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haha_ufail #1 Posted 12 March 2018 - 10:11 PM

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Im by no means a F2P player but cant help but notice the rapid increase in super heavy vehicles (the ones with no frontal weakspots to anything other than premium ammo) beeing added almost x10 the promotion of "premium" ammo which by no means is cheap for f2p players to fire, but when it comes to the paying customer with premium time and premium tanks, its just an adverage none premium income when you decide to shoot it, and the overall balance of the game is slowly shifting towards premium ammo which in turn requires a premium account to be able to relably fire with a sustainable income.

 

just seems like WG are taking the wrong path and are going to start loosing their free playerbase, and the new players that want to play will very quickly leave as a result of the slowing rising pay2win aspects start to show.

 

Edit: i know WG need to monetize their games in some way, but i don't think this is the right way to go, warships is doing just fine without massive over buffed items.


Edited by haha_ufail, 12 March 2018 - 10:17 PM.


Wayward_Current #2 Posted 12 March 2018 - 10:14 PM

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and  F2P is?

Edited by Wayward_Current, 12 March 2018 - 10:14 PM.


haha_ufail #3 Posted 12 March 2018 - 10:15 PM

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View PostWayward_Current, on 12 March 2018 - 09:14 PM, said:

WTF is F2P

 

Free to Play, the whole premise of the game itself

jp156 #4 Posted 12 March 2018 - 10:16 PM

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bots can be used to compensate lost players..

Steve8066 #5 Posted 12 March 2018 - 10:17 PM

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View Postjp156, on 12 March 2018 - 10:16 PM, said:

bots can be used to compensate lost players..

 

bots are already been used



BravelyRanAway #6 Posted 12 March 2018 - 10:21 PM

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View Posthaha_ufail, on 12 March 2018 - 09:11 PM, said:

Im by no means a F2P player but cant help but notice the rapid increase in super heavy vehicles (the ones with no frontal weakspots to anything other than premium ammo) beeing added almost x10 the promotion of "premium" ammo which by no means is cheap for f2p players to fire, 

It was the F2P players who cried and whined for Gold ammo for credits.......now they have it, they may as well reap the rewards of their tears.:trollface:



Balc0ra #7 Posted 12 March 2018 - 10:32 PM

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Considering I have 2 mates that don't spend a single cent on this game, with more then one tier X. And still can afford to fling a gold round or two if needed- As you make it sound that nothing by gold works on most of them. Even on the side. As gold ammo is for silver. And won't cost you a tier 5 tank every game. I've not bought premium time for almost 3 years. Even with the odd gold round or 3 here and there some games. It's not gonna break the bank if you still manage to do some damage. Most "bad" rounds are in the -10K area if I have to press 2 a bit on high tiers. Not -70K. Just play mid tiers now and then. And your back on track. And you don't have to do damage to make a profit either. Thus why god invented track shots... if you have support that his.

 

Then again most super heavies can't even pen them self with normal ammo. And It's not just vs super heavies. If every tank could pen everything they faced, be it a medium or a light. Why would we need premium ammo? And then you have the other side of the scale. The ppl that always complain armor is useless. Vs even normal ammo.

 

So it depends on what you drive. My T-10 can easily deal with a Type 4 head on, but if he gets a slight angle, the sights turns orange and most shots will do nothing. And If I am in my IS-6 and I know I can't deal with their armor. Why go there if you know you have to press 2, and that might not even work. No point going if you are nothing but canon fodder. Go to a lane where you can be useful with AP then. Or support your main HT's and go for track or flank shots if possible. 2 is not always the only way. If it's a late 1 on 1. Then force him to fight on your terms so you get rear or side shots if you can. If you get in his face and have to use gold. Then he is controlling the engagement, not you. Tho ofc... that part is not always easy to go your way either. 

 

 


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View Posthaha_ufail, on 12 March 2018 - 09:11 PM, said:

 but when it comes to the paying customer with premium time and premium tanks, its just an adverage none premium income 

 

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clixor #9 Posted 12 March 2018 - 11:19 PM

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Played a battle in my type 4 today, blocked like 5k and in the end some sneaky tiger crept up behind me (didn't notice him somehow) and killed me. A tier7.. tiger,. killed a type without!! shooting prem.

 

Sometimes it's just also about smart plays instead of being defeatistic about situations.



haha_ufail #10 Posted 12 March 2018 - 11:27 PM

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View Postclixor, on 12 March 2018 - 10:19 PM, said:

Played a battle in my type 4 today, blocked like 5k and in the end some sneaky tiger crept up behind me (didn't notice him somehow) and killed me. A tier7.. tiger,. killed a type without!! shooting prem.

