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J_B_T #1 Posted 06 March 2018 - 02:32 PM

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Xp calculation has often been a topic for discussion in this game, but somehow with ranked battles going on, that problem always intensifies. Wasn't my account but it's still painfull to watch and do nothing. I've seen a lot of similar situations, but this one is absolutely retarded to say the least. 

 

Simple proof that something is broken:

Player 1 Foch 155 - 1 tank spotted, 3128 dmg, 2 tanks destroyed - 246 xp in defeat

Player 2 T57 Heavy - 1 tank spotted, 0 dmg, 313 assistance, 0 destroyed - 247 xp in defeat

 

Player 1 managed to spot one and destroy almost two full hp tanks, player 2 did almost nothing except for spotting one tank and earning 300 assistance dmg, yet he got more xp. I know it's a td and all, but this is ridiculous. Even red-lining and camping like a bot in the most distanced corner of the map as a TD is worth more than simply dying with a heavy tank and not doing nothing at all, or at least it should be worth more. 

 

 

XP calculation system obviously needs a new set of parameters since Experience is one of the main things in the game, and involved its every segment from grinding tanks, training crew to earning ranks, doing specific missions, etc. 

 

 

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Agent_327 #2 Posted 06 March 2018 - 02:40 PM

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Well without a replay there is no way to say if he was useless. There are more to the game than spotting and damage. You should know that if you have bothered to read any of the many other threads of this topic.

NUKLEAR_SLUG #3 Posted 06 March 2018 - 02:43 PM

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T57 Heavy is so rigged!!

vasilinhorulezz #4 Posted 06 March 2018 - 03:36 PM

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You do know that when someone else spots for you you get half the xp, and he gets the other half?

Martijn_mk2 #5 Posted 06 March 2018 - 03:41 PM

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 06 March 2018 - 03:36 PM, said:

You do know that when someone else spots for you you get half the xp, and he gets the other half?

Ah now its clear!

3k / 2 = 1500 and 1500 is less than 300..



Spurtung #6 Posted 06 March 2018 - 03:44 PM

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 06 March 2018 - 04:36 PM, said:

You do know that when someone else spots for you you get half the xp, and he gets the other half?

 

Sure, so the T57 with 8 shots without taking any HP, possibly damaged someone's tracks causing a whooping 313 assisted damage is half of how much?

 

 

 

 

View PostAgent_327, on 06 March 2018 - 03:40 PM, said:

Well without a replay there is no way to say if he was useless. There are more to the game than spotting and damage. You should know that if you have bothered to read any of the many other threads of this topic.

 

We can tell it wasn't for spotting tanks, blocking damage, getting assisted damage, capping, resetting or even hitting all the shots of the 2 drums he managed to shoot. So...you mind telling what else could it have been? Even without the replay, use your imagination and find a single plausible reason.


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vasilinhorulezz #7 Posted 06 March 2018 - 03:53 PM

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View PostMartijn_mk2, on 06 March 2018 - 03:41 PM, said:

Ah now its clear!

3k / 2 = 1500 and 1500 is less than 300..

 

View PostSpurtung, on 06 March 2018 - 03:44 PM, said:

 

Sure, so the T57 with 8 shots without taking any HP, possibly damaged someone's tracks causing a whooping 313 assisted damage is half of how much?

 

Apparently, I needed to do that, because people...

You do realize:

shots from less than 200m give more xp

spotting enemies for the first time gives xp

shooting at own spots don't share xp

surviving gives xp (so staying alive, even if you're not doing anything actually gives xp)

and in general no one really knows the exact formula of how xp are calculated

so, unless you know the exact formula, you don't have any proof of how the xp gain can be rigged

 

so in the end, if you can't prove it STFU.



8126Jakobsson #8 Posted 06 March 2018 - 03:59 PM

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He went to the brawl spot and soaked up xp flying from the damage that was done around him. No work required, just be close. 

Martijn_mk2 #9 Posted 06 March 2018 - 03:59 PM

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I'm not saying anything is rigged, i'm only saying your explanation of why he got more XP makes no sense.

So maybe you STFU?

douglarse #10 Posted 06 March 2018 - 04:30 PM

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What sort of potatoe takes a Foch 155 in ranked?



J_B_T #11 Posted 06 March 2018 - 04:34 PM

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View PostAgent_327, on 06 March 2018 - 01:40 PM, said:

Well without a replay there is no way to say if he was useless. There are more to the game than spotting and damage. You should know that if you have bothered to read any of the many other threads of this topic.

