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AvalancheZ257 #1 Posted 26 February 2018 - 12:20 AM

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Don't say stick to the lower tiers. I'm willing to learn, but I do need to take part in team battles with my clan and I need a crew trainer for my British mediums so I can't stick around in any lower tiers for that. 

 

I'm just asking if the FV4202 is worth its current price, and if it will get buffed again in the future. I was sad to read that the proposed 240mm turret armour buff was reverted, but I did hear it got some buffs nonetheless. Is it worth it now?

 

 

 



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View PostAvalancheZ257, on 25 February 2018 - 11:20 PM, said:

Don't say stick to the lower tiers. I'm willing to learn, but I do need to take part in team battles with my clan and I need a crew trainer for my British mediums so I can't stick around in any lower tiers for that. 

 

I'm just asking if the FV4202 is worth its current price, and if it will get buffed again in the future. I was sad to read that the proposed 240mm turret armour buff was reverted, but I did hear it got some buffs nonetheless. Is it worth it now?

 

 

 

 

No it's not. Low dpm, bad bloom, meh armor. There are better prems like Lowe, Wz120FT, Lorianne, 

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View Postbaribal_80, on 25 February 2018 - 11:39 PM, said:

 

No it's not. Low dpm, bad bloom, meh armor. There are better prems like Lowe, Wz120FT, Lorianne, 

 

Hmm I don't know about that, Lorraine is good but you can't really buy one, on the other hand Lowe and WZ are more expensive. 

 

Just look at the ~7000 gold category, you have M4 Rev, Panther 88, Super Pershing, STA-2, FV4202 and I guess you could add T-54 mod 1, Mutz and M46 KR to the bunch since they are only a bit more expensive. Out of those FV4202 does not sound that bad really. You could argue that M4 Rev and T-54 mod 1 are better premium tanks, but I would say that FV4202 is considerably easier to play considering current T10 meta.



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I actually kinda like it. It has high penetration even on it's normal shells, so even tho it's "low DPM", you have a chance to penetrate tier 9-10 people.


I owned the M4 Ravioli, but ended up trading it in. I play tier 8 premiums to make money, alas I'm not willing to constantly shoot gold ammo (1 or 2 is okay, if it means winning a match, but that's a different story), alas the Ravioli just wasnt cutting it. 200 pen isn't enough in higher tiers, it had zero armor (tier 5 chassis, lolwut), and it was slow. It could've been an awesome flanker, had it been 10-15 km/h faster.

 

I also have the Lorraine 40t, and for some reason it's gun is just not working for me... Which is strange, considering I love my AMX M4 49, which has the same gun (without the magazine ofc).

So yeah, it might be not the best tier 8 premium med, but I like it and I'd recommend it with a good heart. :)



shane73tank #5 Posted 26 February 2018 - 07:58 AM

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Speak to your clan commander, there’s no point in you getting the FV if your commander only wants heavies and lights 

Gardar7 #6 Posted 26 February 2018 - 08:38 AM

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I like it. It is better than the ravioli and the STA-2 in the same category. If you like the Centurion, then you will like the FV as well, I think. I bought it for a reduced price during Christmas, so it was a good trade for me, but I think even its normal price is not too much. Nice penetration and good money-making capabilities. It looks good and it is fun to play, which I couldn't tell about most of the premiums around. If you would like to have a ridgeline fighter medium, which has a chance to bounce shots from its turret, then it is a good choice.

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I kinda like the FV4202.


Edited by Ceeb, 26 February 2018 - 09:03 AM.


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I really enjoy the 4202, would I recommend it however, no

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View PostAvalancheZ257, on 25 February 2018 - 11:20 PM, said:

 I need a crew trainer for my British mediums so I can't stick around in any lower tiers for that. - Cromwell Berlin is a better crew trainer, get that when it's on sale. Has more use as well. Also it comes with a super crew which is worth the money it costs on it's own.

 

I'm just asking if the FV4202 is worth its current price, - marginal. It's not good, but at the price it is not the worst of the bunch in the shop.

 

and if it will get buffed again in the future. - highly unlikely. WG had the chance when they put the Swedish Centurion into the game, but chose not to give the FV the stronger turret.

 

I was sad to read that the proposed 240mm turret armour buff was reverted, but I did hear it got some buffs nonetheless. - got a speed buff, which means its still not that fast, but better than it was.

 

Is it worth it now? - possibly not. The Swedish Centurion is probably better as premium Centurions go, but that only comes up for sale maybe four times per year.

