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Kandly #1 Posted 07 March 2018 - 01:02 PM

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It’s Italy time in World of Tanks!
 
Here goes our first report regarding 8 new Italian vehicles of Tiers I–VII. Why are there 8 tanks per 7 levels? Well, there are several reasons for this.
 
Tiers I–VII of the Italian branch include:
•post-WWI tanks (during that period, the army was still defining its priorities regarding armored vehicles);
•pre-WWII tanks;
•tanks that were designed during World War II according to updated requirements.
 
This is a mixed branch, consisting of light and medium tanks.
The first four Tiers are the dawn of Italy’s tank industry. Tier I is occupied by Fiat 3000, based on the French Renault FT light tank. Tier II houses the M14/41 and the L6/40. Both vehicles were mass produced and used by Italian armed forces, so they definitely couldn’t be neglected. The M15/42 sitting on Tier III was assembled in large amounts, too. The P26/40 medium tank (Tier IV) was the heaviest hitting tank in the Italian army during WWII, carrying thick armor and a 75 mm cannon. The P26/40 gameplay may be called ‘transitional’ between that of the starting and mid-tier vehicles.
Tiers V–VII are based on WWII concepts that followed the common design tendencies of the era, emphasizing protection and firepower. The P.43 rolls from mid-1940’s straight into Tier V. The P.43 bis (Tier VI) takes a big step forward with 90 mm cannon and solid frontal armor (and with its looks as well, being a tad futuristic for its age). It’s somewhat slow, but its successor the P.43 ter (Tier VII) improves on that, also offering an enlarged turret, a longer barrel, and a better suspension.
 
We’ll drop info on the top-tier Italians later. These vehicles deserve an in-depth look: beginning with Tier VIII, the tanks in this branch receive its signature ‘autoreloader’ system.
 
This is the Italians’ first appearance, so their parameters are subject to change based on testing results. Follow the news and expect the Supertest of Italian tanks to begin soon after the 1.0 update!
 
Fiat_3000_eng.jpgL6_40_eng.jpgM14_41_eng.jpgM15_42_eng.jpgP_43_eng.jpgP_43bis_eng.jpgP_43ter_eng.jpgP26_40_eng.jpg
 
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Aikl #2 Posted 07 March 2018 - 01:08 PM

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Nice to see some details on tank designs and whatnot.

 

Surprised that they are illustrated by the modern Italian flag here, instead of the Italian army flag featured in the T8 premium screenshots (same as on these tanks).

 

Also, .42 accuracy on a T7 medium? Interesting. Is this the dedicated 'free XP trap'? :P



PaganWatcher #3 Posted 07 March 2018 - 01:40 PM

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Tier VII

 

Like many people will skip up to tier 7 for free exp - so just one question does people who creates visual details think about at-least 1% realism in details?

 

Turrets top front edge is rubbed and warn - so tankers uses it like slide area or opens bear bottles on it?

 

Looks like somebody made joke and sanded all areas where he could... seriously... ???!!!

 

WoT great game so please could G-Designers could make an effort and not just '' I get paid I do things... '' ''Mee Great Designeeer''

 

Just a tiny effort and logic please.

 

Thanks overall they look old/similar to others  and I hope  T8-10 will be better.



undutchable80 #4 Posted 07 March 2018 - 01:49 PM

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That 240 Alpha at Tier 6 is a nice big punch a MT at its tier...

FluffyRedFox #5 Posted 07 March 2018 - 02:32 PM

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They look to have the potential for fun and interesting vehicles, but the gun handling on a lot of them seem to be too bad for no apparent reason. Hopefully they're just placeholder values for now.

StinkyStonky #6 Posted 07 March 2018 - 02:38 PM

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Are the tier 5 & 6 made of plastic ?

Geno1isme #7 Posted 07 March 2018 - 02:43 PM

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View PostAikl, on 07 March 2018 - 02:08 PM, said:

Also, .42 accuracy on a T7 medium? Interesting. Is this the dedicated 'free XP trap'? :P

 

Check the HE-penetration on that, more than the AP, so seems to be a mini-derp.

Otherwise that gun would be really silly: 12mm more pen than the T6, but longer reload and worse gundhandling.



Aikl #8 Posted 07 March 2018 - 03:02 PM

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I don't really care about historical accuracy, but it's apparently a focus of Wargaming's designers:

I see the L6/40 gets an 'autoreloader'. Gotta wonder what the basis for that is. Used on carriage it seems like it uses magazines; using loose shells seems like an incredibly crappy idea inside a tank.

 

Also, when stating that Italian tanks were mass-produced, that probably refers to the construction methods used rather than the numbers. There are reasons why it wasn't mass-produced, of course, but still.

View Postundutchable80, on 07 March 2018 - 12:49 PM, said:

That 240 Alpha at Tier 6 is a nice big punch a MT at its tier...

