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Poll: Obj.257 TOO OP! (210 members have cast votes)

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Is Obj.257 OP?

  1. Yes (106 votes [50.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.48%

  2. No (104 votes [49.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 49.52%

Should it be nerfed?

  1. Yes. (99 votes [47.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 47.14%

  2. No. (111 votes [52.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 52.86%

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_SpartanWarrior_ #1 Posted 05 March 2018 - 10:42 PM

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Object 257 is TOO OP!!!!!!It can very hardly be penetrated!Good gun,good mobility,OP OP OP AF armor!Nerf the armor!

That tank,Stupid. 257,on SIDES,it cannot be penetrated.Where ever aiming.Front lower plate...hardly.

I think that that tank isnt fair,and needs to be nerfed.This is my opinion,its OP AF.

WG,Please nerf it!



Brodie_ #2 Posted 05 March 2018 - 10:58 PM

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It was.
But they did sort it out.
I tore one apart today in my T10.
It is very strong in certain situations though.
Though it is a problem for lower tiers.
The new Russian tier 10 TD is a much bigger problem.


gunslingerXXX #3 Posted 06 March 2018 - 01:01 AM

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Its just stupid game mechanic imo when you cannot pen a tank from the side. I don't care about the typical Russian hull shape, I just want to pen if I manage to flank a tank.

Balc0ra #4 Posted 06 March 2018 - 01:05 AM

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Is it OP because you can't pen it because you have no idea where on the side to aim at it? Or because you always drive tanks with to low pen vs it? Because my guns have no issues raping it head on or at the flat side. If your caliber is high enough, you can even overmatch the plate above the gun.

 

Then again it don't even have a 50% WR on EU after the tomatoes came around to playing it. So it can't be that OP.



TacticusMK2 #5 Posted 06 March 2018 - 01:15 AM

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Really? Obj 257? From all the new Obj. tanks this is the one you are bothered about?

 

Obj 286 v4 - Russian bias in it's most disgusting form.

Obj 430U, Obj 750A etc.... 

 

All OP as fewk. Obj 257 is tricky, but I don't shy away from those.



MrClark56 #6 Posted 06 March 2018 - 05:17 AM

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my 29% WR in it shows how OP it is in my hands... but i am a noob so yeah...

TheWarrener #7 Posted 06 March 2018 - 06:01 AM

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Did you just have a stroke 

imendars #8 Posted 06 March 2018 - 07:52 AM

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View PostBrodie_, on 06 March 2018 - 12:58 AM, said:

It was.
But they did sort it out.
I tore one apart today in my T10.
It is very strong in certain situations though.
Though it is a problem for lower tiers.
The new Russian tier 10 TD is a much bigger problem.

 

In russian Q/A they said they might buff that new td...

I see a bright future for my new lowly td... :trollface:   :popcorn:



MarioDR #9 Posted 06 March 2018 - 08:34 AM

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View Post_SpartanWarrior_, on 05 March 2018 - 10:42 PM, said:

Object 257 is TOO OP!!!!!!It can very hardly be penetrated!Good gun,good mobility,OP OP OP AF armor!Nerf the armor!

That tank,Stupid. 257,on SIDES,it cannot be penetrated.Where ever aiming.Front lower plate...hardly.

I think that that tank isnt fair,and needs to be nerfed.This is my opinion,its OP AF.

WG,Please nerf it!

 

No wonder why you have 47% win ratio after 30k battles ...

Edited by MarioDR, 06 March 2018 - 08:34 AM.


bgjudge #10 Posted 06 March 2018 - 09:09 AM

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View Post_SpartanWarrior_, on 05 March 2018 - 09:42 PM, said:

Object 257 is TOO OP!!!!!!It can very hardly be penetrated!Good gun,good mobility,OP OP OP AF armor!Nerf the armor!

That tank,Stupid. 257,on SIDES,it cannot be penetrated.Where ever aiming.Front lower plate...hardly.

I think that that tank isnt fair,and needs to be nerfed.This is my opinion,its OP AF.

WG,Please nerf it!

 

47% win rate=> Get 52% and more and you will find out how to take them out, without any problems.

257 is a joke. You dont even need premium rounds to take down that tank. Never had any problems with it. And now with 45 side armor many tanks can OVERMATCH THE WHOLE SIDE of the tank( without the very top). "T10" is better tank for me.

