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FishFight01 #1 Posted 25 February 2018 - 03:30 PM

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Please answer to this question : Would you like to rebalance the old tier 8 tanks ? and an example of old tank is the tier 8 american medium T69 wich has awful penetration of just 181 mm at 100 meters and a poor gun handeling with a 2.9 seconds aimtime on a medium tank and i do not say about T34-2 the chinese tier 8  medium tank with the same 181 mm of penetration and a 2.8 second base aimtime . 

I hope you Wargaming or other moderators will see this and will try to rebalance those two tank . 



Antaris #2 Posted 25 February 2018 - 03:35 PM

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View PostFishFight01, on 25 February 2018 - 04:30 PM, said:

Please answer to this question : Would you like to rebalance the old tier 8 tanks ? and an example of old tank is the tier 8 american medium T69 wich has awful penetration of just 181 mm at 100 meters and a poor gun handeling with a 2.9 seconds aimtime on a medium tank and i do not say about T34-2 the chinese tier 8  medium tank with the same 181 mm of penetration and a 2.8 second base aimtime . 

I hope you Wargaming or other moderators will see this and will try to rebalance those two tank . 

 

They are many. The most forgotten one is the T32 with such low speed, crappy gun and obsolete armor.

OneFromOne #3 Posted 25 February 2018 - 03:41 PM

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If they EVER will decide to touch any Prem tank,im sure they will rebalance all of them at once,so no whine topics are created with tops WHy this tank wasnt rebalanced,why this was forgot...and if think this way,to rebalance all Prems wich is now for sale and for sale as specials...its huge work and i dont see in any very near future this to happen...but maybe next year or so after they finish upgrading game engine,maps,mechanics etc

Dava_117 #4 Posted 25 February 2018 - 03:43 PM

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Or KV-4 with the atrocious gun handling and the powercrept role. Or Jap and german papaer med line. Lot's of them around, really.



LordMuffin #5 Posted 25 February 2018 - 03:44 PM

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View PostFishFight01, on 25 February 2018 - 03:30 PM, said:

Please answer to this question : Would you like to rebalance the old tier 8 tanks ? and an example of old tank is the tier 8 american medium T69 wich has awful penetration of just 181 mm at 100 meters and a poor gun handeling with a 2.9 seconds aimtime on a medium tank and i do not say about T34-2 the chinese tier 8  medium tank with the same 181 mm of penetration and a 2.8 second base aimtime . 

I hope you Wargaming or other moderators will see this and will try to rebalance those two tank . 

Personally I think every T8 tank except. 

VK100OP, Defender, Obj 252U, IS-3, Lorr 40t, Skorpion G, Strv S1 and IS-M needs a buff (including premiums).



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List of tier 8s to be rebalanced excluding preferential match making:

1)T69

2)tiger2

3)t-32-2

4)T34

5)j panther2

6)Tvp vtu

Some others also 



jdc302 #7 Posted 25 February 2018 - 04:18 PM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 25 February 2018 - 02:54 PM, said:

List of tier 8s to be rebalanced excluding preferential match making:

1)T69

2)tiger2

3)t-32-2

4)T34

5)j panther2

6)Tvp vtu

Some others also 

 

Why does this list include the T34 and not the T32. There are mediums with a better gun then the T32.

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View PostLordMuffin, on 25 February 2018 - 03:44 PM, said:

Personally I think every T8 tank except. 

VK100OP, Defender, Obj 252U, IS-3, Lorr 40t, Skorpion G, Strv S1 and IS-M needs a buff (including premiums).

 

T26E5 Patriot needs buff? :O

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View PostAntaris, on 25 February 2018 - 03:35 PM, said:

 

They are many. The most forgotten one is the T32 with such low speed, crappy gun and obsolete armor.

 

View Postjdc302, on 25 February 2018 - 04:18 PM, said:

 

Why does this list include the T34 and not the T32. There are mediums with a better gun then the T32.

 

T32 is not bad. Only has low pen, rest is fine.