 

Always at least one smartass..I know that "There is more to the game than spotting and doing damage" ffs.

I wasn't wondering how could this happen, I already know that. My point was that this is wrong, and shouldn't be like this.

 


Edited by J_B_T, 06 March 2018 - 04:39 PM.


Spurtung #12 Posted 06 March 2018 - 05:12 PM

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 06 March 2018 - 04:53 PM, said:

 

 

Apparently, I needed to do that, because people...

You do realize:

shots from less than 200m give more xp

spotting enemies for the first time gives xp

shooting at own spots don't share xp

surviving gives xp (so staying alive, even if you're not doing anything actually gives xp)

and in general no one really knows the exact formula of how xp are calculated

so, unless you know the exact formula, you don't have any proof of how the xp gain can be rigged

 

so in the end, if you can't prove it STFU.

 

Can you prove anything from your own list?

- you got no data to tell if his 8 shots were under 200m. You also got no data to prove that taking shots under 200m gives some extra XP, but who cares?

- T57 spotted one vehicle. Yay!

- shooting own spots for no damage. Yay!

- everyone got destroyed. The color is different because he's selected, look at the right side of that screenshot, at the top: "Destroyed by a shot". So this point is pretty pointless. Pun intended.

- true, nobody knows anything exactly, which is the whole point of this thread: to figure out what could explain such a thing. Mind you, it wouldn't matter a whole lot, but that 1XP difference means the T57 got to keep the chevron while the Foch lost it.

 

So, unless you can make a guess, and considering you have no more proof than the next guy

 

Kindly, STFU yourself


Edited by Spurtung, 06 March 2018 - 05:12 PM.


vasilinhorulezz #13 Posted 06 March 2018 - 05:16 PM

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View PostSpurtung, on 06 March 2018 - 05:12 PM, said:

 

Can you prove anything from your own list?

- you got no data to tell if his 8 shots were under 200m. You also got no data to prove that taking shots under 200m gives some extra XP, but who cares?

- T57 spotted one vehicle. Yay!

- shooting own spots for no damage. Yay!

- everyone got destroyed. The color is different because he's selected, look at the right side of that screenshot, at the top: "Destroyed by a shot". So this point is pretty pointless. Pun intended.

- true, nobody knows anything exactly, which is the whole point of this thread: to figure out what could explain such a thing. Mind you, it wouldn't matter a whole lot, but that 1XP difference means the T57 got to keep the chevron while the Foch lost it.

 

So, unless you can make a guess, and considering you have no more proof than the next guy

 

Kindly, STFU yourself

 

OK then,

where's the replay then?



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View PostAgent_327, on 06 March 2018 - 02:40 PM, said:

Well without a replay there is no way to say if he was useless. There are more to the game than spotting and damage. You should know that if you have bothered to read any of the many other threads of this topic.

 

I don't know.... 1 tank spotted, 0 dmg, 313 assistance, 0 destroyed sounds pretty useless to me. If that's really how WG wants us to play then i will keep botting and afking in my future games. 

TacticusMK2 #15 Posted 06 March 2018 - 05:21 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 06 March 2018 - 02:43 PM, said:

T57 Heavy is so rigged!!

 

Murican bias!!!! Victor trying to get green card i bet!

vasilinhorulezz #16 Posted 06 March 2018 - 05:27 PM

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Bottom line is:

we don't know what happened in that battle

we don't know how the xp formula is calculated, and what affect xp and by how much,

 

 

so, stop with those threads, we're tired of it.



Hero_of_Tython #17 Posted 06 March 2018 - 05:28 PM

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It might not be the case but did the Foch do any team damage? That has a negative affect on XP doesn't it.

It is about the only reason I can come up with why the Foch is behind several other tanks with less damage and few kills than the Foch. Mind you didn't I read that Ranked XP was broken ATM?



Aikl #18 Posted 06 March 2018 - 05:30 PM

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Wait a second, isn't it the IS-7 that is supposed to be 'rigged'?

LepiSale #19 Posted 06 March 2018 - 05:32 PM

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Bots must be awarded.

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 06 March 2018 - 06:16 PM, said:

 

OK then,

where's the replay then?

 

Replay? You list conjectures to make a point and when I ask you where you got the information you so diligently compiled you ask me for the replay? Wut?





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