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FishFight01 #1 Posted 12 March 2018 - 02:29 PM

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#Obj268 This tank is for a long time in the game and over time has become one of the most unplayed tier 10 TDs , forgotten in the garage . He got a few patches ago a tiny little buff ; shell velocity and gun traverse . But this tank is still a bad one because it has no view range , no armour and even with 0.32 dispersion you can't snipe properly. 

Igor_BL #2 Posted 12 March 2018 - 02:45 PM

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268 is worse then tvp vtu.

 

long aimtime. slow shell speed.  weak armor.



jack_timber #3 Posted 12 March 2018 - 02:58 PM

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Totally agree with these...

Don't take it out to often but, don't tell anyone else, only tank I press the 2 key on when I do.   

Might hit something or might not but when it does at least it may cause damage:)



Geno1isme #4 Posted 12 March 2018 - 03:18 PM

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Worst T10 TD is still the E4 by far.

 

Dunno why people always bash the 268, I kinda like it. True, it doesn't have retard proof armor and could use a little bit more gun depression and/or HP, but overall I think it's a solid TD with the very high base pen, good DPM (for 750 alpha), decent mobility, reasonable (for a TD) dispersion stats and somewhat trollish armor. It's simply just not a specialist like the Strv, Badger or E3.



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View PostGeno1isme, on 12 March 2018 - 02:18 PM, said:

Worst T10 TD is still the E4 by far.

 

Dunno why people always bash the 268, I kinda like it. True, it doesn't have retard proof armor and could use a little bit more gun depression and/or HP, but overall I think it's a solid TD with the very high base pen, good DPM (for 750 alpha), decent mobility, reasonable (for a TD) dispersion stats and somewhat trollish armor. It's simply just not a specialist like the Strv, Badger or E3.

 

Good joke comrade. E4 has a turret. This alone makes it better than most td's

Exozen #6 Posted 12 March 2018 - 03:22 PM

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I truly miss the old 268, pre TD nerfs and all , really liked it back then.

Dava_117 #7 Posted 12 March 2018 - 03:24 PM

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IMO, it need better traverse. WG made it a sniper after a line made by assault gun. Tier 8 and abhove need better traverse and gunhandling to effectively peek corners, reduce cammo to balance it. Also bringing back the alpha to 850 reducing accuracy can help too... :hiding:

Edited by Dava_117, 12 March 2018 - 03:24 PM.


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View PostGeno1isme, on 12 March 2018 - 03:18 PM, said:

Worst T10 TD is still the E4 by far.

 

Dunno why people always bash the 268, I kinda like it. True, it doesn't have retard proof armor and could use a little bit more gun depression and/or HP, but overall I think it's a solid TD with the very high base pen, good DPM (for 750 alpha), decent mobility, reasonable (for a TD) dispersion stats and somewhat trollish armor. It's simply just not a specialist like the Strv, Badger or E3.

hahaha

 

e4 has turret. that fact alone is enough to be better then majority of other non-turreted TDs.

As t30 is also one of the best tier9 TDs.

 

268 needs aimtime reduce. 2,7 is awful for sniping TD. it isnt some brawling TD, for close combat. IN 268v4, you could live with those 2.7sec, because you go in enemies face. Also, it has good dispersions.

 

aimtime reduce or some other tweaks.

850 alpha or acc. buff or increased shell speed... something like that. i wouldnt like to see armor buff of any kind on it. We have enough armored TDs.


Edited by Igor_BL, 12 March 2018 - 03:29 PM.


baribal_80 #9 Posted 12 March 2018 - 03:32 PM

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850 alpha is a bad idea. High alpha is bad for the game. It will promote camping and it will punish active playing while the tanks will stay slot machines. Just make it easier to hit with those tanks. Increase the shell velocity on the 268 and give it better gun arc. If that doesn't work change gun stats.

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yeah, like 750/850 switch on 268 would ruin the gameplay today.

 

it wouldnt affect gameplay at all, if 268 gets 850 alpha gun.

but i would also love to ssee some other changes. aimtime and shell speed would be first option.



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su-122-54 was the worst TD and they removed it. 

Sfinski #12 Posted 12 March 2018 - 03:47 PM

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4*268 = 268 version 4. Simple math. 

Geno1isme #13 Posted 12 March 2018 - 03:48 PM

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View PostIgor_BL, on 12 March 2018 - 04:25 PM, said:

hahaha

 

e4 has turret. that fact alone is enough to be better then majority of other non-turreted TDs.

