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drasko111 #1 Posted 02 March 2018 - 06:41 PM

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Hello, recently came back to the game and can't believe how bad the tank is now...

I got the tank a long time ago with a healthy number of battles in it and I enjoyed it, but today in 2018 It's a damn joke.

 

It costs almost the same amount of gold as Löwe and T34 but has no chance against those same tanks...don't get me started on what happens if you meet an IS3 or whatever...

PMM means nothing in this new meta so won't even bother talking about that...

Can any programmer who knows about game developing tell me how much time it takes to change the penetration number of 175 to 200+?

My guess It's around 3.465436 seconds?

 

Why are they not buffing it? Is it because it was the first tank which you could win during an event i think and a lot of people got it? So they won't buy any new premiums if it was viable at all?

Maybe they don't know how to increase the penetration or buff it at all? :O

 

 


Edited by drasko111, 02 March 2018 - 06:55 PM.


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Yes...:(

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View Postdrasko111, on 02 March 2018 - 06:41 PM, said:

Why are they not buffing it? Is it because it was the first tank which you could win during an event i think and a lot of people got it? So they won't buy any new premiums if it was viable at all?

 

It's a pref MM tank. It's causing some issues. As WG also want's to remove pref MM. It's been on the buff list along with the KV-5 for almost a year. And recently WG said that after patch 1.0. The KV-5 is the first of the Pref MM tanks to get buffed. So then their focus will shift to those with the IS-6 etc to follow. Removing the pref MM is an option and giving them a huge pen buff etc. But then a refund option for gold will be given.

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View Postdrasko111, on 02 March 2018 - 06:41 PM, said:

Hello, recently came back to the game and can't believe how bad the tank is now...

I got the tank a long time ago with a healthy number of battles in it and i enjoyed it, but today in 2018 it's a damn joke.

 

It costs almost the same amount of gold as Löwe and T34 but has no chance against those same tanks...don't get me started on what happens if you meet an IS3 or whatever...

PMM means nothing in this new meta so won't even bother talking about that...

Can any programmer who knows about game developing tell me how much time it takes to change the penetration number of 175 to 200+?

My guess It's around 3.465436 seconds?

 

Why are they not buffing it? Is it because it was the first tank which you could win during an event i think and a lot of people got it? So they won't buy any new premiums if it was viable at all?

 

 

 

both the 2 tanks you compare to where made and balanced around the +2mm, whereas IS-6 is not, you've lost abit of credibility by saying that...

the thing about IS-6 is you'll see your own tier and 1 above, no T10's, that alone makes that gun slightly better than what you would have playing the IS-M...


 

it might only have 175mm or 217mm pen, but that just means you have to pick your targets, not yolo rush the enemy thinking you can pen them

that might even mean playing as a medium rather than a heavy, as 175mm pen is still going to pen those tanks


 


 


 



drasko111 #5 Posted 02 March 2018 - 07:02 PM

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View PostIsharial, on 02 March 2018 - 06:56 PM, said:

 

both the 2 tanks you compare to where made and balanced around the +2mm, whereas IS-6 is not, you've lost abit of credibility by saying that...

the thing about IS-6 is you'll see your own tier and 1 above, no T10's, that alone makes that gun slightly better than what you would have playing the IS-M...


 

it might only have 175mm or 217mm pen, but that just means you have to pick your targets, not yolo rush the enemy thinking you can pen them

that might even mean playing as a medium rather than a heavy, as 175mm pen is still going to pen those tanks


 


 


 

 

Your talking about the PMM while ignoring all the other changes to the game, added tanks etc. PMM means nothing today that's why they want to remove it.

I just know because i had fun playing it and now won't even touch it anymore after a couple of matches :S



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You don't need to make another thread about it, WG knows, read the last Q&A, they will eventually rebalance or refund the outdated premium tanks. When, is anybody's guess.

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View Postdrasko111, on 02 March 2018 - 07:02 PM, said:

 

Your talking about the PMM while ignoring all the other changes to the game, added tanks etc. PMM means nothing today that's why they want to remove it.

I just know because i had fun playing it and now won't even touch it anymore after a couple of matches :S

 

But it's not 100% decided that it will go either. Personally I would rather have an IS-6 that sees tier X with great pen, vs one that sees mostly pure tier 8 games with bad pen. But not everyone would like that. And thus WG is still not sure what direction to take by the sounds of it. But at least we know that after 1.0. The focus will finally shift to those tanks. So it will be a few months still.

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View Postdrasko111, on 02 March 2018 - 07:02 PM, said:

 

Your talking about the PMM while ignoring all the other changes to the game, added tanks etc. PMM means nothing today that's why they want to remove it.

