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thiextar #1 Posted 08 March 2018 - 07:19 PM

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So, i currently have a 430 without crew sitting in my garage, and i was thinking of swapping my t-54 crew to it, but ive heard so much conflicting info about this tank.

 

So im asking for people who have experience playing both tanks, how do they compare? Is the 430 worth it over the t54? 

 

How does the 430 compare vs other competative t9 mediums? How well does it fit in the current meta?



Warzey #2 Posted 08 March 2018 - 08:34 PM

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I'm currently grinding through it on my way to 430U and I must say that 430 is considerably stronger than I expected. 

430 retained all of its armor from T10 which makes it really effective against T8 and T7 tanks, honestly with some angling it works against T9 and T10 tanks as well. On top of that it has 1800 HP which is really good for a T9 medium.

In terms of firepower

  • DPM is on par with E-50s 105mm gun which is pretty good, obviously not as good as it's on Patton and AMX 30 but I can't complain.
  • standard penetration is good enough to deal with T10 tanks, but penetration on premium rounds is really low, it almost makes no sense to load them. 
  • accuracy is horrible so the damage is really inconsistent at long range, but due to your excellent armor it is not difficult to fight at medium to short range.
  • soft stats are a bit better than T-54 with 220 pen gun which is more than adequate for medium to short range fights

In terms of mobility its a bit better than E-50 and T54E1. Basically it is decently mobile on flat ground, but it feels sluggish once it starts going up the hill.

 

As a whole package 430 is an excellent brawler medium and as a brawler it is considerably better than WZ-120 and T-54. 



TankkiPoju #3 Posted 08 March 2018 - 09:50 PM

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View PostWarzey, on 08 March 2018 - 08:34 PM, said:

I'm currently grinding through it on my way to 430U and I must say that 430 is considerably stronger than I expected. 

 

+1 to that.

 

390 alpha, decent DPM, 1800 hit points and Stalin approved rasha armor means 430 has serious brawling power, I would say even more than T-54. Better sidescraper.

 



unrealname #4 Posted 09 March 2018 - 12:12 AM

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i dont like it, same as i dont like t26e5 so far lel, everyone tells they are great, but they are not great for everyone obviously. as i dont have wz-120 yet i cant tell how much worse is that compared to 430, but atm pretty much any tier 9 med suits me better than 430. same as i rather play lowe, than t26e5. ok no one cares about prems anyway, as long as you can make some credits. if i had to chose between t54 and 430, i would never switch t54 for obj. well maybe 430 is better suited for current meta, but T54 can still crap on it all day long ;) obj is much cheaper tank to run, if thats what you are looking for, but definitely not fun to play, i found that potato gun to be really frustrating. otherwise its not bad i guess, but not my cup of tea. 

Strizi #5 Posted 09 March 2018 - 12:14 AM

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T-54 is better in my opinion. The armor didnt work so well for me and id rather play E50 with its lasergun.

IncandescentGerbil #6 Posted 09 March 2018 - 02:10 AM

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i think T54 is better in current climate. 330 pen with premium smokes (almost) everything.

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View PostWarzey, on 08 March 2018 - 08:34 PM, said:

I'm currently grinding through it on my way to 430U and I must say that 430 is considerably stronger than I expected. 

430 retained all of its armor from T10 which makes it really effective against T8 and T7 tanks, honestly with some angling it works against T9 and T10 tanks as well. On top of that it has 1800 HP which is really good for a T9 medium.

In terms of firepower

  • DPM is on par with E-50s 105mm gun which is pretty good, obviously not as good as it's on Patton and AMX 30 but I can't complain.
  • standard penetration is good enough to deal with T10 tanks, but penetration on premium rounds is really low, it almost makes no sense to load them. 
  • accuracy is horrible so the damage is really inconsistent at long range, but due to your excellent armor it is not difficult to fight at medium to short range.
  • soft stats are a bit better than T-54 with 220 pen gun which is more than adequate for medium to short range fights

In terms of mobility its a bit better than E-50 and T54E1. Basically it is decently mobile on flat ground, but it feels sluggish once it starts going up the hill.

