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what winrate can be sustained by a F2P unicum in solo pub ?


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brumbarr #81 Posted 20 March 2018 - 06:40 PM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 20 March 2018 - 06:15 PM, said:

I think a scratch account with no nothing.

 

But then you can take advantage of any free stuff you get in game of course.

 

See it as a very talented player starting the game for the first time. 

 

I did this during January 2016, but that was about T95E2 and maximising credit/min and xp/min, so the results are kind of lackluster.

My playing was not serious in any way.

 

Well, I do still need to get the T95E2...

dimethylcadmium #82 Posted 20 March 2018 - 06:43 PM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 20 March 2018 - 06:11 PM, said:

There are not a single recently (within latest year) made experiment like this made by a unicum to my knowledge.

So please, point towards those common ones you know about.

Why would someone waste valuable time to convince someone they will never meet, something that is irrelevant? A unicorn will be unicorn even when playing f2p. His WN8 might fluctuate due to lack of excess credits and fresh 75% grinds, but he still wouldn't drop below 2500 WN8 even in worst case scenario. My acount is f2p except for two premiums bought on black friday (which don't even make any special credits on a standard account)

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View Postspuriousmonkey, on 20 March 2018 - 06:29 PM, said:

still, i think the account will be a fail if it doesn't get exactly 3000 wn8. Not 2999. Not 3001. 3000.

 

challenge accepted!

LordMuffin #84 Posted 20 March 2018 - 06:57 PM

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View Postdimethylcadmium, on 20 March 2018 - 06:43 PM, said:


Why would someone waste valuable time to convince someone they will never meet, something that is irrelevant? A unicorn will be unicorn even when playing f2p. His WN8 might fluctuate due to lack of excess credits and fresh 75% grinds, but he still wouldn't drop below 2500 WN8 even in worst case scenario. My acount is f2p except for two premiums bought on black friday (which don't even make any special credits on a standard account)

Don't know, I wouldn't if I wasn't paid.

 

That said, it can be interesting to see the difference (if it exists) between paying and not paying for the same player.

Will the WR and wn8 change? By how much?

 

It isn't about proving that paying makes unicum, only about trying to see how big (if existing) the advantage of paying is.



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View Postdimethylcadmium, on 20 March 2018 - 06:43 PM, said:

My acount is f2p except for two premiums bought on black friday (which don't even make any special credits on a standard account)

 

ummmm.... huh ?

I see 7 bought premiums in your tank list and do you pretend that neither the WZ-120-1G FT, the M4A1 Revalorisé nor the STA-2 have increased credits income ??

The WZ and the Rev are the 2 tanks you played the most.


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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 20 March 2018 - 07:25 PM, said:

 

ummmm.... huh ?

I see 7 bought premiums in your tank list and do you pretend that neither the WZ-120-1G FT, the M4A1 Revalorisé nor the STA-2 have increased credits income ??

The WZ and the Rev are the 2 tanks you played the most.

 

WZ-120-1G + STA-2 = the 2 prems I bought

M4A1 = i got it by trading in STA-2 for a discount

Excelsior = invite code crap, rage sold

T-127 = invite code crap, sold - boring to play

Valentine, Stug = free

Matilda IV and BP = bought on 75% discount, rage sold 2 weeks later

 

You see, I sometimes play world of tanks after a frustrating day at uni so I come here, get some more buttsecks from WoT (tin foil hat *rigged* session to counter balance winrate) and I rage sell a tank because I lose like 8 games in a row. I sold loads of tanks, even 3marked gems like T29 and T20, and an arty piece (Lorr 155 50)

 

Sure, Ravioli and Woozie-120 increased my credits, but I lost it all due to my rage-selling habits. I bought the Pershing, T32 and WZ-132 all TWICE, and rage sold them so if i want them now, it's gonna be third time. I mean, look at my garage, this is what I have in it after 3700 battles:

 

WZ-131 / Pz.Sfl.IVc/ StuG III G / BDR G1 B / AMX 13 75 / WZ-131G FT / Chi-Ha / Revalorise / WZ-120-1G

 

So yeah, i basically nullified my "premium tank" advantage. I do have some nice 5 skill crews in them, though.