 

 

 

 


Edited by arthurwellsley, 26 February 2018 - 09:11 AM.


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M4rev outclasses every 240 dmg medium by miles 

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I own it and like it. Decent turret that can bounce stuff, enough pen to hurt stuff. needs to be played hull down, since your hull armour is paper. For more impressions etc: http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/555413-fv4202-p-impressions/page__st__400#topmost (read it from page 20-21 onwards, since it received a buff last summer).

 

EDIT: Second Arthurwellesly's suggestion on getting the Cromwell B once it gets sold again. Great fun tank and crew trainer


Edited by undutchable80, 26 February 2018 - 09:39 AM.


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Do you want a garbage platform that hits for a pathetic 230 alpha every 10 LONG seconds while you have to aim for whole 4 seconds becuase the aimtime is trash?

 

No. its still garbage untill they actually buff the dam thing.

 

Edit: dont touch tier 8 mediums in general unless you have a Type59 to abuse the stupid gundep with impenetrable turret. T-34-3 for more advanced people who can use -5 gundep and smacks people for 390. personally i play my Liberte at tier8 as the armor is troll, the standard pen is good enough for higher tiers with a bit of aim. but dont play mediums. they really suck now. not even Mod1 speed buffs made is worth a crap.


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AvalancheZ257 #13 Posted 26 February 2018 - 10:40 PM

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View Postshane73tank, on 26 February 2018 - 07:58 AM, said:

Speak to your clan commander, there’s no point in you getting the FV if your commander only wants heavies and lights 

 

Good point. Talked to clan commander and they said it was ok, they need a flanker tank to keep up with the likes of a T-44 and I hear the FV4202 is actually fast enough for that now. 

 

View PostWarzey, on 26 February 2018 - 03:11 AM, said:

 

Hmm I don't know about that, Lorraine is good but you can't really buy one, on the other hand Lowe and WZ are more expensive. 

 

Just look at the ~7000 gold category, you have M4 Rev, Panther 88, Super Pershing, STA-2, FV4202 and I guess you could add T-54 mod 1, Mutz and M46 KR to the bunch since they are only a bit more expensive. Out of those FV4202 does not sound that bad really. You could argue that M4 Rev and T-54 mod 1 are better premium tanks, but I would say that FV4202 is considerably easier to play considering current T10 meta.

 

Is 226 AP pen enough for Tier X games then? The 220 AP pen on the Caenarvon (which I have) is ok, but for some reason the 259 AP pen on my Conqueror really annoys me. Seeing how its a medium tank, it should mostly be shooting at side armour, where 226 pen would be enough? I really want to earn credits in this tank while also training my crews, and the high cost per damage point of the FV4202 has been putting me off for a while. I never even carry premium so that's not a concern... (literally cannot afford to even have it around for emergencies).

 

View Postarthurwellsley, on 26 February 2018 - 09:10 AM, said:

 

 

Will the Primo Victoria (Swedish Centurion) be on sale any time soon? I hear its better than the FV4202 in every way, but it's not a British tank and I don't have any interest in grinding Swedish tanks in the foreseeable future...

 

View Postundutchable80, on 26 February 2018 - 09:38 AM, said:

I own it and like it. Decent turret that can bounce stuff, enough pen to hurt stuff. needs to be played hull down, since your hull armour is paper. For more impressions etc: http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/555413-fv4202-p-impressions/page__st__400#topmost (read it from page 20-21 onwards, since it received a buff last summer).

 

EDIT: Second Arthurwellesly's suggestion on getting the Cromwell B once it gets sold again. Great fun tank and crew trainer

 

Thanks, I'll take a look at that thread. If the Cromwell B comes around with its amazing crew then I'll probably get it, but I'd like a separate Tier 8 premium as well for clan battles and team battles. My clan doesn't really do Tier 6 matches. 

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with the current tier 8 MM, not really but if you need a tier 8 medium premium, its one of the better options of the tech-tree premiums. 

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View PostAvalancheZ257, on 26 February 2018 - 09:40 PM, said:

Is 226 AP pen enough for Tier X games then? The 220 AP pen on the Caenarvon (which I have) is ok, but for some reason the 259 AP pen on my Conqueror really annoys me. Seeing how its a medium tank, it should mostly be shooting at side armour, where 226 pen would be enough? I really want to earn credits in this tank while also training my crews, and the high cost per damage point of the FV4202 has been putting me off for a while. I never even carry premium so that's not a concern... (literally cannot afford to even have it around for emergencies).

