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deivio82 #1 Posted 22 February 2018 - 05:27 PM

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STRV and IS7 

Strv   done everything x2 more and still got less XP

 

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Spurtung #2 Posted 22 February 2018 - 05:32 PM

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IS7 has 3 more shots and didn't miss any shot.

 

Serves to say: nobody really knows how XP works in ranked and I for one think that's best to avoid people to whore their XP while doing close to nothing.



Coldspell #3 Posted 22 February 2018 - 05:45 PM

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Is7 didn't get enough buffs it needed an exp buff.

OneFromOne #4 Posted 22 February 2018 - 06:01 PM

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Just get over it and have fun pal,really you dont have anything better in life just sit and check every tank results in  SINGLE Ranked battle?Dude listen to me,close your laptop or shut down your PC,visit shower,dress up,use some parfume but not to much and fck off to the city to find 10 differences between 2 sexy girls you will meet first..the one wich is better,you grab for drink and maybe if you try enough she will give you way more pleasure today than 81 EXP difference in pixel game...Enjoy

 

 

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Rod_75 #5 Posted 23 February 2018 - 12:59 AM

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Hahaha.

I love, actually, to see these results.

Impressive how  we are ignorant, cause they want to keep us ignorant.

When XP matter, as per Ranked, we are seeing more and more of these things.

But they happen also in random.

 

Seems that "tank specific factor" is so important.

TO give that IS7 much more xp doing almost 1/4 of you.

 

Wow.

 

One question.

Will be us the first to stop writing this kind of post?

Or will be moderated? Explained?

Or we have just to play IS7 on ranked?

Ok, 3 questions.

But i receive more xp, i ahve actually the IS7 selected in my garage!

 

Rod



Aikl #6 Posted 23 February 2018 - 01:26 AM

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View PostRod_75, on 22 February 2018 - 11:59 PM, said:

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One question.

Will be us the first to stop writing this kind of post?

Or will be moderated? Explained?

Or we have just to play IS7 on ranked?

Ok, 3 questions.

But i receive more xp, i ahve actually the IS7 selected in my garage!

 

Rod

 

 

May I recommend taking off the tinfoil hat and using the search function? I believe we already got a reply form a CC, and the thread wasn't closed. The first on NA was, due to a bit of an overreaction related to 'naming and shaming' from what I can gather.

 

While I don't think it's rigged towards IS-7s, there's probably some to it. We do know that the XP system is "biased" towards heavy tanks, which in reality is down to playstyle. Randoms exhibit similar 'artifacts', I've been rewarded handily for nothing - other than being at the frontlines.
The parts we more or less know about seems to be aimed at 'risk versus reward'. That's a good thing. It would make no sense if you could get top results by sitting back and not contributing (that isn't necessarily class-specific, mind you). Not entirely sure why the IS-7 is, allegedly, benefitting the most from it, though I doubt it's specifically rigged towards those tanks. 

Ask yourself - is there any particular reason just the IS-7 'sticks out'? Ideally any new T10 tank should be the one that benefits most from it, to satisfy those who went with the hype-train.

 

Ideally we'd have a large selection of post-battle results that weren't picked to showcase the alleged 'IS-7 bias'. I bet we'd find it for many tanks, but likely in particular heavies.



PervyPastryPuffer #7 Posted 23 February 2018 - 01:41 AM

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Bruh judging by the amount of damage that IS-7 dealt with 3 "penetrating" hits, he was firing full HE. :teethhappy: What the heck?

 

I also feel like the xp system is broken in Ranked...certainly different, if not broken. I just don't understand it sometimes.

 

I wish some WG staff would be so kind and explain if it differs from the random battles' xp system.



ogremage #8 Posted 23 February 2018 - 08:46 AM

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I think transparency in XP calculation is much needed. This has been asked to WG and no adequate response received.

 

That being said, my favourite conspiracy theory lately is that XP calculation for ranked is also subject to +/- 25% RNG spread.



ExistanceUK #9 Posted 23 February 2018 - 11:59 AM

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I don't think it being an IS7 is the issue, I think it's well known that ranked battles XP is wonky anyways (it certainly works differently to standard). There have been plenty of examples that show that kills are rewarded more greatly than anything else. Also I gather that blocking damage might be being rewarded with some XP. 

 



unhappy_bunny #10 Posted 23 February 2018 - 01:33 PM

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I suspect there is a conspiracy going on with ranked battles.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

..... all these negative posts about ranked are designed to discourage us tomatos from wanting to join in. 

 

In my case its working.:sceptic:



lonigus #11 Posted 23 February 2018 - 01:35 PM

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I had a game where a Type 5 heavy did 880 dmg AND 1450 team damage and he still landed higher then me with double his damage. We both were on the hill at the beach (yes Type 5 at the beach...) on Airfield map. He even saved a chevron in a defeat... With more team damage then regular damage done :D That Type 5 shot out T62 simply because he crossed his path on the hill.