 

As a whole package 430 is an excellent brawler medium and as a brawler it is considerably better than WZ-120 and T-54. 

 

Funny, base pen is way better then both Patton and E50, premium pen is like E50 and better then Patton. Plus, AP pen of AMX 30 is low(APCR i mean) plus 300 HEAT pen is worse then 270 APCR imho. I dont know, but really, for armor 430 have, he's pen is still high, and good enough. T54 pen on gold is OP, simple. 

And by far, T54E1 have worst gun on his tier, but that clip...when pen all. 

WZ 120 is from 2013. Gun with 3.4 sec aim time and 0.38 acc. Good old wot times. 

Warzey #8 Posted 09 March 2018 - 02:56 AM

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View PostIncandescentGerbil, on 09 March 2018 - 01:10 AM, said:

i think T54 is better in current climate. 330 pen with premium smokes (almost) everything.

 

While 330 is very nice on T-54, technically speaking 240/270 is enough to deal with almost anything. It will only struggle against tanks like Maus and Type 5. With other tanks 430 shouldn't have too much trouble penetrating them as long as it hits their weak spots. 

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Im just now grinding on my 430 as well so trying to get information about it so i to know about how its played and such

Edweird #10 Posted 09 March 2018 - 12:32 PM

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I tried them both on the test server..

 

The gun handling is awfull



XxKuzkina_MatxX #11 Posted 09 March 2018 - 01:49 PM

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View Postdiscontinued, on 09 March 2018 - 01:32 PM, said:

I tried them both on the test server..

 

The gun handling is awfull

 

Exactly, although it's more obvious on the tier 9 but it's a big gun so it can't have good gun handling like say an obj.140.

Afdass #12 Posted 09 March 2018 - 05:08 PM

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Have the tank sitting in my garage without any crew since 1 week before 9.22 patch. Guess I could give it a try and find someone who can fit in the tank and take it for a run as I'm recently seeing a flood of these things in the MM domination so many matches...

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View PostWarzey, on 09 March 2018 - 02:56 AM, said:

 

While 330 is very nice on T-54, technically speaking 240/270 is enough to deal with almost anything. It will only struggle against tanks like Maus and Type 5. With other tanks 430 shouldn't have too much trouble penetrating them as long as it hits their weak spots. 

Just my opinion but the extra premium pen, allied to better gun handling, make 54 superior. Also, I seem to get set on fire every bloody time I play the 430. Getting very tedious.



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I just finished the grind for the 430U yesterday  but i have to say it didn't feel like a grind at all . A competent player will make it shine but i saw lots with sub 50% wr in my travels . Definitely a keeper



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I'm actually enjoying it. I already have it on console as a tier 10, but it works well at tier 9 despite the severe beating it was given with the nerf bat


Its certainly a much easier grind than the French heavy tank TOTT grind was even though I needed to earn 5k more XP per day to achieve it


With the French line I think I finished it on the last day, but even though I needed to earn quite a bit more to get this months tier 10 I am expecting to finish anything up to a week early


In fact the 430 is racking up XP so rapidly that I barely played it for a couple of days so I could rattle off the easier personal missions for the T55A which I just unlocked to get the higher amount of silver they pay out so even paying for the tier 10 should be easy peasy at 200k silver just for the primary requirements on many of the missions for the T55A and requiring far fewer games than it would take to earn it in premium tier 8 tanks

Edited by Mike_Mckay, 09 March 2018 - 08:31 PM.


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View Postdiscontinued, on 09 March 2018 - 11:32 AM, said:

I tried them both on the test server..

 

The gun handling is awfull

 

at short range brawling Stalin guides you to weak spots with no issue, sniping is a no no though , as a face hugging brawler I really like it 

The_Destroyer_526 #17 Posted 10 March 2018 - 07:26 PM

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This tank is a beast , i have 3.1k avg dmg in it while i have 2.2k avg dmg on t54




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