 

Sometimes it's just also about smart plays instead of being defeatistic about situations.

 

yeah, but the majority of the WOT mindset it     why play smart when you can just hit "2"

BonjiOrongji #11 Posted 12 March 2018 - 11:53 PM

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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 12 March 2018 - 10:21 PM, said:

It was the F2P players who cried and whined for Gold ammo for credits.......now they have it, they may as well reap the rewards of their tears.:trollface:

 

because prem-ammo for credits and the massive increase of needed prem-ammo to be succesful is the same thing ...  :facepalm:

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View PostBonjiOrongji, on 12 March 2018 - 10:53 PM, said:

 

because prem-ammo for credits and the massive increase of needed prem-ammo to be succesful is the same thing ...  :facepalm:

 

When you could only buy it for Gold, it was rare to see it used....very rare. The playerbase decided that every shot that killed them was Gold ammo(as they were so elite and masterful). they whined and cried at the unfairness. Until the whine got so loud, that WG decided to sit down and work out how they could introduce it and still make money. They worked out that rather than make players better(because it didn't), it would at least slow down a F2P player's grind by eating their credits. So, thanks to the whining of the F2P, a new credit sink was found. You do not need prem-ammo to be successful in this game....but you do need people to believe it, so they will waste their credits.

But you should know yourself that skill and understanding of game mechanics is far more important than Gold ammo.



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They should get rid of all freeloaders and make everyone buy a £100 package containing either a tier 8 German TD, or any Russian tank. Pay some money you tight gits!

* This post is made in sarcasm. However if you do have the money to buy super-expensive bundles, consider sending me 1000 gold now and then.

** The comment about sending me gold is NOT sarcasm.

BonjiOrongji #14 Posted 13 March 2018 - 12:28 AM

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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 13 March 2018 - 12:06 AM, said:

 

When you could only buy it for Gold, it was rare to see it used....very rare.

 

it was pay to win ...  a "better" type of ammo that can only be bought with gold is pay to win and nobody can realy think that this a good/better way for a game

View PostBravelyRanAway, on 13 March 2018 - 12:06 AM, said:

But you should know yourself that skill and understanding of game mechanics is far more important than Gold ammo.

 

prem-ammo is part of the game mechanics and is in many situations just the superior ammunition  ... not using it and putting yourself at a disadvantage has nothing to do with "understanding the game mechanics"

 

that beeing said ... i rly do not like how prem-ammo is implemented into the game but its much better then to hide such things behind a paywall ... also despite me hating prem-ammo i still use it because it is part of the game



Mr_Beefy #15 Posted 13 March 2018 - 08:39 AM

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Premium account costs 10 Euro a month.

If you cant afford 10 Euro a month, then you should not be playing an online game, and going to work.



ogremage #16 Posted 13 March 2018 - 08:51 AM

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If you are not paying for the service then you are not a customer, you are the product. It's standard business.

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View PostMr_Beefy, on 13 March 2018 - 07:39 AM, said:

Premium account costs 10 Euro a month.

If you cant afford 10 Euro a month, then you should not be playing an online game, and going to work.

 

Except in the UK where no work and benefits can be more fruitful than getting off your [edited]and going out to work.

 



SiliconSidewinder #18 Posted 13 March 2018 - 09:18 AM

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quiet honestly you can play the game for free, making credits is easy enough in tier IV-VII.

are super amored tanks making life more difficult?

they are a challange offcourse, many of these tanks though have distinct disadvantages that can be used against them. that many players refuse to do so and instead opt for heat or APCR is really just their own choice.

 

that said a well driven tier VIII and even IX tank should in general still be able to bring in it's running costs.



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View PostBonjiOrongji, on 12 March 2018 - 11:28 PM, said:

prem-ammo is part of the game mechanics and is in many situations just the superior ammunition  ... not using it and putting yourself at a disadvantage has nothing to do with "understanding the game mechanics"

Cool......so your win rate is based on gold ammo alone and understanding the game mechanics won't help.



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I play mostly free. Bought a premium tank because I didn't want to grind 6m credits for a tier 10 tank. Now I rarely play it, credit income is fine as long as you buy stuff during discount. I don't shoot gold unless I'm one of the last tanks alive and the win depends on it.

I think new players leave because the large gap in crew skills. Especially at tier 5 the impact of a good crew is too much.

 







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