 

What's the point of a (semi-traversable) turret if the potato gun doesn't hit anything? Yeah, in theory it's a good tank, but in practice it's horrible due dispersion stats, no gun depression and crappy mobilty.

 

View PostIgor_BL, on 12 March 2018 - 04:25 PM, said:

As t30 is also one of the best tier9 TDs.

 

Sure, T30 overall is actually better than the E4. But that's relevant how when talking about current T10 TDs?



Celution #14 Posted 12 March 2018 - 03:54 PM

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Object 268 is what one can call the perfectly balanced tier 10 TD that is a flat improvement in all regards compared to its predecessors within the branch. The only problems it had were all adjusted in patch 9.20 - narrow gun arc and very slow AP shell velocity. It's just not a fool-proof or oppressive tank that have been introduced. I really dislike the fact that super-high alpha guns nowadays have incredible aim times - back in the day the 2.7 s aim time on the Object 268 used to be near best in class, only being bested by the T110E3's 2.5 s - let that sink in for a moment.

 

The Object 268 should be one of the norms and the balance should be shifted back rather than making everything stronger to compensate the very evident powercreep that has been going on.



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View PostIgor_BL, on 12 March 2018 - 02:35 PM, said:

yeah, like 750/850 switch on 268 would ruin the gameplay today.

 

it wouldnt affect gameplay at all, if 268 gets 850 alpha gun.

but i would also love to ssee some other changes. aimtime and shell speed would be first option.

 

Yeah like other high alpha td's don't influence gameplay and don't make people play passive. Jesus ignorance is bliss. 

Igor_BL #16 Posted 12 March 2018 - 04:20 PM

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I said that this one change wouldnt affect the gameplay at all.

if you increase dmg on all TDs for 200dmg, ofc it would.

 

View PostCelution, on 12 March 2018 - 03:54 PM, said:

Object 268 is what one can call the perfectly balanced tier 10 TD that is a flat improvement in all regards compared to its predecessors within the branch. The only problems it had were all adjusted in patch 9.20 - narrow gun arc and very slow AP shell velocity. It's just not a fool-proof or oppressive tank that have been introduced. I really dislike the fact that super-high alpha guns nowadays have incredible aim times - back in the day the 2.7 s aim time on the Object 268 used to be near best in class, only being bested by the T110E3's 2.5 s - let that sink in for a moment.

 

The Object 268 should be one of the norms and the balance should be shifted back rather than making everything stronger to compensate the very evident powercreep that has been going on.

could agree on this.

 

but with all those buffs and new tanks, that old/balanced tanks just sink. and they are down there for too long.

 

I mean, how long do you need to tweak stats of UP tank? buff shell speed for 100m/s. or lower aimtime, or improve acc, give it few weeks, month, on TS, if that works, put it in game, and go on.



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View PostExozen, on 12 March 2018 - 02:22 PM, said:

I truly miss the old 268, pre TD nerfs and all , really liked it back then.

 

all it needed was SuperHeavy armor and it would basically be the 268 V4. :trollface:

hasnainrakha57 #18 Posted 12 March 2018 - 06:53 PM

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Lol got one 2.5k avg dmg worst thing ever its armor is like of grille always getting pen horrible tank useless crapi dont know why wg dosent even touch this thing its worst in 100 battles u will see it in only 2 battles.I even created a post for this tank only 10 replies about buffing.

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View PostGeno1isme, on 12 March 2018 - 03:18 PM, said:

Worst T10 TD is still the E4 by far.

 

Dunno why people always bash the 268, I kinda like it. True, it doesn't have retard proof armor and could use a little bit more gun depression and/or HP, but overall I think it's a solid TD with the very high base pen, good DPM (for 750 alpha), decent mobility, reasonable (for a TD) dispersion stats and somewhat trollish armor. It's simply just not a specialist like the Strv, Badger or E3.

 

What on earth are you smoking? E4 is easily one of the strongest TD's.

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View PostIgor_BL, on 12 March 2018 - 03:35 PM, said:

yeah, like 750/850 switch on 268 would ruin the gameplay today.

 

it wouldnt affect gameplay at all, if 268 gets 850 alpha gun.

but i would also love to ssee some other changes. aimtime and shell speed would be first option.

 

Shell arc and gun traverse were both buffed, which were two of the main issues with it. Agree with Celution above, it's reasonably well balanced, aim time is hardly terrible for a 750 alpha gun. Only really the Grille and E3 aim a bit faster but the Grille is paper.

 

Power creep is more the issue, 268, Grille 15 and T110E3/E4 IMO are the balanced & non-broken TDs, all the others have issues IMO. 






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