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9.22 LT assisted dmg bug while spotting


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Rico_Shay #1 Posted 26 February 2018 - 10:21 AM

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Spotting/assist bug.

Numerous times i have spotted a tank, first time it got spotted and i received a notice about it. The tank(s) get damaged but i get no assisted dmg on it.
Is it just me?

 

EDIT:
The spotted tank(s) get damaged directly after they where spotted by me.


Edited by Rico_Shay, 26 February 2018 - 10:36 AM.


Sfinski #2 Posted 26 February 2018 - 10:25 AM

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You might be the one first spotting it but when it gets damaged you no longer are the only one spotting it. Also replay always helps.

TheR3dBaron #3 Posted 26 February 2018 - 10:55 AM

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If you spot a tank and the spotted tank shoots directly after that, its camo values drop, meaning they could be in view range of your allies meaning you lose the assisted damage.

tangerine_sedge #4 Posted 26 February 2018 - 11:27 AM

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Who gets the spotting damage then?  The tank that shot it (if assumed it self spotted)?

 

So, you only get spotting damage if no one else spots it before it gets hit?



Baldrickk #5 Posted 26 February 2018 - 11:31 AM

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View Posttangerine_sedge, on 26 February 2018 - 11:27 AM, said:

Who gets the spotting damage then?  The tank that shot it (if assumed it self spotted)?

 

So, you only get spotting damage if no one else spots it before it gets hit?

You get spotting assist if the tank that did the damage cannot see the enemy itself.

 

If there is more than one tank spotting the target, the spotting damage us shared equally between all tanks that are spotting the target 


Edited by Baldrickk, 26 February 2018 - 11:31 AM.


Balc0ra #6 Posted 26 February 2018 - 11:32 AM

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View Posttangerine_sedge, on 26 February 2018 - 11:27 AM, said:

Who gets the spotting damage then?  The tank that shot it (if assumed it self spotted)?

 

So, you only get spotting damage if no one else spots it before it gets hit?

 

Even if you get the initial spot, If he drives into several spotting lines, as in more then one keeps him spotted. The assist is divided among the number of spotters. If he got the initial spot on a light that is moving across the map on the edge of his view range. And he moves out of his spotting range and into others. He can still get nothing when they damage it, and everything goes to the one now keeping him lit. Even if it's just a second or two later.

Edited by Balc0ra, 26 February 2018 - 11:33 AM.


tangerine_sedge #7 Posted 26 February 2018 - 02:18 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 26 February 2018 - 11:32 AM, said:

 

If he got the initial spot on a light that is moving across the map on the edge of his view range. And he moves out of his spotting range and into others. He can still get nothing when they damage it, and everything goes to the one now keeping him lit. Even if it's just a second or two later.

Thanks, its that bit which I didnt understand.  I always assumed that I spotted first (and lit him up for x seconds) therefore I should share a part of subsequent damage.

 

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Rico_Shay #8 Posted 26 February 2018 - 02:21 PM

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Example:
I drive alone into enemy spawn and i spot an artillery, 3sec later our arty takes in out = i get nothing, in other words no assist.
 

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View PostRico_Shay, on 26 February 2018 - 02:21 PM, said:

Example:
I drive alone into enemy spawn and i spot an artillery, 3sec later our arty takes in out = i get nothing, in other words no assist.
 

 

Bad example because you're not providing any replays. There are no spotting bugs, please learn some game mechanics, it will help you improve.

Balc0ra #10 Posted 26 February 2018 - 02:42 PM

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View PostRico_Shay, on 26 February 2018 - 02:21 PM, said:

Example:
I drive alone into enemy spawn and i spot an artillery, 3sec later our arty takes in out = i get nothing, in other words no assist.
 

 

If you are alone and no one is keeping him spotted, that should not happen. Unless there are 6 friendlies 10m behind you keeping him lit and you move behind a rock that is. Unless arty got despotted, and he takes him out a few seconds later. As spotting assist is still rewarded on those that go despotted for a few seconds after they disappear.

 

As without a replay seeing who were close to you and what you did or did not drive behind etc. Anything we say is still only speculations.


Edited by Balc0ra, 26 February 2018 - 02:43 PM.


Spurtung #11 Posted 26 February 2018 - 03:58 PM

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View Posttangerine_sedge, on 26 February 2018 - 12:27 PM, said:

Who gets the spotting damage then?  The tank that shot it (if assumed it self spotted)?

 

So, you only get spotting damage if no one else spots it before it gets hit?

 

Keyword: assisted

 

If someone can see the target by themselves and shoots it, your assistance isn't exactly needed, now is it?



pecopad #12 Posted 26 February 2018 - 05:21 PM

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View PostSpurtung, on 26 February 2018 - 03:58 PM, said:

 

Keyword: assisted

 

If someone can see the target by themselves and shoots it, your assistance isn't exactly needed, now is it?

 

I don't think it works like that... Many times I have assisted damage brawling with other tanks that can see the tank they are shooting...

 

Assistant damage is more like an art,not a science...

 

Sometime you get the damage and other times you don't. Proximity spotting sometimes works, other times it doesn't...

 

I just quitted to understand how it works, I just thinks its bugged and move on.



Sfinski #13 Posted 26 February 2018 - 05:40 PM

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View Postpecopad, on 26 February 2018 - 06:21 PM, said:

 

I don't think it works like that... Many times I have assisted damage brawling with other tanks that can see the tank they are shooting...

 

Assistant damage is more like an art,not a science...

 

Sometime you get the damage and other times you don't. Proximity spotting sometimes works, other times it doesn't...

 

I just quitted to understand how it works, I just thinks its bugged and move on.

 

You gave up understanding how it works yet here you are correcting people how it works?

Spurtung #14 Posted 26 February 2018 - 05:49 PM

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View Postpecopad, on 26 February 2018 - 06:21 PM, said:

 

I don't think it works like that... Many times I have assisted damage brawling with other tanks that can see the tank they are shooting...

 

Assistant damage is more like an art,not a science...

 

Sometime you get the damage and other times you don't. Proximity spotting sometimes works, other times it doesn't...

 

I just quitted to understand how it works, I just thinks its bugged and move on.

 

Here we are, talking about assisted damage by spotting, when you come along and cluelessly make it about assisted damage by detracking a vehicle, while seemingly not understanding either one.

 


Edited by Spurtung, 26 February 2018 - 05:53 PM.


AliceUnchained #15 Posted 26 February 2018 - 06:57 PM

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View PostRico_Shay, on 26 February 2018 - 02:21 PM, said:

Example:
I drive alone into enemy spawn and i spot an artillery, 3sec later our arty takes in out = i get nothing, in other words no assist.
 

 

You would either get:

 

A.) Full assisted damage & XP (being 50% of that awarded to the damage dealer normally) if you are the only one spotting the SPG, meaning also your friendly SPG is not able to spot that enemy SPG.

B.) Partial assisted damage & XP if others are spotting the enemy SPG as well (the aforementioned 50% divided by number of spotters), but the damage dealing friendly SPG is not able to spot that SPG.

C.) No assisted damage & XP if the damage dealing friendly SPG is able to spot that enemy SPG, OR when the enemy SPG disappeared from sight again and after the grace period has ended (e.g. friendly SPG blind fired). 

 

View Postpecopad, on 26 February 2018 - 05:21 PM, said:

I don't think it works like that... Many times I have assisted damage brawling with other tanks that can see the tank they are shooting...

 

Except of course that it does. In your case, either your estimation on what others in your team can spot is simply wrong, or you simply detracked the opponent and received assisted damage that way.

 


Edited by AliceUnchained, 26 February 2018 - 07:00 PM.





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