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VsUK #1 Posted 07 March 2018 - 11:51 PM

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Why does the game insist in sticking useless tier 5/6 tanks like the KV-1/1S & the KV-85s that get penned by everything, in tier 8 games with tanks you couldn't pen if you fell on it from the top of a cliff? I've was getting same tier games mostly in them & I had a 76% win rate on those tanks. Then for the last 2 days, I've had nothing but impossible teams in tier 8 games that you can't do nothing about to knock the win rate below 50%. I'm sure the game deliberately gets harder the more games you win by putting you in against the odd's teams. 

 

 

Jigabachi #2 Posted 07 March 2018 - 11:52 PM

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Karma.

 

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Dava_117 #3 Posted 07 March 2018 - 11:53 PM

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Get a T-150 instead. Problem solved.

Homer_J #4 Posted 07 March 2018 - 11:55 PM

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Why does the game insist in sticking useless tier 5/6 tanks like the KV-1

 

Tier 5 tanks don't get into tier 8 games.


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VsUK #5 Posted 07 March 2018 - 11:55 PM

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View PostDava_117, on 07 March 2018 - 10:53 PM, said:

Get a T-150 instead. Problem solved.

 

That's not the line I wish to take. 

VsUK #6 Posted 07 March 2018 - 11:56 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 07 March 2018 - 10:55 PM, said:

Tier 5 tanks don't get into tier 8 games.

 

I meant tier 5's in 7#s & 6 in 8's.  You knew what I meant!

 

View PostJigabachi, on 07 March 2018 - 10:52 PM, said:

Karma.

 

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No such thing. If it was, you wouldn't be here!

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by VsUK, 07 March 2018 - 11:59 PM.


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View PostVsUK, on 07 March 2018 - 11:55 PM, said:

 

That's not the line I wish to take. 

 

Then prepare for a painful grind. Except IS-7, none of the tanks you will play have reliable armour...

Homer_J #8 Posted 08 March 2018 - 12:03 AM

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View PostVsUK, on 07 March 2018 - 10:56 PM, said:

 

 

Sorry, psychic ability isn't one of my strong points.

 

Yes we know 3-5-7 puts you at the bottom more often than the top, it's designed that way.  WG will only make it worse if they change it so either put up with it or quit.



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View PostHomer_J, on 07 March 2018 - 11:03 PM, said:

 

Sorry, psychic ability isn't one of my strong points.

 

Yes we know 3-5-7 puts you at the bottom more often than the top, it's designed that way.  WG will only make it worse if they change it so either put up with it or quit.

 

I asked a question, not to take advice from someone like you. 

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View PostHomer_J, on 08 March 2018 - 12:03 AM, said:

 

Sorry, psychic ability isn't one of my strong points.

 

Yes we know 3-5-7 puts you at the bottom more often than the top, it's designed that way.  WG will only make it worse if they change it so either put up with it or quit.

 

you answered yourself without being psychic. he said tier 5/6 face difficulties against higher tiers. tier 8's are a particularly tough nut to crack. tier 5 can't meet tier 8 so he obviously meant tier 6 about tier 8 games, or, you know, the only other tier 5/6 he mentioned

Edited by CamperKaempfer, 08 March 2018 - 12:13 AM.


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View PostDava_117, on 08 March 2018 - 12:59 AM, said:

 

Then prepare for a painful grind. Except IS-7, none of the tanks you will play have reliable armour...

 

well is3 and now obj 257 is not bad armorwise, is3 definitely was much worse when i grinded it, hull armor got buffed quite nicely, only annoying thing on all of them(is3 obj,t10) is overmatchable turret roof, otherwise they are troll enough :) Is3 is keeper for me from regular tier 8s, its still a very strong tank.

VsUK #12 Posted 08 March 2018 - 12:19 AM

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View Postunrealname, on 07 March 2018 - 11:12 PM, said:

 

well is3 and now obj 257 is not bad armorwise, is3 definitely was much worse when i grinded it, hull armor got buffed quite nicely, only annoying thing on all of them(is3 obj,t10) is overmatchable turret roof, otherwise they are troll enough :) Is3 is keeper for me from regular tier 8s, its still a very strong tank.

 

I thought about the IS-3, but I don't really want the IS-7 & the coming soon tank after T-10 could be really poor, or continue with the soviet high tier tank trend & be OP. I'm interested in the 705A & the 140. They seem to be the tanks that suit my style of play. 

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View PostVsUK, on 07 March 2018 - 11:51 PM, said:

Why does the game insist in sticking useless tier 5/6 tanks like the KV-1/1S & the KV-85s that get penned by everything, in tier 8 games with tanks you couldn't pen if you fell on it from the top of a cliff? I've was getting same tier games mostly in them & I had a 76% win rate on those tanks. Then for the last 2 days, I've had nothing but impossible teams in tier 8 games that you can't do nothing about to knock the win rate below 50%. I'm sure the game deliberately gets harder the more games you win by putting you in against the odd's teams. 

