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Metalmangorlo #1 Posted 04 March 2018 - 04:05 PM

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This is the picture of 90% of the fun games. WG should have to make some kind of SKILL based mm, because the current is terrible.

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Sfinski #2 Posted 04 March 2018 - 04:08 PM

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We've been through this plenty of times. Skillbased wouldn't work. 


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Balc0ra #3 Posted 04 March 2018 - 04:08 PM

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And you always carry this hard right? Never done zero damage either? When a flank fails and others react slow to it, because their HT's went the medium line etc. So half your guns were useless. Then you get that. As that's more or less 90% of the steam rolls.

 

And as AW showed. Skilled based MM won't fix anything. It made it worse there.


Edited by Balc0ra, 04 March 2018 - 04:09 PM.


Homer_J #4 Posted 04 March 2018 - 05:01 PM

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View PostMetalmangorlo, on 04 March 2018 - 03:05 PM, said:

This is the picture of 90% of the fun games. WG should have to make some kind of SKILL based mm, because the current is terrible.

 

You did all that damage and only 1 kill?  And it's not like people were stealing your kills since only four low tier enemies died.

 

Maybe stop padding your damage stats and start finishing off some enemies?



Enforcer1975 #5 Posted 04 March 2018 - 05:12 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 04 March 2018 - 05:01 PM, said:

 

You did all that damage and only 1 kill?  And it's not like people were stealing your kills since only four low tier enemies died.

 

Maybe stop padding your damage stats and start finishing off some enemies?

 

Having high damage with low to zero kills isn't impossible. I had enough games where i did 2-4k damage and didn't have kills because i had enough teammates prioritizing low health tanks for kills.

Here is one of the recent games on Erlenberg. All of the damage except those 1490 from ammoracking a T-10 were point blank. I only used AP.

 


Edited by Enforcer1975, 04 March 2018 - 05:13 PM.


vasilinhorulezz #6 Posted 04 March 2018 - 05:51 PM

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It's been a while since we had one of those.:trollface::popcorn:

NoPoet406 #7 Posted 04 March 2018 - 05:53 PM

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My win rate has tumbled from a very hard-earned 47.54% to 47.20%, my worst win rate in forever, after just three days of this stupid 2-garage slot marathon. I've had multiple games where only 3-5 players on my team had a wn8 over 500, while on the other team, only three players had wn8 under 500. I stopped taking screenshots because there's no point, we all know what it's like.

 

Why does the difficulty level of the game become obnoxious every time there's even a minor event? I'm on my worst loss streak in months, and I only needed 5 kills today but I've had one kill in about ten to twelve games, my worst performance in ages. And yesterday I only needed 3 wins and got them, mixed in with more than a dozen defeats.

 

Tanks on console feels like a game. Tanks on PC is like an exercise in pointless death against stupidly high skill levels.



Homer_J #8 Posted 04 March 2018 - 06:09 PM

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 04 March 2018 - 04:12 PM, said:

 

Having high damage with low to zero kills isn't impossible. I had enough games where i did 2-4k damage and didn't have kills because i had enough teammates prioritizing low health tanks for kills.

Here is one of the recent games on Erlenberg. All of the damage except those 1490 from ammoracking a T-10 were point blank. I only used AP.

 

 

Exactly what I was saying.  Damage is no use unless someone turns it into a kill.

AngerManagement1 #9 Posted 04 March 2018 - 06:12 PM

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View PostSfinski, on 04 March 2018 - 03:08 PM, said:

We've been through this plenty of times. Skillbased wouldn't work. 

 

Why not?

Jigabachi #10 Posted 04 March 2018 - 06:36 PM

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View PostSfinski, on 04 March 2018 - 04:08 PM, said:

We've been through this plenty of times. Skillbased wouldn't work. 

That is true for the two variations that get discussed here most of the time.

One major problem with all the discussions about "skillbased MM" still is that most people basically have no idea what that even is - or what it can be.

 

edit: OP got 60EXP more than the second guy in his team, who did less than half OP's damage. He most likely hid in the background.


Edited by Jigabachi, 04 March 2018 - 10:52 PM.


shortfuse1418 #11 Posted 04 March 2018 - 06:41 PM

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Today has been horrific, with a horrendous win rate dive. ROFL stomped on numerous occasions and consistently getting into the to 3 but still losing. Trying for the tier 6/7 bonus using t34-85M, dicker max and panther m10. Absolutely horrific teams, I played badly occasionally but the standard today was awful. Time to take a break!!!,!

P33K #12 Posted 04 March 2018 - 07:40 PM

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Weekends are worse than normal, usually win% drop is quaranteed no matter the achieved wn. If that bothers, play only on weekdays.

Metalmangorlo #13 Posted 05 March 2018 - 07:02 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 04 March 2018 - 05:01 PM, said:

 

You did all that damage and only 1 kill?  And it's not like people were stealing your kills since only four low tier enemies died.

 

Maybe stop padding your damage stats and start finishing off some enemies?

