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Search_Warrant #1 Posted 16 March 2018 - 02:24 PM

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no idea why they started with the only chinese medium you can buy and not the IS-6, but yeh its getting removed apparently.

 

https://thearmoredpa...-being-removed/

 

probably another ploy by WG to get people to panic buy it since it costs a stupid ammount of money for a "not so great" tank.



Gkirmathal #2 Posted 16 March 2018 - 02:54 PM

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What I wonder is, beside this being a last option money grab, is: whether WG has ever considered replacing the 175mm pen 122mm D-25TA gun with some other 122mm type that could feature near to over 200mm?

I don't know enough about Chinese tank armaments, as most of it's tech tree consist of made up designs.

 

What I was thinking off: whether a made-up clone of a Soviet 122mm, for example a clone off the D-25BM that's on the IS-M, could have been a good and workable gun replacement solution? For the T-34-3 and a good addition to the T-34-2 as it's long overdue buff.



Rati_Festa #3 Posted 16 March 2018 - 03:14 PM

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Weird they improved it only to then remove it from sale a few months after.

firelars4 #4 Posted 16 March 2018 - 03:16 PM

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There is still the 59 Patton. But you'll have to wait untill it's on sale again. or the Type 59, but I wouldn't count on that one getting on sale. For the IS-6 they wanted to rebalance the tank iirc, so that's probably why they have no plant to remove that one just yet.

 

Most people still have a lot of gold left over from now ranked battles and the loot boxes and that needs to get drained somehow....



D4wiD3K #5 Posted 16 March 2018 - 03:24 PM

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A perfectly fine tank that has been worth every penny of its price to me. 

spendog8 #6 Posted 16 March 2018 - 03:44 PM

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Used to be a favorite of mine, though the introduction of more and more well armored opponents has dwindled its use for me, have started to shift to meds with better pen. i also find the turret to be quite unreliable.

 

*edit for minor spelling :)*


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Jam_in_a_Tank #7 Posted 16 March 2018 - 04:03 PM

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Who cares about this tank anymore..

Pvt_Duffer #8 Posted 16 March 2018 - 04:08 PM

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The announcements forum and the game website not good enough sources of information for you?

 

You know TVIIi of the week, last chance and all that posted at 0500 this am?

 



Search_Warrant #9 Posted 16 March 2018 - 05:33 PM

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View PostPvt_Duffer, on 16 March 2018 - 03:08 PM, said:

The announcements forum and the game website not good enough sources of information for you?

 

You know TVIIi of the week, last chance and all that posted at 0500 this am?

 

 

some just stay to the general forum.

250swb #10 Posted 16 March 2018 - 05:35 PM

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I like it, glad I've got it already and don't have to make a decision over the weekend or I might only have heard the naysayers. In terms of post-buff in the Chinese tech tree, and what comes after tier VIII, I think it fits better than the much hyped Type 59 and trash 59 Patton.

Edited by 250swb, 16 March 2018 - 05:37 PM.


Negativvv #11 Posted 16 March 2018 - 05:48 PM

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Got a Type 59 at Xmas.

 

This looks like a very similar tank but with worse gun depression and essentially the same weapon as on the IS/IS2.

 

Guess I'm better off saving my gold and playing more Type 59...



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View PostNegativvv, on 16 March 2018 - 04:48 PM, said:

Got a Type 59 at Xmas.

 

This looks like a very similar tank but with worse gun depression and essentially the same weapon as on the IS/IS2.

 

Guess I'm better off saving my gold and playing more Type 59...

 

Except it gets vastly superior gun handling plus VStabs on top of that compared to IS/IS-2. Big difference. It gets like 1s longer reload but the gun is still much better.

Edited by D4wiD3K, 16 March 2018 - 08:17 PM.


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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 16 March 2018 - 04:33 PM, said:

View PostPvt_Duffer, on 16 March 2018 - 03:08 PM, said:

The announcements forum and the game website not good enough sources of information for you?

 

You know TVIIi of the week, last chance and all that posted at 0500 this am?

 

 

some just stay to the general forum.