 

 

 

Well that does read as if you suggested T5 gets into T8, although you did clear it up in a subsequent post. 

All you can do is play them as support for your higher tier Heavies and engage at distance. Not as much fun, but then we are not supposed to play for fun. :hiding:



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View PostVsUK, on 07 March 2018 - 11:51 PM, said:

Why does the game insist in sticking useless tier 5/6 tanks like the KV-1/1S & the KV-85s that get penned by everything, in tier 8 games with tanks you couldn't pen if you fell on it from the top of a cliff? I've was getting same tier games mostly in them & I had a 76% win rate on those tanks. Then for the last 2 days, I've had nothing but impossible teams in tier 8 games that you can't do nothing about to knock the win rate below 50%. I'm sure the game deliberately gets harder the more games you win by putting you in against the odd's teams. 

 

 

 

i've played neither of those tanks since the matchmaking changes (perhaps the kv-85). but remember, you only get to meet 3 tanks per game that are 2 tiers higher than you. the kv-1s doesn't have to pen to do damage and the only 3 tier 7 tanks you ca face won't have enough armour to be immune to your HE shells. the kv-85 has 170pen with the 100mm and 175 with the 122mm. both can pen frontal weak spots of nearly everythign you can meet. i can only think of the liberté, the patriot and the chrysler gf as exceptions

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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 07 March 2018 - 11:21 PM, said:

 

Well that does read as if you suggested T5 gets into T8, although you did clear it up in a subsequent post. 

All you can do is play them as support for your higher tier Heavies and engage at distance. Not as much fun, but then we are not supposed to play for fun. :hiding:

 

I only play for fun. Like the betting sites say. When the fun stops, stop!. But I find myself getting really frustrated by being put into teams you have no use what so ever. Basically you feel like a stocking filler for the sake of having a full stocking. I'm too busy to take this game seriously. I stopped taking it seriously when I was forced to abandon my VsUK account on NA server years ago when WG made an update that changed my 50-60 ping to 200+. I eventually gave it away for a charitable donation because WG refused to transfer it over to EU, claiming I was trying to subvert the cost differences for tanks between EU & NA. Even though when the game first launched when I signed up. They wasn't any EU servers. Everything was via .com to register. 

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THE_JACK_OF_HEARTS #16 Posted 08 March 2018 - 12:57 AM

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Well if you only play for fun, why get so stressed ??

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You have HT with armor, then you have medium heavies with mobility over armor. That's where the 85 and KV-1S comes in. KV-1S is a great support heavy with mobility. Not a brawling HT like the 220 or KV-1. I don't even push the HT line in that as top tier. KV-85 can still do it hull down as top tier tho and bounce a few. 

 

It's like the AMX 40... Just because it's a light, don't make it a great scout. So just because they have a HT badge, don't be they bounce everything. Just ask the 50 100. I don't even brawl with that as top tier, even with the new MM.


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View PostVsUK, on 07 March 2018 - 10:51 PM, said:

Edited 

 

 

 

Fixed it for you.

 

This post has been edited by the moderation team due to naming and shaming 


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Homer_J #19 Posted 08 March 2018 - 02:25 AM

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View PostVsUK, on 07 March 2018 - 11:10 PM, said:

 

I asked a question, not to take advice from someone like you. 

I don't see anything which could be considered to be a question in this.

View PostVsUK, on 07 March 2018 - 10:51 PM, said:

Why does the game insist in sticking useless tier 5/6 tanks like the KV-1/1S & the KV-85s that get penned by everything, in tier 8 games with tanks you couldn't pen if you fell on it from the top of a cliff? I've was getting same tier games mostly in them & I had a 76% win rate on those tanks. Then for the last 2 days, I've had nothing but impossible teams in tier 8 games that you can't do nothing about to knock the win rate below 50%. I'm sure the game deliberately gets harder the more games you win by putting you in against the odd's teams. 
 

 

View PostVsUK, on 07 March 2018 - 11:28 PM, said:

 

I only play for fun. Like the betting sites say. When the fun stops, stop!. But I find myself getting really frustrated by being put into teams you have no use what so ever. Basically you feel like a stocking filler for the sake of having a full stocking. I'm too busy to take this game seriously. I stopped taking it seriously when I was forced to abandon my VsUK account on NA server years ago when WG made an update that changed my 50-60 ping to 200+. I eventually gave it away for a charitable donation because WG refused to transfer it over to EU, claiming I was trying to subvert the cost differences for tanks between EU & NA. Even though when the game first launched when I signed up. They wasn't any EU servers. Everything was via .com to register. 

 

And if you signed up to the NA server before the EU server existed you were given the choice of which server to move to when the EU server was created (as I did).

 

When you are bottom tier the enemy team has seven bottom tier tanks for you to fight.  You are never in a team where you are no use.



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Imho, question could be more generic. 

Why to have a +2mm, when you negate the +2 armor with gold spam? Team with more gold spammers has way better chances of winning the game. Only same tier games FTW. 




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