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Procjon #1 Posted 07 March 2018 - 04:42 AM

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I hope someone can explain me what are THE RULES of achieving those lovely bonds as i have no clue.

 

For example.

 

I play a good game, top 3 by experience, some standard honorary ranks, some commemorative tokens, ZERO medals and i get 1 bond.

 

Next game i afk almost all game - i play at work :angry: - last place by exp, no damage, no medals, basically nothing and i get 7 bonds.

 

Both games are WINs.

 

Where is the logic?

 

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Edited by Procjon, 07 March 2018 - 04:42 AM.


Homer_J #2 Posted 07 March 2018 - 04:56 AM

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There's a couple of ways you get bonds in random battles.

 

You can earn them for getting certain medals at any tier. https://worldoftanks...nds-and-medals/

 

Or you get them based on exp earned in all tier X battles. https://worldoftanks...-grand-battles/

 

7 bonds in an all tier X with no medals would mean 700 base exp.  If you got 1 bond then you would have to have got a medal.

 

I'm guessing you don't have the results screens or replays?


Edited by Homer_J, 07 March 2018 - 05:00 AM.


Procjon #3 Posted 07 March 2018 - 05:21 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 07 March 2018 - 03:56 AM, said:

There's a couple of ways you get bonds in random battles.

 

You can earn them for getting certain medals at any tier. https://worldoftanks...nds-and-medals/

 

Or you get them based on exp earned in all tier X battles. https://worldoftanks...-grand-battles/

 

7 bonds in an all tier X with no medals would mean 700 base exp.  If you got 1 bond then you would have to have got a medal.

 

I'm guessing you don't have the results screens or replays?

 

Unfortunately i don't have any screens to show it but such scenarios are not exceptions so once i get new i will update my thread. 

 

I understand bonds when i get medals and this looks like it is working good. The confusion i have with games such as in the 1st post when basically afking the whole game gives me more bonds than when i play 100% and end up being top 3.

 

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Homer_J #4 Posted 07 March 2018 - 06:47 AM

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Well you could easily be last place by exp and still get the 700 or so needed for 7 bonds.

 

1 bond can only be explained by getting a medal, so unless you can furnish proof then the evidence is you are mistaken.



Geno1isme #5 Posted 07 March 2018 - 10:27 AM

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View PostProcjon, on 07 March 2018 - 06:21 AM, said:

I understand bonds when i get medals and this looks like it is working good. The confusion i have with games such as in the 1st post when basically afking the whole game gives me more bonds than when i play 100% and end up being top 3.

 

WG wants you to play T10. Therefore they made T10 games the only viable way to earn bonds. Playing well helps with it, but isn't required.

The bonds-for-medals mechanic at lower tiers is just a bad joke to stop people from complaining about bonds being a T10-exclusive feature (though it practically still is).



TungstenHitman #6 Posted 07 March 2018 - 10:37 AM

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How much bonds do you get with these ranked battles? Is it worth bothering with? I have an IS7 I never use and about 1700 bounds thereabouts, how many battles of gold spamming like a mofo do I need to do to get enough bonds for one of those fancy pants optics or something?

Aikl #7 Posted 07 March 2018 - 11:14 AM

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View PostTungstenHitman, on 07 March 2018 - 09:37 AM, said:

How much bonds do you get with these ranked battles? Is it worth bothering with? I have an IS7 I never use and about 1700 bounds thereabouts, how many battles of gold spamming like a mofo do I need to do to get enough bonds for one of those fancy pants optics or something?

 

You get bonds for earning some/most ranks, as well as a end-of-season reward if you place on the leaderboard (top 50%). I don't really think it's worth bothering with, but if you have the time and credits I bet you can get close to earning enough bonds.

 

Hard to say exactly how many/how much you have to play. Depends quite a bit on luck, as well as skill and time spent. Couple of my clanmates have reached the III-league with 40-60 battles played, for instance, with chevron-earning at 55-60%. That's 1250 bonds, plus ~2100 bonds from the ranks earned. Those are good players experienced with playing T10.

On the flip side, I see clanmates who has fought ~160 without even getting into the third league, but presumably rank 8. It's a lot down to luck. If you look at the top leaderboard, that becomes very much apparent.

 

The reason I'm not bothering too much is not being particularly good with T10 tanks. Might try for the third rank, however - I have plenty of credits, tanks that can be ran cheaply, some time available and lack ~120 bonds to get some improved equipment.



Luctor_ #8 Posted 07 March 2018 - 11:40 AM

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Pay to win!

It goes for bonds aswell, indirectly. Spam gold ammo - no skill required - do a lot of damage; Ranked high in your team you get bonds (tier 10), get medals, more bonds. Same goes for Ranked Battles, whereas I quit RB due to high spam of gold ammunition, as I can't affort to use gold shells. Hence draining the fun out of this competition.   

 

From an average point of view player, bonds are not working. It takes so very long to get enough to buy 1 equipment piece (5k bonds). While on the field you meet players with 3x improved equipment on their tank. The richer getting rich (spam gold ammo thus have the advantage damage wise + improved equipment) while the poor meddle with normal ammo and ricochet the oppenent.  