My CDC needs buff much more



VsUK #10 Posted 25 February 2018 - 05:48 PM

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You might have noticed that WG have lost interest in tanks from Tier 8 & below. The money is in Tier 9/10 players. I've not really seen any significant changes or improvements to any tanks outside tier 9/10. Yes, they'll add the odd premium Tier 8 here & there. But they're mainly tanks for credit farmers.who mainly play Tier 9/10 tanks. Quite hard to use premium ammo in a tier 9/10 & make credits. 

This game earned it's rightful place as a brilliant tank battle game. Then like all the rest, they start making changes to milk as much money as they can from it. Milking the title they earned for the game. It's already lost its Free to Play title from a few gaming magazines as the experts in the magazines claim it's being directed down the pay to win rout & therefor, no longer free to play as you can't succeed playing for free no matter how hard you try. 

Anyways, one tank I'd like to see improved is the Tiger 2. It's now a joke & an insult the tank.

MeNoobTank #11 Posted 25 February 2018 - 06:01 PM

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from the tanks I own I want these buffed:

 

KV-4 - take of some weakspots because is full of them, buff gun handling

T69 - seriously that aim time needs buffed hard, also some more pen but even with that low I can work with it.

110 - give it a new engine much more powerful coz the tank is slow + no armor+ bad pen, atleast buff the gun handling.

T34 - aim time buff, mobility buff

 



pudelikael #12 Posted 25 February 2018 - 06:03 PM

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split the game - old tanks and new tanks. 

Edited by GeneralBrezhnev, 25 February 2018 - 06:03 PM.


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View PostgunslingerXXX, on 25 February 2018 - 03:54 PM, said:

 

 

T32 is not bad. Only has low pen, rest is fine.

My CDC needs buff much more

 

The thing I find the most annoying about the t32 is that. With the low penn for the heavy, you can't even hit targets reliably with the 0.41 accuracy. The T34 has an accuracy of 0.35 and better pen.

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They should nerf all new tanks to the level of the old tanks. All that buffing is an endless cycle. The moment you buff all of them you start buffing at the top because they are not "competetive*" anymore.

 

 

*for bots who whine loud enough that WG listens to them that is



LordMuffin #15 Posted 25 February 2018 - 07:22 PM

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View PostSuperOlsson, on 25 February 2018 - 04:49 PM, said:

 

T26E5 Patriot needs buff? :O

A slight one wouldn't hurt. It should get to Defender/VK100P levels of power anyway.



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View PostLordMuffin, on 25 February 2018 - 07:22 PM, said:

A slight one wouldn't hurt. It should get to Defender/VK100P levels of power anyway.

 

Yes it will hurt. You seem to forget it can sometimes meet Tier 6 and Tier 7 tanks which struggle to pen it even in the lower plate. 

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View PostMeNoobTank, on 25 February 2018 - 07:40 PM, said:

 

Yes it will hurt. You seem to forget it can sometimes meet Tier 6 and Tier 7 tanks which struggle to pen it even in the lower plate. 

Indeed,  all T6 and T7 tanks should also get buffed imo.

And T4 and T5.

 

The easier way, of course, is to nerf those tanks I mentioned, a few T9 tanks and alot of T10 tanks.


Edited by LordMuffin, 25 February 2018 - 07:53 PM.


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T69 is far from the tier 8 that's worst off. It's decent atm. And it's already had a few pen buffs. So be happy the pen is not lower.

 

KV-5 is first on the tier 8 buff list that we know off after update 1.0. So lets see where they take it from there after that.



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View Postjdc302, on 25 February 2018 - 03:18 PM, said:

 

Why does this list include the T34 and not the T32. There are mediums with a better gun then the T32.

I did say some others also t32 is in that.T32 just needs 215mm.



beercritch #20 Posted 26 February 2018 - 09:11 AM

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This is one of the many things wrong with the game and I dont think WG have any real idea how to fix it.

 

In a tier 8 tank you almost always come up against tier 10,s. To address this there has been massive power creep on newer tier 8 tanks both regular and premium. Thats left old tanks feeling out in the cold. Take most of the old school tier 8s and they now struggle to compete in tier never mind against the 9s and 10s.

 

All that will happen with re balancing the poor tier 8 tanks it that they will then become OP for tier 7 and 6 opposition and the problem will move down the tree. This in no way removes the problem, it just changes the problem.






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