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Prowler_DK #1 Posted 03 March 2018 - 01:27 AM

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WARGAMING! I think you lost the final piece of your brain. [edited]UNABLE TO PEN THAT PIECE OF crap!!!!!!

I dont mean "crap" - I mean P I E C E   O F   S H I T!"


Edited by Prowler_DK, 03 March 2018 - 01:29 AM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #2 Posted 03 March 2018 - 01:37 AM

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Just put your aim marker (the center of your reticle) at the very low part of it's front plate and you'll pen. Or you can aim at the center of its commander hatch but that's tricky since there're optics and you can end up with a crit and 0 damage!

Seriously though, you want us to hold your hand or what? come into a training room with the tank you choose and I'll bring the 268/4 let's try and pen this thing frontally! Jeez, I've been penned frontally by tier 8,9 and 10 standard ammo no problem, while wiggling and rocking back and forth. Does it bounce stuff? yeah sure, but it isn't the rock of Gibraltar you think it's!

 

P.S: last night i played a mix of this tank and the strv 103B, i think i bounced more in that tissue armored swede! at least i was confident that unless they got 122 mm gun or larger i was gonna bounce.

 

Sorry if i was harsh but it's really irritating, these topics. Trust me, as a user of the old 263, i am disappointed with the 268/4 (the gun, the dpm, the traverse, the weird armor layout). Whenever you need a 268 as a punching bag just message me in game and i am sorry again.


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Balc0ra #3 Posted 03 March 2018 - 01:41 AM

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Helps to say what tank and gun you used, and where you aimed on it. And what angle it had vs you. Because if those 4 don't match up. It don't help who much you scream here.

 

Then again this is easier to pen that then the E3 and it's 330 cupola most times. So I'm not complaining.



yun9 #4 Posted 03 March 2018 - 06:51 AM

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268v4 is OP. WG admitted it's overperforming (who would've ever seen that one coming) so it'll get nerfed when WG's made enough money from people freeXP'ing it. 

 

Your attitude could use some working on however

 

 



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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 03 March 2018 - 01:37 AM, said:

Just put your aim marker (the center of your reticle) at the very low part of it's front plate and you'll pen. 

 

Sure....unless you are prone under the tank it's almost autobounce angle and that part is very difficult to hit especially when that thing is charging you and almost impossible at greater ranges due to the inaccuracy of the guns ( unless you are in a russian tank ). I bounced a 288 pen apcr shell ( S1 ) on the lower plate of that thing at 50m when it charged me from the top of the slope on Westfield. 

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Wg - "we are "listening" to players feedback and have to "nerfed" a Obj 268-4 armor by 2mm frontally so you can shot "weekspots" now. But since its a turretlles TD and can be "flanked easily" we had to buff a little his travers to 55 so he have more chances of survival"

Edited by Szatanshow, 03 March 2018 - 07:29 AM.


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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 03 March 2018 - 01:37 AM, said:

Does it bounce stuff? yeah sure, but it isn't the rock of Gibraltar you think it's!

 

P.S: last night i played a mix of this tank and the strv 103B, i think i bounced more in that tissue armored swede! at least i was confident that unless they got 122 mm gun or larger i was gonna bounce.

 

Sorry if i was harsh but it's really irritating, these topics. Trust me, as a user of the old 263, i am disappointed with the 268/4 (the gun, the dpm, the traverse, the weird armor layout). Whenever you need a 268 as a punching bag just message me in game and i am sorry again.

 

And somehow it is your tank with the most blocked damage, surpassing both the type 4 and the type 5. And any other tank you own. It may not be the rock of gibraltar but that doesn't mean it isn't broken.

 

As a coincidence it is also the tank you do the most damage in, and that is by a huge margin.

 

You may claim you are disappointed by it but that is either lies or just bad perception since it is, by far, the tank you perform the best in. If you are disappointed in it you are wrong since it is absurdly broken. It is as simple as that.


Edited by HugSeal, 03 March 2018 - 09:07 AM.


gunslingerXXX #8 Posted 03 March 2018 - 09:01 AM

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I think the main problem is it's speed. It's basically a (super)heavy going 50 km/h. Gives player too much flexibility to react rather than plan upfront, this is what allows high WR.

 



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View PostgunslingerXXX, on 03 March 2018 - 09:01 AM, said:

I think the main problem is it's speed. It's basically a (super)heavy going 50 km/h. Gives player too much flexibility to react rather than plan upfront, this is what allows high WR.

 

 

This! 

Its like WG buffed the T30 to go 50 km/h.



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It's the same problem the Grille had, it's too fast for everything else it brings to the table. Want a super heavy armored assault TD that can push a flank? Sure, but it shouldn't be able to outpace mediums.

TacticusMK2 #11 Posted 03 March 2018 - 09:17 AM

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The insane speed in combination with its ridiculous armor is indeed the problem. 

 

Just sit it out, they will get nerfed since right now they are breaking the game. 



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View PostProwler_DK, on 03 March 2018 - 01:27 AM, said:

WARGAMING! I think you lost the final piece of your brain. [edited]UNABLE TO PEN THAT PIECE OF crap!!!!!!

