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smokeytheband1t #1 Posted 13 March 2018 - 09:19 AM

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Honestly i'll say this first, i'm not the greatest player ever..(infact i am not really that great at all..)  .. that being said..

 

The KR46 was a tank i got from a christmas box about 15 months ago when i first started.. i skipped into T8 (which was a mistake .. i learned that the hard way..)

 

now i decided to attempt to atleast get this tank to 50% WR or something..

 

However.. I just can't get this tank to work for me..  so yea .. anyone got some insights to share regarding.. "how to patton KR46" ..



Ubervold #2 Posted 13 March 2018 - 09:45 AM

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The KR46 was ok when it was released, I can not remember when I last took mine out for a spin. The current meta has made it a sad tank to play, so very sad. 

 



Noo_Noo #3 Posted 13 March 2018 - 10:07 AM

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View Postsmokeytheband1t, on 13 March 2018 - 09:19 AM, said:

Honestly i'll say this first, i'm not the greatest player ever..(infact i am not really that great at all..)  .. that being said..

 

The KR46 was a tank i got from a christmas box about 15 months ago when i first started.. i skipped into T8 (which was a mistake .. i learned that the hard way..)

 

now i decided to attempt to atleast get this tank to 50% WR or something..

 

However.. I just can't get this tank to work for me..  so yea .. anyone got some insights to share regarding.. "how to patton KR46" ..

 

I'm similar to you I think. I had it a while back and tried really hard with it. Played it a lot and generally suffered with it. It seems to be lagging behind other tanks to be honest. 

It was supposed to be a good tank, hull down, working ridge lines etc. thanks to the excellent gun depression. But it takes forever to aim and everything still penetrates your turret anyway making that tactic difficult at best. It basically meant I was reduced to a role of snap shotting over ridges which given the extra armour that everything has now meant that I was missing far too many shots to be competitive. 

 

I traded it in, in the end and got a T26E4 which was again ok for a short while then that has been power creeped as well. 



Aikl #4 Posted 13 March 2018 - 10:31 AM

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It's simply not all that good, but it is still among the better T8 mediums. Kind of sad if you ask me. Like more or less all T8 mediums, the gun is 'meh'. Shells fly slo-owly, penetration is mediocre, it does little damage per shot and the gun handling/accuracy isn't brilliant anymore. Oh, and the DPM is literally 20 higher than an IS-3. Because why not, eh?

 

I've got one too, and it can be OK at times, but there's no real reason to play it over the M41 90GF. The light does everything better, at the cost of turret armor.

 

(The buffs to the T-44(-100) would suggest that they are actually aware that T8 meds are kinda crap, and the Type 59 buff suggests that buffing gun handling is a viable option. Adding some DPM to reward flanking would also be nice without making it utterly broken.)


Edited by Aikl, 13 March 2018 - 10:40 AM.


TankkiPoju #5 Posted 13 March 2018 - 12:22 PM

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View PostAikl, on 13 March 2018 - 10:31 AM, said:

(The buffs to the T-44(-100) would suggest that they are actually aware that T8 meds are kinda crap

 

No, it means Russian players complained some Russian meds aren't strong enough.

 

How many times has WG buffed T-54 mod 1 now?

 



Simeon85 #6 Posted 13 March 2018 - 12:25 PM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 13 March 2018 - 12:22 PM, said:

 

No, it means Russian players complained some Russian meds aren't strong enough.

 

How many times has WG buffed T-54 mod 1 now?

 

 

Also some people bought the T-44-100 for like nearly 50 Euros and were probably very dissapointed. 

Edited by Simeon85, 13 March 2018 - 12:25 PM.


TankkiPoju #7 Posted 13 March 2018 - 12:49 PM

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View PostSimeon85, on 13 March 2018 - 12:25 PM, said:

 

Also some people bought the T-44-100 for like nearly 50 Euros and were probably very dissapointed. 

 

T-44-100 is a special case in that sense, the tank isn't really worth 50 euros.


Edited by TankkiPoju, 13 March 2018 - 12:50 PM.


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View Postsmokeytheband1t, on 13 March 2018 - 08:19 AM, said:

Honestly i'll say this first, i'm not the greatest player ever..(infact i am not really that great at all..)  .. that being said..

 

The KR46 was a tank i got from a christmas box about 15 months ago when i first started.. i skipped into T8 (which was a mistake .. i learned that the hard way..)