 

The point was why not link to the announcements forum

 

Or why not link the the news page on the WoT website

 

Instead you gave a link to an external site that just cribbed the information from either of the above

 

 



HundeWurst #14 Posted 16 March 2018 - 09:04 PM

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View PostGkirmathal, on 16 March 2018 - 02:54 PM, said:

What I wonder is, beside this being a last option money grab, is: whether WG has ever considered replacing the 175mm pen 122mm D-25TA gun with some other 122mm type that could feature near to over 200mm?

I don't know enough about Chinese tank armaments, as most of it's tech tree consist of made up designs.

 

What I was thinking off: whether a made-up clone of a Soviet 122mm, for example a clone off the D-25BM that's on the IS-M, could have been a good and workable gun replacement solution? For the T-34-3 and a good addition to the T-34-2 as it's long overdue buff.

 

You are aware that pretty much all high tier tanks are either made up, or never existed - well some might have existed, most only in blueprints and some are made up.

Especially things in the Chinese tree are obvious copies of Soviet designs and most lack any kind of evidence to even ever have existed in blueprints.

 

Most guns have "some random" values to it. These are soloe picked for balancing and have nothing to do with actually existing things.

 

PS: Most people here and pretty much anywhere seem to also lack one keyfact itself. The gun itself is only the (smaller) part of of the penetration value of a round. MUCH more important is the ammo used.

So giving the exact same gun all kinds of different penetration values is completly alright for balancing and the fact that different kinds of ammo could have been used.



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Sold mine sent ticket long time ago :( cannot be restored

Gkirmathal #16 Posted 16 March 2018 - 10:02 PM

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View PostWunderWurst, on 16 March 2018 - 08:04 PM, said:

...snip....

 

Most people here and pretty much anywhere seem to also lack one keyfact itself. The gun itself is only the (smaller) part of of the penetration value of a round. MUCH more important is the ammo used.

So giving the exact same gun all kinds of different penetration values is completly alright for balancing and the fact that different kinds of ammo could have been used.

 

About the made up Chinese part, I'm aware most were fabrications from KongZhong, so nothing new to me.

 

About the ammo/pen.

Would it suffice to say that in your oponion 'making up' new ammo types (to be used as new standard ammo), would then be the most balanced and logical solution for WG to address these tier 8's that would need it?

As it does indeed sound like a good K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple & Stupid principle) solution, which I always do prefer tbh!

 

So, besides the 34-3 and a couple of other Chinese tanks, this could also work as well for the IS-6 and KV-5 for example.

 

 


Edited by Gkirmathal, 16 March 2018 - 10:03 PM.


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View PostD4wiD3K, on 16 March 2018 - 08:17 PM, said:

 

Except it gets vastly superior gun handling plus VStabs on top of that compared to IS/IS-2. Big difference. It gets like 1s longer reload but the gun is still much better.

 

So it's a toss up vs Preferential MM, better pen and gun depression vs Better alpha, Vstab and T10 MM then? I guess gold eliminates the pen issue.

 

Still not a big incentive for me personally.



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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 16 March 2018 - 02:24 PM, said:

no idea why they started with the only chinese medium you can buy and not the IS-6, but yeh its getting removed apparently.

 

https://thearmoredpa...-being-removed/

 

probably another ploy by WG to get people to panic buy it since it costs a stupid ammount of money for a "not so great" tank.

 

Might be because the pref MM meds was never mentioned along with the IS-6 and KV-5 they are considering buffing, and giving it +2 instead. I suspect that's why they never did start with the IS-6. If it's faith is already sealed.

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Just remove the IS-6, please! :angry: WG is really not even trying to subdue the Russian bias meme by removing everything else but Russian prem mm tanks from the tech trees. Not that the IS-6 is even very competitive nowadays, just that they stubbornly refuse to remove anything Russian while freely using the delete key on anything else..



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View PostWunderWurst, on 16 March 2018 - 09:04 PM, said:

PS: Most people here and pretty much anywhere seem to also lack one keyfact itself. The gun itself is only the (smaller) part of of the penetration value of a round. MUCH more important is the ammo used.

So giving the exact same gun all kinds of different penetration values is completly alright for balancing and the fact that different kinds of ammo could have been used.

 

Very true. Most of the penetration gains after WW II where due to improvements in ammunition, and not so much the guns themselves (especially true for Soviet ones).






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