 

While these are preliminary figures, it's probably not meant to be 240 damage per shot. Reload is shorter than the T7, for instance.

 

View PostGeno1isme, on 07 March 2018 - 01:43 PM, said:

 

Check the HE-penetration on that, more than the AP, so seems to be a mini-derp.

Otherwise that gun would be really silly: 12mm more pen than the T6, but longer reload and worse gundhandling.

 

It's indeed quite strange. Hard to tell what the idea is, since data on the guns proposed is lacking. Most likely they weren't decided upon; speculation is a shortened/lightened version of the 90/53 AA (/AT) gun. APHE could explain why it keeps the penetration with higher damage, but paying more for a straight-up better shell ...hahaha.



leggasiini #9 Posted 07 March 2018 - 03:06 PM

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I like the tier 4-7 visually. Tier 5-7 has probably too bad gun stats, unless they get really nice soft stats and great gun depression.

 

Also anyone noticed how the tier 7 actually has a worse gun than the tier 6?



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View Postundutchable80, on 07 March 2018 - 12:49 PM, said:

That 240 Alpha at Tier 6 is a nice big punch a MT at its tier...

 

I'm sure it'll get atrocious gunhandling to compensate, just look at what they did to the EVEN90 for inspiration.

 

All in all this tree looks kind of interesting, looking forward to seeing where you take it and if we will be getting the compulsory forced free-XP sinks at tier 7 and 8 like we always do which are designed to be just bad enough to make a lot of players skip them with free XP.

 

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View Postleggasiini, on 07 March 2018 - 03:06 PM, said:

I like the tier 4-7 visually. Tier 5-7 has probably too bad gun stats, unless they get really nice soft stats and great gun depression.

 

Also anyone noticed how the tier 7 actually has a worse gun than the tier 6?

 

Gun depression is soooooo 2017 mate, with the reworked (flattened) maps in update 1.0 ;)

VarzA #12 Posted 07 March 2018 - 03:24 PM

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View Postundutchable80, on 07 March 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

That 240 Alpha at Tier 6 is a nice big punch a MT at its tier...

 

Skoda T40/VK 30.01 P can do it too, but the former is kinda crappy with the gun depression .... will be interesting what gun depression the t6 gets.

Search_Warrant #13 Posted 07 March 2018 - 03:27 PM

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Id rather play Leo with 300 alpha and 10 gundep. tier 6 and 7 dont look like anything special besides not getting HE penned like most tanks recently introduced. tier 8-10 will be like Emil's all over again. useless or gimped in most situations becuase of terrible guns. still dont get why they dont fix older tree's like the stupid Siege Mode crap or the Emils being useless outside of hill hugging.

 

Who cares about old useless tanks, just make more broken useless tanks conrad. da.


Edited by Search_Warrant, 07 March 2018 - 03:28 PM.


LCpl_Jones #14 Posted 07 March 2018 - 07:08 PM

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who cares ? they ain't russian so they won't be competitive :trollface:

Dexatroph #15 Posted 07 March 2018 - 07:51 PM

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I hope you will introduce a Tier 6 Premium as you do for any new released nation. The latest nations like  Sweden and Poland had a nice tier 6 premium tanks to play with  and so to train the first crews.

 



CamperKaempfer #16 Posted 07 March 2018 - 11:29 PM

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View PostAikl, on 07 March 2018 - 03:02 PM, said:

I don't really care about historical accuracy, but it's apparently a focus of Wargaming's designers:

I see the L6/40 gets an 'autoreloader'. Gotta wonder what the basis for that is. Used on carriage it seems like it uses magazines; using loose shells seems like an incredibly crappy idea inside a tank.

historically its gun (breda model 35) is the same as the top gun of the the leichttraktor (that wg called 20mm breda). it has vertically inserted magazines. just take a look at about toward the end of this video

https://www.youtube....h?v=Na44eacc9Fo

 

edit: so yeah, you're right


Edited by CamperKaempfer, 07 March 2018 - 11:29 PM.


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View PostLCpl_Jones, on 07 March 2018 - 07:08 PM, said:

who cares ? they ain't russian so they won't be competitive :trollface:

 

last time i checked, the liberté and the patriot were competitive. and noone cried german bias when the maus was buffed

Outfielder #18 Posted 08 March 2018 - 07:07 AM

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So.....if you play an Italian tank....will you switch teams half way thru the game?

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View PostOutfielder, on 08 March 2018 - 07:07 AM, said:

So.....if you play an Italian tank....will you switch teams half way thru the game?

 

Nope. You'll be able to easily penetrate Polish pussies.

 



Geno1isme #20 Posted 08 March 2018 - 10:28 AM

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So according to inofficial ST leaks apparently the 154mm HE pen on the T7 is incorrect and only 45mm in reality. So overall a worse gun than the T6. Really WG?





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