I just know because i had fun playing it and now won't even touch it anymore after a couple of matches :S

 

they don't "want" to remove it, I think they're more discussing their options

which is why I said what I said

 

we can debate all day long how "you" would want the IS-6, but some people would want it to keep its PMM, and just be changed to fit that role instead.

which way is correct? neither, as both are as valid as each other


 

the best thing you can do here is either adapt your way to play it and fit it, or you buy one of the other heavies that does fit what you want


 

View PostBalc0ra, on 02 March 2018 - 07:04 PM, said:

 

But it's not 100% decided that it will go either. Personally I would rather have an IS-6 that sees tier X with great pen, vs one that sees mostly pure tier 8 games with bad pen. But not everyone would like that. And thus WG is still not sure what direction to take by the sounds of it. But at least we know that after 1.0. The focus will finally shift to those tanks. So it will be a few months still.

 

its that ^^

but what WG do with it is their choice, and the players must make a choice on whether they want it, or don't. it will eventually be changed, when after the KV-5? I have no idea, might be months, might be years, they might never change it


 

but what you specifically want, is not their priority

 



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View Postdrasko111, on 02 March 2018 - 06:41 PM, said:

Hello, recently came back to the game my pc or any other consumable and can't believe how bad the tank it is now...

I got the tank it a long time ago. I enjoyed it, but today in 2018 It's a damn joke.

 

It costs almost the same amount of gold as Löwe and T34 back then as a new one right now but has no chance against those same tankspc's

 

Why are they not buffing it? 

 

 

See what I did there?



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View Postdrasko111, on 02 March 2018 - 07:02 PM, said:

PMM means nothing today that's why they want to remove it.

 

Sorry you lost me here. You're saying being tier 8 and not having to deal with tier 10s means nothing? Jog on. 

 

On a more positive (?) note, WG have said they're still looking at PMM tonks, so there's that. 

 

p.s. IS-6 is fine IMO. Yes, I've played it, yes since the MM changes. 



Rokim #12 Posted 27 April 2018 - 03:28 PM

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Soon 6 years anniversary guys IS-6, released Q2 2012, stats same. Currently 55 tier 8 premium tanks in game and by winrate is6 is in 52 place. Now Im waiting for one of 4 options when anniversary hits: A: remove pref mm and tank gets +30 mm hull armor +100mm turret armor and +50mm pen on gun B:downgrade tank to tier 7 C: tank gets +20mm pen on gun +50mm turret armor and improved accuracy and aimtime D: option to refound tank for 11800gold or exchange for Kirovets-1.

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The Match Maker should treat it as a Tier 7 that never sees tier 5.

 

It gets far too many full tier 8 and tier8/9 games.

It was meant to see tier 6s and 7s with its tier 7, 175 pen gun.



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If they buff it it's going to have to be a Defender-ish style tank...
Or they should just drop it a tier, remove pmm, nerf it a bit to be in line with the tier 7 heavies and buff all 175 pen 122mm guns slightly but not over 190 AP and 240 APCR / HEAT .

Edited by Enforcer1975, 27 April 2018 - 03:44 PM.


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so another there's no need to buff the IS-6 just nerf all the OP crappost

Rokim #16 Posted 27 April 2018 - 03:51 PM

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On second thought, refound me half back so 5900gold and we are even and than u can stuck it in ur arses.

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View PostRokim, on 27 April 2018 - 03:28 PM, said:

Soon 6 years anniversary guys IS-6, released Q2 2012, stats same. Currently 55 tier 8 premium tanks in game and by winrate is6 is in 52 place. Now Im waiting for one of 4 options when anniversary hits: A: remove pref mm and tank gets +30 mm hull armor +100mm turret armor and +50mm pen on gun B:downgrade tank to tier 7 C: tank gets +20mm pen on gun +50mm turret armor and improved accuracy and aimtime D: option to refound tank for 11800gold or exchange for Kirovets-1.

 

5: refund for cash

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View PostRokim, on 27 April 2018 - 02:51 PM, said:

On second thought, refound me half back so 5900gold and we are even and than u can stuck it in ur arses.

 

You may well get a full refund, as per the Super Pershing change...

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6: Bloody something.

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View Postdrasko111, on 02 March 2018 - 05:41 PM, said:

Hello, recently came back to the game and can't believe how bad the tank is now...

I got the tank a long time ago with a healthy number of battles in it and I enjoyed it, but today in 2018 It's a damn joke.

 

It costs almost the same amount of gold as Löwe and T34 but has no chance against those same tanks...don't get me started on what happens if you meet an IS3 or whatever...

PMM means nothing in this new meta so won't even bother talking about that...

Can any programmer who knows about game developing tell me how much time it takes to change the penetration number of 175 to 200+?

My guess It's around 3.465436 seconds?

 

Why are they not buffing it? Is it because it was the first tank which you could win during an event i think and a lot of people got it? So they won't buy any new premiums if it was viable at all?

Maybe they don't know how to increase the penetration or buff it at all? :O

 

 

 

just one of the many recent threads you might have searched;

http://forum.worldof...9#entry15658469






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