 


Edited by dimethylcadmium, 20 March 2018 - 09:04 PM.


CptBarney #87 Posted 20 March 2018 - 11:03 PM

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I guess if i hadn't messed around for 8-10k games i would of had better stats. But then i never fired a single round of premium ammo accept maybe the odd time i had them in load out near the start.

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Let me guess without reading anything but the title, you are down to challenges to prove if unicum can be achieved with no premium. Ok , I cheated a bit, saw something on this page.

 

Well, who cares really ?

It's like one of those challenges where someone dares another guy to do something stupid. Because stupid it is to try and play a game that isn't meant to be played cash free, in that way and expect same results. That doesn't prove anything. Padding lower tiers is not the same as getting WN8 in tier X and with a total free account you can afford to play until tier 8, maybe some tier 9. 



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Did the 100% no-premium thingy with the recruitment program. Lower WN8, no noticeable effect on the wr. 2/3 marked tanks.

 

http://wotlabs.net/e...scrub_mcscrooge

 

I've used the account since for low tier drunk tonking so the wn has gone down a bit from the original results. 

 

 


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Here is my skill only account(gold income only from invite code), gold rounds was fired only in Chariotter 8tier.  OPier tank - more winrate ofc.

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View PostJocMeister, on 19 March 2018 - 09:46 PM, said:

 

No you don´t. More like 1000-1500.

 

 

 

yes I do...

now I have played low tiers and I wonder what your next aggravation will be

 



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Completely depends on the tank. I've got a Luchs with something like 70% WR (450+ battles) with no gold ammo or consumables and 100% solo pub.

I have plenty of 60-65% WR non-premium tanks as well, all solo pub battles (I'm anti-social).

I've also never gone full gold, with gold ammo usually taking up 20-30% of my full ammo load-out and I've never used free XP to skip a tank higher than tier 4.

If I find a tank in a line that absolutely sucks then I often just stop playing that line.


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Shishx currently has a 57% win rate and 2.5k WN8 on his F2P account.

 

Last I saw he was suffering through the stock Centurion I, so things might change.



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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 21 June 2018 - 05:35 PM, said:

 

yes I do...

now I have played low tiers and I wonder what your next aggravation will be

 

 

You said: "I know I play an average of 2500 to 3000 WN8 in low tiers"

 

I said: "more like 1000-1500".

 

Your recents: 2079 wn8 over 308 battles. Avg tier 4,74.

 

Pretty much right between where we said. I guess we will call it a draw.

 

Good for you. Extra point for the necro.


Edited by JocMeister, 21 June 2018 - 07:30 PM.


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View PostJocMeister, on 21 June 2018 - 07:20 PM, said:

 

You said: "I know I play an average of 2500 to 3000 WN8 in low tiers"

 

I said: "more like 1000-1500".

 

Your recents: 2079 wn8 over 308 battles. Avg tier 4,74.

 

Pretty much right between where we said. I guess we will call it a draw.

 

Good for you. Extra point for the necro.

 

lol

what a keyboard warrior you are

 

I think 2800 WN8 and 68% WR in the Pz38t in the last 30 days prove my point

 

you are so pathetic

 


Edited by HassenderZerhacker, 21 June 2018 - 07:36 PM.


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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 21 June 2018 - 07:36 PM, said:

 

lol

what a keyboard warrior you are

 

I think 2800 WN8 and 68% WR in the Pz38t in the last 30 days prove my point

 

you are so pathetic

 

 

You remember an argument on the WoT forum that took place 3 month ago. You then pad wn8 in a tier 3 tank to win that argument and then necro the thread to "win". And I´m the pathetic one? :trollface:

 

Since it seems to mean that much for you and you were closer by 79 wn8 I´ll concede you the win.

 

Congrats. 

 


Edited by JocMeister, 21 June 2018 - 07:46 PM.





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