Stop auto-aiming little happy strawberries and get some skills.



Soifon99 #11 Posted 06 March 2018 - 09:16 AM

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the 257 is very weak from the front, you can pen the upper and lower front plate easy with 220+ guns.. 

 

i have had 0 problems with these tanks.. don't know what all the fuzz is about.



leggasiini #12 Posted 06 March 2018 - 09:24 AM

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I don't think that it's that overperforming (at least compared to some other disgusting abominations they introduced this patch), just because the gun seems shitty, armor is very unreliable against same and higher tier tanks and as it's not as fast as the T-10 is, but it's broken for sure and just a terrible gameplay design. I can imagine it not being fun to play at all, but it is extremely frustrating to play against, especially in a lower tier vehicle, and in general can be really annoying to face with anything, because the armor can troll you from almost any direction.

 

They should just remove it and replace it with something else that not only is less frustrating to play against, but that also fits the playstyle of the IS-3 and IS-7 more. Those are heavies with good turrets, trollish (but not really as reliable compared to many other HTs) hull armor, good mobility and so on, but then you have this 257 which is an awkward reverse sidescraper. 



Noo_Noo #13 Posted 06 March 2018 - 09:32 AM

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It's awkward but backwards isn't it? 


Shoot it in the front and rear while avoiding the sides



SlyMeerkat #14 Posted 06 March 2018 - 09:46 AM

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Indifferent 

TacticusMK2 #15 Posted 06 March 2018 - 10:05 AM

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View Postbgjudge, on 06 March 2018 - 09:09 AM, said:

 

47% win rate=> Get 52% and more and you will find out how to take them out, without any problems.

257 is a joke. You dont even need premium rounds to take down that tank. Never had any problems with it. And now with 45 side armor many tanks can OVERMATCH THE WHOLE SIDE of the tank( without the very top). "T10" is better tank for me.

Stop auto-aiming little happy strawberries and get some skills.

 

So when people get a higher win rate in a random team based game they magically find out how to take out tanks? Who are you kidding? I've seen tomatoes with positive WR and better players with negative.

Igor_BL #16 Posted 06 March 2018 - 10:25 AM

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View PostTacticusMK2, on 06 March 2018 - 01:15 AM, said:

Really? Obj 257? From all the new Obj. tanks this is the one you are bothered about?

 

Obj 286 v4 - Russian bias in it's most disgusting form.

Obj 430U, Obj 750A etc.... 

 

All OP as fewk. Obj 257 is tricky, but I don't shy away from those.

 

Nice joke.

Dava_117 #17 Posted 06 March 2018 - 10:37 AM

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257 OP? My ISU-152 strongly disagree.:trollface:

The sides sure are trollish but front and rear are butter and the turret has some weackspot too. 

The avarage player should just stop to shoot the sides if your caliber isn't bigger than 135mm.



OneSock #18 Posted 06 March 2018 - 11:28 AM

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I voted no and no. 


It's armour is poor design and is trollish. However, aside from the armour it's actually quite average. So while the armour will troll as top tier vs tier 8 when you get into tier 9/10 (i.e. most of the time) it won't bounce much and here is where it suffers just being "average". 

 

To work well at tier 9/10 you need a niche, mobility, view range, accuracy, high pen, big alpha etc. but it does not shine in any of them. The armour is the special thing, and that is simply negated by pressing the 2 key.



TheDrownedApe #19 Posted 06 March 2018 - 12:37 PM

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View PostSoifon99, on 06 March 2018 - 08:16 AM, said:

the 257 is very weak from the front, you can pen the upper and lower front plate easy with 220+ guns..

 

i have had 0 problems with these tanks.. don't know what all the fuzz is about.

 

 

This.


 

learn to shoot it high on the sides too then you're golden



Igor_BL #20 Posted 06 March 2018 - 12:58 PM

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I had several games where i was "under" it and pen the sides straight. ofc, as soon as it isnt 70% eff. angle.

Yes, you wont get those chances in Maus, or some other tall tanks that often.

but scouts and small profile mediums can have a lot of these oportunites on ridgelines.


Edited by Igor_BL, 06 March 2018 - 12:59 PM.





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