 

now i decided to attempt to atleast get this tank to 50% WR or something..

 

However.. I just can't get this tank to work for me..  so yea .. anyone got some insights to share regarding.. "how to patton KR46" ..

 

Hi, Ask yourself this question smokey

 

Do you like playing this tank does it make money, as you said you won it, 

 

SELL IT!

 

Tier 8 mediums are in a pretty bad place atm due to the 357 MM

 

I sold all my premium tier 8's and only have the Magnificent TOG2...it pumps out silver quicker than a crooked jeweler.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by discontinued, 13 March 2018 - 01:01 PM.


KillingJoker #9 Posted 13 March 2018 - 01:04 PM

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I own one... i kind a like it, its a well balanced medium, it have a decent mobility, a good turret, a ok/good gun handling, 

 

How to play it sucessfully you ask?

 

it depends on the matchmaking, but this tank is main purpose is ridge lines, since iits turret is well protected, and your gun handling is fairly good, you are meant

to pop out ridge lines and punish enemies that are not paying atention to you, its a good tank to learn how to use terrain into your advantage...

 

Your mobility is good, your sucess will depend a lot in the way how your position your self, because this tank is a hull-down medium... if anyone shoot you in the hull

it will penetrate, unless its a tier VI tank, but in the turret, its a different story, while not being impossble to penetrate the turret, its a quite bouncy one... you can indeed play

ridgelines with and expect the enemy to not penetrate your turret while you farm damage on them. 

 

The DPM is not great, but it doesnt harm the gameplay, i mean 7 seconds in my setup for a 240 damage at tier 8 is nothing special, todays meta would require a much better DPM in my opinion, but still, if your playing the tank properly, it wont matter...

 

Its a tank that i ocasionaly play when i am in the mood and want to make credits, usualy alternating with the FV 4002... 

 

If you ask me, the patton korea is not a friendly tank for a new player or someone with only 7000 games, it demands experience to shine, you will pay heavly any mistakes you do in this tank, your dpm will not save you, its not a tank for a lone wolf, you wont carry matches by your self, unless you have an extremely good game, and the enemy team is made of muppets, its a good team play support medium, your supposed to have a good knoledge about map's and how to have inpact in game. 


Its fairly easy to make credits with it, most of the games i have even without premium account periods, you can have 70/80 thousand credits per game... 

 

 



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M46 KR... the only tank I actually three marked... and it happened 2 weeks ago I guess? And I've still got no clue how to play this tank D:

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View PostUbervold, on 13 March 2018 - 09:45 AM, said:

The KR46 was ok when it was released, I can not remember when I last took mine out for a spin. The current meta has made it a sad tank to play, so very sad. 

 

 

190pen is indeed a sad joke in this meta. 



Balc0ra #12 Posted 13 March 2018 - 02:25 PM

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View PostUbervold, on 13 March 2018 - 09:45 AM, said:

The KR46 was ok when it was released, I can not remember when I last took mine out for a spin. The current meta has made it a sad tank to play, so very sad. 

 

 

Depends on how you look at it. When it came it was fine tbh, even with the terrible shell speed.  But the meta for tier 8 meds in general then was terrible anyway tier for tier vs other meds. So not much to compare it to. Now recently most of them have seen buffs. Even more so on the premium front like the Russian meds etc. And IMO the KR fell a bit back, even if it got a mantle buff that made it rather good on the ridge lines.

Edited by Balc0ra, 13 March 2018 - 02:25 PM.


Mr_Burrows #13 Posted 13 March 2018 - 02:44 PM

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Only load prem ammo. The KR needs it, and needs it badly. 

Coldspell #14 Posted 13 March 2018 - 04:17 PM

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So hadn't played this tank basically since the week it was released.

This thread inspired me to give it another go, played 3 games and yes its going back in the vault till a buff.

Essentially its a heavily nerfed medium version of the patriot.... the patriot is not as mobile but not far off, has a better gun (its standard pen almost matches the KR premium pen) , it has a better turret, better hull armour..... the KR is trash.

 

3 games first well my team decided to kill each other at the start so we had 2 half HP top tier heavies and 1 dead lorr before the match had really begun, was a loss, did 400 damage......

Second game bum rushed by tier 10 meds did 800 damage woooo.

Third game did 1.4k and won again a tier 10 game.