 

In all honesty you would need around 250 penetration on standard to feel completely comfortable in T10 matches. Unfortunately you can only get that kind of penetration on TDs which come with their own set of downsides.

 

For the record 226 pen is a major improvement over 200-ish penetration that mediums usually get. Suddenly it's a lot easier to frontally deal with tanks like IS-3, IS-M, T-54 mod 1, T-10, Obj 257, T-54, Obj 430 and so on, there are a lot of tanks on T8 and T9 that are borderline impenetrable for below 200 penetration guns. You also have 258 penetration APCR shells at your disposal, so you can damage most of the T10 heavies frontally. 

As someone else already said, FV4202 sits very high on the ladder in ~7000 gold price range. 

 

EDIT: As an example here are two games I played recently, one is a T10 battle on Westfield http://wotreplays.eu/site/4196120#westfield-warzey-fv4202 and the other is a T8 battle on Live Oaks http://wotreplays.eu/site/4196124#live_oaks-warzey-fv4202


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View PostTheWarrener, on 26 February 2018 - 09:14 AM, said:

M4rev outclasses every 240 dmg medium by miles 

 

Only if you are willing to shoot heat ammo like mad.

 

Reva is useless with so many overarmored tanks and the new MM.



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Well its one prem where you have good pen on normal ammo.

 

Its turret is very bouncy, specaly if you can fight on a ridgeline and youre above the enemy.

 

Its a realy slow tank for a medium



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View PostGardar7, on 26 February 2018 - 07:38 AM, said:

I like it. It is better than the ravioli and the STA-2 in the same category. If you like the Centurion, then you will like the FV as well, I think. I bought it for a reduced price during Christmas, so it was a good trade for me, but I think even its normal price is not too much. Nice penetration and good money-making capabilities. It looks good and it is fun to play, which I couldn't tell about most of the premiums around. If you would like to have a ridgeline fighter medium, which has a chance to bounce shots from its turret, then it is a good choice.

 

well sta-2 has 275 gold pen that is important in nowadays wot. While m4 has 390 alpha. And all 3 tanks have 10 depression. Fv4202 is quite a good tank but it simply has nothing impressive. While most other same class t8 prems have their strong side fv lacks it. Yes its armor is quite tricky now but it hardly helps vs all those t10 guns.

 

Also not sure about that but i think fv regular shell cost is high.

 

All in all i think it is worth going for this tank only if you have most of other same class t8 prems. If you wanna train crew cromwell is better choice. If you wanna creds go for tanks like Skorpion or Wz-120. Yes they cost more but they earn decent creds even in t10 mm.

 

 



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View PostAkathis, on 27 February 2018 - 12:16 AM, said:

 

Only if you are willing to shoot heat ammo like mad.

 

Reva is useless with so many overarmored tanks and the new MM.

 

Sad part is T-34-3 gets 250 HEAT too.... and doesent meet tier 10!

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View PostAvalancheZ257, on 26 February 2018 - 10:40 PM, said:

 

Will the Primo Victoria (Swedish Centurion) be on sale any time soon? I hear its better than the FV4202 in every way, but it's not a British tank and I don't have any interest in grinding Swedish tanks in the foreseeable future...

 

Have a look for yourself: https://tanks.gg/com...2-p?t=pvictoria

Dont know if it will be on sale again soon, but last year it was on offer 3 times? In a number of ways the Primo is better, but in some other areas the FV is better. I dont play the Swedish tree either, but I like that tanks since it plays similar to a number of other tanks I play (UK & US: good turret, crap hull). The Primo crew came with 100% BiA and now sits on their 4th skill, so I use it as my fun tank, hull down trainer & freexp collector (I turned Advanced crew training off and convert the collected xp to freexp whenever there is a discount on to help with unlocking modules on higher tier tanks so I dont play them stock).

 

View PostAvalancheZ257, on 26 February 2018 - 10:40 PM, said:

 

Thanks, I'll take a look at that thread. If the Cromwell B comes around with its amazing crew then I'll probably get it, but I'd like a separate Tier 8 premium as well for clan battles and team battles. My clan doesn't really do Tier 6 matches. 

If you need a specific Tier 8 (UK) premium then the FV is good. Unless you can wait, because I have a feeling the Caernarvon Action X (Tier 8 UK HT premium) will be released soon (this year). That would give you at least a choice.

Still, get the Cromwell B when it comes on sale so you can train your Brit crews when you are not playing CWs or TBs.

 







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