I dont mean "crap" - I mean P I E C E   O F   S H I T!"

 

Someone is feeling salty :harp:

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View PostProwler_DK, on 03 March 2018 - 02:27 AM, said:

WARGAMING! I think you lost the final piece of your brain. [edited]UNABLE TO PEN THAT PIECE OF crap!!!!!!

I dont mean "crap" - I mean P I E C E   O F   S H I T!"

 

In the words of our beloved WG staff , flank it . (irony)

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View PostSolstad1069, on 03 March 2018 - 09:07 AM, said:

 

This! 

Its like WG buffed the T30 to go 50 km/h.

 

But the T30 doesn't have the gun handling, armor and slightly less potential dpm since the gun is so derpy. Also you should compare it to the E4 since the T30 is not a tier 10 and it still overshadows the E4 by a great margin.

https://tanks.gg/com...-4?t=t30~t110e4

 

View PostgunslingerXXX, on 03 March 2018 - 09:01 AM, said:

I think the main problem is it's speed. It's basically a (super)heavy going 50 km/h. Gives player too much flexibility to react rather than plan upfront, this is what allows high WR.

 

 

Yeah the engine just has too much power. Also traverse needs to be adressed. 

LordMuffin #15 Posted 03 March 2018 - 10:33 AM

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View PostSolstad1069, on 03 March 2018 - 09:07 AM, said:

 

This! 

Its like WG buffed the T30 to go 50 km/h.

And gave it 300mm frontal armour.



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View PostHugSeal, on 03 March 2018 - 09:48 AM, said:

 

And somehow it is your tank with the most blocked damage, surpassing both the type 4 and the type 5. And any other tank you own. It may not be the rock of gibraltar but that doesn't mean it isn't broken.

 

I already said it does bounce but bouncing shots doesn't win games!

 

As a coincidence it is also the tank you do the most damage in, and that is by a huge margin.

 

I don't have that many tier 10 tanks to compare in that aspect? I have 3 tier 10 TDs, one of them is the strv. So maybe we cut the crap and get real here? What's wrong with this argument is that I didn't get all those tanks at once. My average on a tank now is better than my average on a tank that i got 3 or 4 months ago and will be worse on a tank that I'll get 3 or 4 months from now. But after all i think you are discussing me here and not the 268/4 which is the subject of this topic!!!

 

You may claim you are disappointed by it but that is either lies or just bad perception since it is, by far, the tank you perform the best in. If you are disappointed in it you are wrong since it is absurdly broken. It is as simple as that.

 

So either i am a liar or wrong, you don't leave much room for doubt do you? anyway i am neither. It's a game and i am supposed to enjoy the tank i play and as far i can tell i enjoyed the 263 much more than this POS. Stats and how the tank performs globally doesn't matter to me if i have to play with this derp gun and this gimped dpm. To me it's a crap gun mounted on a crap platform, you don't have to agree with that if you like it then fine go play it but i am stating my personal opinion and my experience with this tank.

 

One optimal solution to this crap storm we live in regarding this tank, is to reverse the changes made to tier 9 and 10. Give us back the 263 as it was and introduce a new tier 9 TD instead of the removed SU-122 54. You don't want it in the game and so am i. Unless of course you want something else, maybe another useless jgpz/268/grille maybe???


Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 03 March 2018 - 11:28 AM.


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View PostEnforcer1975, on 03 March 2018 - 07:56 AM, said:

 

Sure....unless you are prone under the tank it's almost autobounce angle and that part is very difficult to hit especially when that thing is charging you and almost impossible at greater ranges due to the inaccuracy of the guns ( unless you are in a russian tank ). I bounced a 288 pen apcr shell ( S1 ) on the lower plate of that thing at 50m when it charged me from the top of the slope on Westfield. 

 

So it's hard to hit or hard to pen but not impossible. So are most of the armored things at tier 10 and so was the 263 when hull down. You remember bouncing heat around the gun shield of the 263?


Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 03 March 2018 - 11:05 AM.


veso_vn #18 Posted 03 March 2018 - 11:11 AM

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the problem is that the tanks is very fast and the traverse speed is very high . The tanks is faster than t62a and its very hard to flank due to traverse speed. In the same time have double the weight 

XxKuzkina_MatxX #19 Posted 03 March 2018 - 11:15 AM

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View Postveso_vn, on 03 March 2018 - 12:11 PM, said:

the problem is that the tanks is very fast and the traverse speed is very high . The tanks is faster than t62a and its very hard to flank due to traverse speed. In the same time have double the weight 

 

23 degrees/second. 7th worst traverse speed in all tier 10 tanks (not just TDs). You mean the reverse speed?



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View Postyun9, on 03 March 2018 - 06:51 AM, said:

268v4 is OP. WG admitted it's overperforming (who would've ever seen that one coming) so it'll get nerfed when WG's made enough money from people freeXP'ing it.

 

 

 

So clearly going to get nerfed that I wonder how many will bother free XPing this one.




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