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Ludi_Gnjida_2013 #1 Posted 18 March 2018 - 09:10 AM

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Premium TD WZ-111-FT penetrate IS3 frontaly on turret! Stupid new premium tanks! :(

 

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JocMeister #2 Posted 18 March 2018 - 09:20 AM

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Remember a time when people though the IS3 was OPed and should be in tier 9? :trollface:

Aikl #3 Posted 18 March 2018 - 09:24 AM

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That isn't the premium Chinese TD, it's the tech tree one.
You can check Tanks.gg for the armor model, but I believe that particular part is ~250mm flat. Lucky to hit that, of course, of even know about it (though hitskins are not exactly illegal either).

Edited by Aikl, 18 March 2018 - 09:24 AM.


Kooallu #4 Posted 18 March 2018 - 09:31 AM

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stupid normal chinese tanks that everyone can get, WZ 11111111 gft have 270 pen so it can easily penetrate is3 turret by shooting next to the mantlet.


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Enderman21 #5 Posted 18 March 2018 - 10:20 AM

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Go try IS-M. I've got penetrated in the gun mantlet plenty of times by skorpions, they were not even using premium ammo.

 

On top of that, I once got penetrated in the gun mantlet by an IS-2, which was shooting HEAT. Can you imagine? Tier 7 penetrating spaced armor of a gun mantlet. Pathetic.



VarzA #6 Posted 18 March 2018 - 10:24 AM

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View PostLudi_Gnjida_2013, on 18 March 2018 - 09:10 AM, said:

Premium TD WZ-111-FT penetrate IS3 frontaly on turret! Stupid new premium tanks! :(

 

 

It's not a premium TD.

The premium one is based on the hull of the WZ120/Type 59.

the WZ-111 hull was always the heavy tank hull.

 

Also, that tank gets a 130mm gun that is quite similar to the Jagdtiger top gun, but a tier lower.

For that it gives up speed, mobility, armor ... and HP as well.

It's a slow glass-cannon with casemate gun.

 

While IS3 could easily pass for a t9 medium, and has not been powercreeped since it was buffed.

 

PS: The bigger shame of that picture is that you are one of those ppl who thinks it's a 'smart' idea to take the ice road, and you had friends with you as well. :)


Edited by VarzA, 18 March 2018 - 10:30 AM.


Igor_BL #7 Posted 18 March 2018 - 11:11 AM

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View PostVarzA, on 18 March 2018 - 10:24 AM, said:

 

 

While IS3 could easily pass for a t9 medium,

 

 

 

hahaha

 



TheWarrener #8 Posted 18 March 2018 - 11:20 AM

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View PostVarzA, on 18 March 2018 - 

While IS3 could easily pass for a t9 medium, and has not been powercreeped since it was buffed.

Who needs these useless stats, right? Dpm,  penetration, gun soft stats,  HP,  mobility, camo, view range? These are for nerds! It has 390 alpha so it can be a tier 9 medium, blyat.

 

I think you should get a job in WG's balancing team.

 

Provided you don't work there already.


Edited by TheWarrener, 18 March 2018 - 11:21 AM.


CmdRatScabies #9 Posted 18 March 2018 - 11:31 AM

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View PostJocMeister, on 18 March 2018 - 09:20 AM, said:

Remember a time when people though the IS3 was OPed and should be in tier 9? :trollface:

 

Makes you wonder what WG will powercreep to make the Obj 268 v4 look normal.

LordMuffin #10 Posted 18 March 2018 - 11:35 AM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 18 March 2018 - 11:31 AM, said:

 

Makes you wonder what WG will powercreep to make the Obj 268 v4 look normal.

Indeed, I am somewhat looking forward to the tank that makes Obj 268 v4 look balanced.

Also towards the T8 tank that makes Defender look balanced.



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View PostLordMuffin, on 18 March 2018 - 12:35 PM, said:

Indeed, I am somewhat looking forward to the tank that makes Obj 268 v4 look balanced.

Also towards the T8 tank that makes Defender look balanced.

 

jpze100 buff to 4k dpm and e50ms mobility incoming :D 

on topic - is-3 never had a reliable armor anyway, its always been trollish, but thats about it.


Edited by unrealname, 18 March 2018 - 11:38 AM.


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View PostEnderman21, on 18 March 2018 - 10:20 AM, said:

Go try IS-M. I've got penetrated in the gun mantlet plenty of times by skorpions, they were not even using premium ammo.

 

On top of that, I once got penetrated in the gun mantlet by an IS-2, which was shooting HEAT. Can you imagine? Tier 7 penetrating spaced armor of a gun mantlet. Pathetic.