Its crippled by terrible gun handling, sub par pen and the mobility is pretty trash for a medium which hurts a lot when out-tiered.

Yes just put it away in the vault till wg buff it, to be brutally honest it feels like a pref mm tank without pref mm.



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View PostTankkiPoju, on 13 March 2018 - 12:49 PM, said:

 

T-44-100 is a special case in that sense, the tank isn't really worth 50 euros.

 

Yeh but it does still keep getting released at that price so it wouldn't surprise me that WG buffed it to give it more value and appeal so more people buy one in the future. 

Solstad1069 #16 Posted 13 March 2018 - 04:28 PM

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The point of playing tier 8 premiums is to make credits, but when the matchmaker force you into shooting premium ammo

8 out of 10 battles and you end up making the same credits you do in a normal tank at any tier. Whats the point?

I would not sell it. They might give u better MM in the future.



Balc0ra #17 Posted 13 March 2018 - 04:39 PM

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View PostSolstad1069, on 13 March 2018 - 04:28 PM, said:

The point of playing tier 8 premiums is to make credits, but when the matchmaker force you into shooting premium ammo

8 out of 10 battles and you end up making the same credits you do in a normal tank at any tier. Whats the point?

I would not sell it. They might give u better MM in the future.

 

And yet, most of the targets my tier 8 prems suffer most vs, is tier 8 HT's, not tier X's. Then again, if you can't pen it. Why attack it or seek it out? If you don't want to deal with it, then go a different way. No point for my IS-6 to go the HT line to be 100% useless if they have a Type 4 and a VK 100.01 is it?

 

I have 5 gold rounds on all my tier 8 prem's.  Even on my IS-6. Somehow they still manages to find something they can deal with. Do damage to, and make me credits. Heck even my ELC even 90 did over 4K damage with no gold ammo used in +2 games more then once with it's 175 pen going for side and rear armor. As I had over 6km driven on one of them. If you feel forced to use gold ammo all the time, you are fighting on the enemy terms to much. And you need to dictate the fight more. I have no interest on keeping the VK 100.01 or Type 4's in a corridor to fight them in my T26E4 if he has to deal with them late game. Then I will let them sit there.


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After they buffed it some point it got a little better, but at least for me it's highly situational. I can, on occasion, get a decent result but it really depends on MM, terrain and a number of other factors. I think if you find a spot where you can use peek-a-boo tactics hiding your hull and relying on the turret/mantle plus quick reflexes for that perfectly timed shot that is when the tank can work for you.

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View PostBalc0ra, on 13 March 2018 - 04:39 PM, said:

 

And yet, most of the targets my tier 8 prems suffer most vs, is tier 8 HT's, not tier X's. Then again, if you can't pen it. Why attack it or seek it out? If you don't want to deal with it, then go a different way. No point for my IS-6 to go the HT line to be 100% useless if they have a Type 4 and a VK 100.01 is it?

 

I have 5 gold rounds on all my tier 8 prem's.  Even on my IS-6. Somehow they still manages to find something they can deal with. Do damage to, and make me credits. Heck even my ELC even 90 did over 4K damage with no gold ammo used in +2 games more then once with it's 175 pen going for side and rear armor. As I had over 6km driven on one of them. If you feel forced to use gold ammo all the time, you are fighting on the enemy terms to much. And you need to dictate the fight more. I have no interest on keeping the VK 100.01 or Type 4's in a corridor to fight them in my T26E4 if he has to deal with them late game. Then I will let them sit there.

 

I have the French M4Rev which is a very good premium tank and a very good credit maker. 

But i want to shoot at tier 6 just as much as tier 10, NOTHING else matters.

 

The 3-5-7 MM would be fine if the mm could give me more tier 8 mediums to shoot at, but normally u get 1, the rest are all kind of soviet object tanks.

On top of that u get Kharkov, Pilsen and Paris, which forces you into a passive playstyle trying to suport. But lets just face it as soon as you are spotted everyone and their dog aims at you. M4Rev, the sure penetration.

 


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smokeytheband1t #20 Posted 13 March 2018 - 06:56 PM

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so i guess..i wasn't wrong.. it always felt kinda lackluster ..

 

thanks for the replies .. guess i should go study and get my ridge line warrior license >.>

 

one day i'll get it.. (but he never did..) along the with the image of a KR46 will be engraved on my tombstone.. sjeez






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