 

I've lower the hp to the bots to finish them. Theay couldnt. Ok next time i'll let t44 to take out type five. I've faced 6 tanks in the same time because heavy line failed. Believe me i now what i do.

TheWarrener #14 Posted 05 March 2018 - 07:39 AM

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Oh look, wot has some really bad players on weekend. In other news - wet water has been found 

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TacticusMK2 #15 Posted 05 March 2018 - 07:59 AM

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There is nothing wrong with win rates in the weekend.

 



Mimos_A #16 Posted 05 March 2018 - 09:03 AM

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View PostNoPoet406, on 04 March 2018 - 05:53 PM, said:

My win rate has tumbled from a very hard-earned 47.54% to 47.20%, my worst win rate in forever, after just three days of this stupid 2-garage slot marathon. I've had multiple games where only 3-5 players on my team had a wn8 over 500, while on the other team, only three players had wn8 under 500. I stopped taking screenshots because there's no point, we all know what it's like.

 

Why does the difficulty level of the game become obnoxious every time there's even a minor event? I'm on my worst loss streak in months, and I only needed 5 kills today but I've had one kill in about ten to twelve games, my worst performance in ages. And yesterday I only needed 3 wins and got them, mixed in with more than a dozen defeats.

 

Tanks on console feels like a game. Tanks on PC is like an exercise in pointless death against stupidly high skill levels.

 

More players are on during weekends, especially if there's an event. This means there's more bad players and more good players. So the already pretty immense skill gap becomes fairly obvious during most games. Seeing as there's more bad players than good ones the chances of getting a full team of bad players is also higher. More than anything it matters to do damage where it counts during days like that. "Raw" damage is pretty easy to farm, as there's enough clueless people on the enemy team as well, so it's important to make sure you're fighting tanks that are actually threatening your chance to win, not just targets of opportunity.

 

But yeah, it can be immensely frustrating. I gave up on trying to get my daily doubles on some low tier tanks this weekend after a 10 game streak of getting roflstomped in a bottom tier tank...


Edited by Mimos_A, 05 March 2018 - 09:05 AM.


Homer_J #17 Posted 05 March 2018 - 09:55 AM

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View PostTacticusMK2, on 05 March 2018 - 06:59 AM, said:

There is nothing wrong with win rates in the weekend.

 

 

 

You know, not everyone can be losing more than they win.  If you lose then someone else wins.  You just got unlucky.

Enforcer1975 #18 Posted 05 March 2018 - 10:10 AM

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Just had a bot player in an ONi who ran away every time the enemy got closer. He was running away from an IS-3 who farmed him while the ONi did 0 damage in return....looked up the stats...account created 2012, played 1k games, 33 tanks, 44.8% WR, 84 WN8, 129 average damage and literally failed his way up to the ONi.

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NoobySkooby #19 Posted 05 March 2018 - 10:25 AM

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Must be a very small minority here but those who play purely for fun do not really give a stuff about win rates, I go in 'toon' and have a laugh, purely for fun.

 



TungstenHitman #20 Posted 05 March 2018 - 10:29 AM

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I think players need to keep their win rate expectations realistic. There are some exceptional players in this game but they are very few and even they can only manage a 6 games in 10 win rate so for most players that play well enough it's only 5 wins in 10 I'm afraid with the odd day of 100% and 0%.  So that kept in mind, winning and losing is a flip of a coin and all you can is whatever you can do to lean that result toward a win but you play better than you've ever played and still have a losing streak, 1 player in 29 can't completely dictate the result you have to have teammates that can even simply last a little bit longer, offer enough time for a really good player to inflict enough losses and damage to the enemy team. If your teammates are so atrociously bad they melt in seconds you're not winning vs 13-15 100% hp enemy tanks alone no matter who you are and no matter how bad those 13-15 enemy players are.

 

A skill based MM? Nah and I'll tell you why not.

 

1. There are only a tiny handful of excellent players, I am certainly not one of those. This would mean this tiny portion of players would only end up battle each other and seeing each other almost every battle, that doesn't seem like fun.

 

2. As much as it's rough to get stomped with the dimwit team it's REALLY fun when you are stomping the dimwit team. That's the kind of fun I would hate to see removed! So I am happy to suffer being stomped on for some battles with the expectation of having my moments of stomping on other players in return.

 

3. I think it would create an ultra camping hard redlining everyone afraid to try or do anything situation. No matter how good you are, the opposition would be kept just as good or close to that so if your'e an 8k WN8 unicum, so is your enemy, that's not a fun environment to play in.

 

4. Pools medals, Radleys, Kolobanovs, High Calibers etc... forget about them, you won't ever see another, is that fun? Not to me, I always like going into a battle thinking I have a chance for something special. Way I play and see it, I click battle and there are 15 enemy tanks before me at the start of battle and I have 100% hp, there is an Ace tanker round, a Radleys, a Pools, every possible medal and possibility is there for me and it's up to me and lady luck to go and get this result. I like to think I can have a chance at that even if it's the low percentage, this is how I play, if that chance is gone, I wouldn't have fun.






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