 

Mantlet of the IS-M to the sides is a single piece of 250 mm. So yes, can be penetrated. What's more pathetic is clueless gobs like yourself crying about basic things you don't even understand.

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View PostEnderman21, on 18 March 2018 - 10:20 AM, said:

Go try IS-M. I've got penetrated in the gun mantlet plenty of times by skorpions, they were not even using premium ammo.

 

On top of that, I once got penetrated in the gun mantlet by an IS-2, which was shooting HEAT. Can you imagine? Tier 7 penetrating spaced armor of a gun mantlet. Pathetic.

 

You do realize that spaced armor only works if there is another layer of armor behind it?

TheDayWeDie #14 Posted 19 March 2018 - 08:22 AM

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In my opinion, in current meta, IS3 is just obsolete in randoms, just like T32 or Tiger 2.

 

WZ-111-FT has a tier X gun (130 mm 59-130JG FT) with 271 pen (normal ammo) and 340 pen (premium ammo). It is not surprising that WZ raped your turret.

 

IS3 is not good for random battles; not anymore. A lot of players use premium ammo not because they have no skills but because there are some tanks with outrageous armours.

 

This is the new Wargaming politics, pay for win and it's understandable, they are not a charity foundation. When a player loads premium ammo, he is not doing so because he has something with you personally but because he is expecting to meet some steel fortress. And when you jump in front of him with your IS3, you are the perfect collateral victim.

 


Edited by TheDayWeDie, 19 March 2018 - 08:29 AM.


Thejagdpanther #15 Posted 19 March 2018 - 08:52 AM

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View PostTheDayWeDie, on 19 March 2018 - 08:22 AM, said:

In my opinion, in current meta, IS3 is just obsolete in randoms, just like T32 or Tiger 2.

 



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Complains about premium tanks...fires premium ammo...  :facepalm:

PauI #17 Posted 19 March 2018 - 10:49 AM

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ooooo poor baby...your former op tier 8 vodka heavy is not working any more....get defender....oh you can't !!....in this case you might wanna learn to play wot better instead of relying on op vodka tanks

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View PostTheDayWeDie, on 19 March 2018 - 08:22 AM, said:

In my opinion, in current meta, IS3 is just obsolete in randoms, just like T32 or Tiger 2.

 

WZ-111-FT has a tier X gun (130 mm 59-130JG FT) with 271 pen (normal ammo) and 340 pen (premium ammo). It is not surprising that WZ raped your turret.

 

IS3 is not good for random battles; not anymore. A lot of players use premium ammo not because they have no skills but because there are some tanks with outrageous armours.

 

This is the new Wargaming politics, pay for win and it's understandable, they are not a charity foundation. When a player loads premium ammo, he is not doing so because he has something with you personally but because he is expecting to meet some steel fortress. And when you jump in front of him with your IS3, you are the perfect collateral victim.

 

 

No, it is still easily one of the best and most versatile tier 8 heavies.

 

You have troll armour side armour for a few bonus saves, bully armour against lower tiers, usable turret armour that works against higher tiers, good mobility, good alpha, decent pen on both rounds and pretty solid gun handling.

 

Only real weakness it has is view range. 

 

It's one of the few tier 8 heavies that is able to reliably bounce high pen rounds, even 340 pen HEAT -

 

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View PostSimeon85, on 19 March 2018 - 12:58 PM, said:

 

No, it is still easily one of the best and most versatile tier 8 heavies.

 

You have troll armour side armour for a few bonus saves, bully armour against lower tiers, usable turret armour that works against higher tiers, good mobility, good alpha, decent pen on both rounds and pretty solid gun handling.

 

Only real weakness it has is view range. 

 

It's one of the few tier 8 heavies that is able to reliably bounce high pen rounds, even 340 pen HEAT -

 

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Of course, IS3 is a very good tank if you analyze it in the way you did. Nevertheless, if you put it into context this tank is not suitable for most of the tier 9 or tier 10 game. Reason? Your picture is the best proof: a heavy tank with its front full of " green zones" is not something you want to play, not as a heavy.

 

In tier 6-8 games IS3 is the king, unless you face tds with tier X guns and, of course, with tier X premium ammo.


Edited by TheDayWeDie, 19 March 2018 - 01:26 PM.


TungstenHitman #20 Posted 19 March 2018 - 01:58 PM

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I see you have that mod that tells you exactly who got spotted and exactly the moment when you are no longer spotted. That's obviously not a massive advantage or cheating. Then moans about an unfair element of the game :sceptic:




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