 

So no bonds are not working.



wiggles #9 Posted 07 March 2018 - 11:53 AM

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Playing at work so afk most of the battle? It's a lucky team that gets you.

Rage_Quit_Inc #10 Posted 07 March 2018 - 12:44 PM

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View Postwiggles, on 07 March 2018 - 10:53 AM, said:

Playing at work so afk most of the battle? It's a lucky team that gets you.

 

This... I wont hit battle unless I know im in it till the end

CaravanOfCourage #11 Posted 07 March 2018 - 01:55 PM

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I dont really keep a track, I just know in one game I got 22 bonds I think. but not sure what for lol

discontinued #12 Posted 07 March 2018 - 02:42 PM

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Yay bonds

In 10 years I might get enough for a toolbox.

Best just to use the ones you have for firefighing.

demon_tank #13 Posted 07 March 2018 - 03:34 PM

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Wait arent bonds earnable in Tier 8 PREMIUM tanks as well ?

Cannes76 #14 Posted 07 March 2018 - 04:06 PM

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2 ways to get bonds in random battles (discounting any mission rewards).
Medals and getting more than 400 base xp in a full tier X battle.
Its not rocket science.

IncandescentGerbil #15 Posted 07 March 2018 - 04:27 PM

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I have 8k bonds without playing more than a handful of ranked games. Now the initial hooha has died down, I don't really see the big deal. Sometimes I think I should blow them on a new piece of shiny equipment, but then I think I probably wouldn't even feel the benefit. I can see the value in those fractional improvements at the highest level, I suppose.

Procjon #16 Posted 07 March 2018 - 07:04 PM

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I posted in different thread how bonds are kind of unworthy. To spend 5000 bonds for a change of 0.04 second from standard to improved equipment is kind of sick unless you are into upgrading at all cost just to reach maximum of upgrades. It is like buying a lambo for 300k and then buying a windshield sticker for another 100k so the wind can pass more freely :facepalm:

 

http://forum.worldof...__fromsearch__1

 

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Procjon #17 Posted 07 March 2018 - 07:06 PM

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View Postwiggles, on 07 March 2018 - 10:53 AM, said:

Playing at work so afk most of the battle? It's a lucky team that gets you.

 

Only an addict can understand the other addict.

 

hf



NUKLEAR_SLUG #18 Posted 07 March 2018 - 07:14 PM

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View PostTungstenHitman, on 07 March 2018 - 10:37 AM, said:

How much bonds do you get with these ranked battles? Is it worth bothering with? I have an IS7 I never use and about 1700 bounds thereabouts, how many battles of gold spamming like a mofo do I need to do to get enough bonds for one of those fancy pants optics or something?

 

The lower tiers should be relatively easy to plow through now as ranked has been running for a couple weeks and the good/bad players have been somewhat sorted out so as long as you're half decent you can do well and pick up chevrons even on the losses. Worst case at least retain the ones you've got.



HeidenSieker #19 Posted 07 March 2018 - 07:50 PM

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View PostLuctor_, on 07 March 2018 - 11:40 AM, said:

From an average point of view player, bonds are not working. It takes so very long to get enough to buy 1 equipment piece (5k bonds). While on the field you meet players with 3x improved equipment on their tank. The richer getting rich (spam gold ammo thus have the advantage damage wise + improved equipment) while the poor meddle with normal ammo and ricochet the oppenent.  

 

So no bonds are not working.

 

View PostGeno1isme, on 07 March 2018 - 10:27 AM, said:

WG wants you to play T10. Therefore they made T10 games the only viable way to earn bonds. Playing well helps with it, but isn't required.

The bonds-for-medals mechanic at lower tiers is just a bad joke to stop people from complaining about bonds being a T10-exclusive feature (though it practically still is).

 

I've got 200 bonds on my SPGs I think.... :) Great! About 0.11 recurring bonds per battle. Say 45,000 battles at that rate to get 1 item of improved equipment.

 

There was discssuion a while ago about rewarding "Battle Buddy" medals with bonds. A nice idea, but it would need 50 bonds per BB medal to make a difference, and that would mean a minimum of 5,000 battles to get 1 "improved item".

 

So yes, they're of little value except as a useless curiosity to most people.



Simeon85 #20 Posted 07 March 2018 - 08:07 PM

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View PostTungstenHitman, on 07 March 2018 - 10:37 AM, said:

How much bonds do you get with these ranked battles? Is it worth bothering with? I have an IS7 I never use and about 1700 bounds thereabouts, how many battles of gold spamming like a mofo do I need to do to get enough bonds for one of those fancy pants optics or something?

 

The newer system it is easier to pick up bonds, because they have changed it to just getting to rank 15 over the rank period I have found you can just work your way up with not much issue.

 

Last rank I got was 12 I think and I got 650 bonds, I have probably picked up about 3000 bonds so far and to do that I have played about 50 games of ranked, plus you get credits, consumables and boosters. 






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