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mollethepro #1 Posted 21 February 2018 - 05:39 PM

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its worse than the s1 in every way, tried it on test server and i was amazed how realy crapthe oodes is.

 

yeye better camo. still gets spotted anywhere.



Thuis001 #2 Posted 21 February 2018 - 05:57 PM

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Think it is just you playing bad XD. Have a nice day.

blaster1112 #3 Posted 21 February 2018 - 05:58 PM

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Yes it's slower in siege mode and has a slightly lower DPM (0.1s slower reload in siege mode), as well as having No armor whatsoever.

But Its more accurate (0.3 vs 0.25 in siege mode). Though it takes slightly longer to aim (due to the higher dispersion.

The camo rating is also slighly Higher on the Udes. (26.1/15.7/5.87) vs (24.05/14.42/5.03) with 100% crew and no skills.

Its also faster outside of siege mode and it can aim better outside of siege mode due to having gun elevation while out of siege mode.

 

So all in all it doesn't really need a buff.

+ Camo

+ Speed

+ Gun in travel mode

+ Accuracy

- RoF (slighly, as in 0.1s)

- Speed in siege

- Armor (no bouncing unless extremely lucky).

- Aim time in siege mode. (still short as hell but the soft stats are worse, 0.2 vs 0.01)

 

It resembles more of a sniper, cause at long range the armor doesn't play a role, while the camo rating does. The extra mobility allows you to run away when needed.



DuncaN_101 #4 Posted 21 February 2018 - 05:59 PM

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Pebkac I'd say

RamRaid90 #5 Posted 21 February 2018 - 06:00 PM

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Problem sits between keyboard and chair.

 

Nowhere else.



blaster1112 #6 Posted 21 February 2018 - 06:00 PM

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View Postmollethepro, on 21 February 2018 - 05:39 PM, said:

its worse than the s1 in every way, tried it on test server and i was amazed how realy crapthe oodes is.

 

yeye better camo. still gets spotted anywhere.

 

That's you, not the machine. With a good crew the camo rating exceeds 65% which is ridiculous. Getting you only spotted when firing from a bad position.



mollethepro #7 Posted 21 February 2018 - 06:00 PM

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yea im bad but i was playing way better with s1

the udes can only bounce lower tiered tanks and maby some tier 8's while the S1 can bounce quite a bit. its way more accurate, faster aim time and more.

 

the only outstanding things of the udes is camo and speed. basicaly a light tank with a fixed gun and a giant handicap.



mollethepro #8 Posted 21 February 2018 - 06:02 PM

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i dont think it fits the line, no armour and bad aim time, just take a look at the 103 0 and 103 b. same kind but WAY diffrent.



RamRaid90 #9 Posted 21 February 2018 - 06:06 PM

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View Postmollethepro, on 21 February 2018 - 05:00 PM, said:

yea im bad but i was playing way better with s1

the udes can only bounce lower tiered tanks and maby some tier 8's while the S1 can bounce quite a bit. its way more accurate, faster aim time and more.

 

the only outstanding things of the udes is camo and speed. basicaly a light tank with a fixed gun and a giant handicap.

 

You were playing better in the S1 purely because it's completely broken at tier VIII. It has impenetrable frontal armour for most tier VI and VII tanks and will bounce alot of tier VIIIs too.

 

The S1 is more forgiving when you playbadly in it, therefore you "perform" slightly better.



blaster1112 #10 Posted 21 February 2018 - 06:07 PM

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View Postmollethepro, on 21 February 2018 - 06:00 PM, said:

yea im bad but i was playing way better with s1

the udes can only bounce lower tiered tanks and maby some tier 8's while the S1 can bounce quite a bit. its way more accurate, faster aim time and more.

 

the only outstanding things of the udes is camo and speed. basicaly a light tank with a fixed gun and a giant handicap.

 

Yeah no, in siege mode the UDES has a base accuracy of 0.25 while the STRV S1 has 0.30 meaning the UDES is about 20% more accurate.

 

The Udes is more stealthy, faster and can shoot just as well. The downside is that it will get overmatched by any tank with a 61mm or bigger gun. The STRV S1 can bounce anything up to 90mm reliably. (which really isn't a factor when you get into a tier X match). It is more forgiving when you are top-tier though. At medium range it can save you against a tier 7 and some tier 8s. But at long range the UDES remains king due to the increased accuracy.

 

The 103B and 103-0 both don't have that much armour either. The 103-0 can bounce anything up to 120mm reliably (which is a pretty common caliber anyway), while the cupola and sides are easily penned by anything.

The UDES is a fine tank but requires you to stay at a larger distance, just like the 103-0 and 103-B.


Edited by blaster1112, 21 February 2018 - 06:09 PM.


Jigabachi #11 Posted 21 February 2018 - 06:08 PM

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It's fine. Just the maps suck - like it's the case for many of those one-trick-pony-tanks. Well... and you are bad, too.

Besides that, the S1, which you don't even own, is quite unbalanced and quite a bit overperforming.


Edited by Jigabachi, 21 February 2018 - 07:38 PM.


Dava_117 #12 Posted 21 February 2018 - 06:14 PM

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If something, it should be nerfed. 288pen with 0.25 accuracy, 1385m/s shell velocity and that cammo is insane. They nerfed ISU pen because it was "brocken" and caused passive gameplay while this thing is 3 times worst. At least ISU can't shoot and stay unspotted. Try to do this on UDES and companion...

JocMeister #13 Posted 21 February 2018 - 06:53 PM

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Remove it, the STRV S1 and the rest of the idiotic Swedish TDs all together. 

jack_timber #14 Posted 21 February 2018 - 07:03 PM

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Play as a long range sniper and engage that Romulan cloak.

It has no armour, one hit with a small toffee hammer can take 25% off your HP.

Use your camo + speed to relocate + firepower, just don't get spotted....

I rather like it:)



fabse #15 Posted 21 February 2018 - 07:13 PM

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View Postjack_timber, on 21 February 2018 - 06:03 PM, said:

I rather like it:)

 

Me too!

 

My beloved UDES has a couple of nice advantages over the strv (speed and camo). Making them work is not simple and requires experience and skill. The payoff is worth it though. If you can pull it off, then the UDES is miles better then the strv.


Edited by fabse, 21 February 2018 - 07:14 PM.


Balc0ra #16 Posted 21 February 2018 - 07:28 PM

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View Postmollethepro, on 21 February 2018 - 05:39 PM, said:

yeye better camo. still gets spotted anywhere.

 

Must be why it's the only non light I got 10K spotting in with then. As I was the only one that could move up close enough without getting spotted as we had zero lights. Like any non light tank. You need cover to mask your approach, and a double bush for firing.

Edited by Balc0ra, 21 February 2018 - 07:29 PM.





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