information about other 268 versions ? i mean the version 2 and 3

if anyone find some pics

that would help massively

 

There is the model of a version 5 in game. It's a turreted TD. Looks quite balanced too...



Zinomov #20 Posted 21 February 2018 - 08:18 PM

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nevermind, i got it : http://tankarchives....destroyers.html


Edited by Zinomov, 21 February 2018 - 08:54 PM.





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