 

Believe it or no, but team damage counts toward exp in ranked for some reason :D I have a screeshot on my home PC and if someone needs proof I can deliver after my work shift ends. I actually might even start a new thread since its pretty bonkers what happened there.


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EscapeArtist #12 Posted 23 February 2018 - 01:50 PM

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There seems to be something about HE. Certain tanks get huge XP boost just by spamming HE.



8126Jakobsson #13 Posted 23 February 2018 - 02:08 PM

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Two hidden factors that are not shown in the post game stats are how close to the enemies you were and for how long you survived. You can sit hulldown in the brawl and ding all game and end up higher than the smart guy that flanked and farmed from a distance. You don't even have to get any assist while sitting there, just be close. Ok maybe you have to get something done, but you get the gist. Play heavy and get close, komrades. 

 

*this may or may not be factually correct



deivio82 #14 Posted 23 February 2018 - 05:15 PM

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Looks like this wont be sorted any time soon> 

 

WG is busy with something else.........



lonigus #15 Posted 23 February 2018 - 05:59 PM

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View PostEscapeArtist, on 23 February 2018 - 01:50 PM, said:

There seems to be something about HE. Certain tanks get huge XP boost just by spamming HE.

 

What the f.... Lol

 

View Post8126Jakobsson, on 23 February 2018 - 02:08 PM, said:

Two hidden factors that are not shown in the post game stats are how close to the enemies you were and for how long you survived. You can sit hulldown in the brawl and ding all game and end up higher than the smart guy that flanked and farmed from a distance. You don't even have to get any assist while sitting there, just be close. Ok maybe you have to get something done, but you get the gist. Play heavy and get close, komrades. 

 

*this may or may not be factually correct

 

That is correct. Now I regret never grinding the British heavy line since super Conqs are very popular for that exact reason. According to the ranked exp distribution rules the targets you shoot head on have a much higher priority then flanking shots from distance and the game doesnt care if its a red line camper like a STRV or if it was a smart flanking play using a medium going around the enemy. The best is to play a Super Conq, ObjV4 and pray the medium line is not melting to fast for you to snatch a kill or two with atleast 2k damage. Then you are safe even in a defeat staying alive as long as possible. The same amount of kills and damage in a medium, but getting killed fast will result in about 30-50% less exp compared to the first example. 



8126Jakobsson #16 Posted 23 February 2018 - 08:04 PM

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Guy in IS-7 did 1548 dmg with 1 kill, 1220 assist and 0 spotted.

Me in 5A did 2160 dmg with 1 kill, 1554 assist and 1 spotted.

He's top 3 and get 2 chevrons.

I'm bottom 3 and get nothing.

Both survived.

He was closer to the bigger brawl cluster.

gg 

 



Homer_J #17 Posted 23 February 2018 - 08:20 PM

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You know there's no difference in exp distribution between ranked and random.

 

Funny how people only notice when 3 exp makes the difference between gaining or losing a chevron.  It's always been like this, paying attention to it will just drive you mad.



tankqull #18 Posted 23 February 2018 - 08:38 PM

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View PostExistanceUK, on 23 February 2018 - 10:59 AM, said:

I don't think it being an IS7 is the issue, I think it's well known that ranked battles XP is wonky anyways (it certainly works differently to standard). There have been plenty of examples that show that kills are rewarded more greatly than anything else. Also I gather that blocking damage might be being rewarded with some XP. 

 

 

zigzagging around in a light is rewarded aswell.

baribal_80 #19 Posted 23 February 2018 - 10:30 PM

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View Post8126Jakobsson, on 23 February 2018 - 01:08 PM, said:

Two hidden factors that are not shown in the post game stats are how close to the enemies you were and for how long you survived. You can sit hulldown in the brawl and ding all game and end up higher than the smart guy that flanked and farmed from a distance. You don't even have to get any assist while sitting there, just be close. Ok maybe you have to get something done, but you get the gist. Play heavy and get close, komrades. 

 

*this may or may not be factually correct

 

Those are not the only factors and no you don't get exp just for dinging but you get exp for spotting the tanks first. you get exp for shooting close range and shooting what you spot, you get exp for damaging modules (small amount), and you get a bonus for staying alive.

8126Jakobsson #20 Posted 23 February 2018 - 10:54 PM

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View Postbaribal_80, on 23 February 2018 - 10:30 PM, said:

 

Those are not the only factors and no you don't get exp just for dinging but you get exp for spotting the tanks first. you get exp for shooting close range and shooting what you spot, you get exp for damaging modules (small amount), and you get a bonus for staying alive.

 

​What I meant was that you just had to be close. Dinging is optional.




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