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Enderman21 #1 Posted 20 March 2018 - 07:33 PM

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WG, can you actually remove or fix this [edited]tank already? What the [edited]is this disgusting crap?

 

He drives and has his side FULLY exposed to me but still I decide it is better to shoot the front upper plate because I know how retarded the side armor is and no, I didn't pen him. Then he still has the side tank FULLY exposed to me and I shoot him in the side, with bounce again. I'm shooting him with IS-7 gun.

 

I have 26k battles and I'm struggling to deal with this crapof a tank, how do you expect newer players with tier 7 and 8 to do?

 

Do [edited]something about it.



samuelx43a #2 Posted 20 March 2018 - 07:37 PM

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If he went full flush side with your IS-7, aim at the upper side plate, never below that or the overmatch mechanics will start to show.

For the front just to for the lfp, as it is incredibly easy to hit and pen.

If you have good rng, or height advantage, go for the cupolas or the ret roof as it is very weak and easily overmachable



unrealname #3 Posted 20 March 2018 - 08:30 PM

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idk, i have 0 issues dealing with them, played 2 battles myself in it, won both with 4k dpg and then sold it. why did i sell it you might ask? its too sluggish for my liking, i much prefer playing T-10 instead, dpm is better, pen is better, not even mention difference in mobility and turret roof is even easier to hit than on T-10. yesterday i totally wrecked 257 on prokhorovka in my wz 111-1-4 through his gun mantlet, as it appears that to the right of the gun(when you face one) its not 350, but "only" 280 effective, so HEAT goes through it every time ;) i didnt shoot his turret roof, because he was slightly above me.

 

p.s. im sorry to all 257 lovers, that i mentioned not so widely known weakspot on your sealclubing tank :) one thing im sure of is that 257 is great for yoloing, as some people panic and shoot it in lower part of side armor, track roadwheel, because its a widespread conception, that those should be a weakspot on any tank.



Karasu_Hidesuke #4 Posted 20 March 2018 - 09:30 PM

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It's a weird tank. The sides can easily bounce 5.5k damage including gold. Then, suddenly, the front turns into cheese.

Edited by Browarszky, 20 March 2018 - 09:31 PM.


_EXODUZ_ #5 Posted 20 March 2018 - 10:11 PM

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257's are really easy to deal with, especially in an IS7 lol.

Aikl #6 Posted 20 March 2018 - 10:23 PM

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Luckily, most 257 drivers seem to be more on the casual side. :P

Balc0ra #7 Posted 20 March 2018 - 10:24 PM

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View PostEnderman21, on 20 March 2018 - 07:33 PM, said:

I have 26k battles and I'm struggling to deal with this crapof a tank, how do you expect newer players with tier 7 and 8 to do?

 

And yet my ELC 90 can pen that upper side flat on. Either you hit to low, or you hit the thin line between the upper and lower side. Because flat on, your IS-7 would more or less auto pen that upper side armor. But the bigger the angle of impact. It can drop to 50% rather fast or even lower if you were not attacking him flat on. Like it would vs most HT's.

 

As having 26K battles is irrelevant if RNG says no, or you over angle your attack, or if you combine both. Because if it was broken, it would not have a 48% server wide WR would it?


Edited by Balc0ra, 20 March 2018 - 10:26 PM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #8 Posted 20 March 2018 - 10:25 PM

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View Post_EXODUZ_, on 20 March 2018 - 10:11 PM, said:

257's are really easy to deal with, especially in an IS7 lol.

 

I swear everyone was telling us the 257 was totally broken and OP.  Must be a new week?

 

Still, we can all look forward to the release of the Italian tanks soon so we can hear the community tell us how broken and OP they are.



Warzey #9 Posted 21 March 2018 - 02:41 AM

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Mister Enderman21 here is complaining about the side armor of Obj 257 while driving an IS-7, let that sink in for a moment.

Sfinski #10 Posted 21 March 2018 - 06:29 AM

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I have yet to encounter a good 257 player. Never see them reverse sidescraping. After all, it's what it does the best and is pretty much the only thing it excels in. Side is trollish, but as everyone knows that everyone should be able to deal with it. I still think the V-shape hull doesn't belong to the game. 

Ceeb #11 Posted 21 March 2018 - 06:56 AM

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257 is just another tank in a line of tanks designed for the really bad players in WoT.  

Type 4/5. 268-4, 257.  

All tanks that make the stupids feel more Turgid.  





TankkiPoju #12 Posted 21 March 2018 - 07:32 AM

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Obj257 is quite good, especially since tier 9 MM is so good. I don't know why anyone would say any different, maybe you guys don't want your precious Obj257s nerfed or something. Pure rasha quality. Easier to play than T-10, but lower skill ceiling... makes sense, because 257 has worse DPM, gun handling and mobility.

 

The armor has weakspots, but since the game has RNG in everything, hitting those weakspots is another thing in practice against in any good player who doenst just stand still while reloading. I have armor efficiency of about 1 in mine, so can't really complain.

 

And I agree 100% the V-shaped armor layout is such a brain fart from WG. Should be removed, or just punished hard by reducing hitpoints of such tanks. Why does Obj257 have 1900 hit points, when it doesnt even have much hull or armor, really. It should have same hit points as light tanks.

 

 

View PostSfinski, on 21 March 2018 - 06:29 AM, said:

I have yet to encounter a good 257 player. Never see them reverse sidescraping. 

 

I do that reverse sidescraping sillyness, but only in end game. Usually its a bad idea, because you just block team mates and get punished by arty.

 

257 has such glaring turret weakspots anyway, it's not really that good in reverse sidescraping. It's easier to just do regular sidescraping and just bait shots into the autobounce side area.

 


 

SABAOTH #13 Posted 21 March 2018 - 08:08 AM

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View Post_EXODUZ_, on 20 March 2018 - 10:11 PM, said:

257's are really easy to deal with, especially in an IS7 lol.

 

Yep I agree.

 

Side is trollish but exactly like an IS 3 is so we are used to that.



mortalsatsuma #14 Posted 21 March 2018 - 10:17 AM

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View PostSABAOTH, on 21 March 2018 - 08:08 AM, said:

 

Yep I agree.

 

Side is trollish but exactly like an IS 3 is so we are used to that.

 

Lolwhut?

 

The side is the complete opposite of the IS-3. With the IS-3, you have to pretty much shoot where the tracks are from the side otherwise your shell gets eaten by BS Rasha black hole side armour. The 257 is the opposite, shooting the tracks just means auto-ricochet in most cases thanks to the V-shaped hull so you have to shoot the actual side armour to pen.  



MattieW #15 Posted 21 March 2018 - 02:04 PM

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Was this game on mines by any chance?

panter22 #16 Posted 21 March 2018 - 03:34 PM

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View PostEnderman21, on 20 March 2018 - 06:33 PM, said:

WG, can you actually remove or fix this [edited]tank already? What the [edited]is this disgusting crap?

 

He drives and has his side FULLY exposed to me but still I decide it is better to shoot the front upper plate because I know how retarded the side armor is and no, I didn't pen him. Then he still has the side tank FULLY exposed to me and I shoot him in the side, with bounce again. I'm shooting him with IS-7 gun.

 

I have 26k battles and I'm struggling to deal with this crapof a tank, how do you expect newer players with tier 7 and 8 to do?

 

Do [edited]something about it.

 

easy fix press number 2 problem solved 

Dava_117 #17 Posted 21 March 2018 - 04:23 PM

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View Postpanter22, on 21 March 2018 - 03:34 PM, said:

 

easy fix press number 2 problem solved 

 

And solve nothing because APCR still bounce on lower sides...

Simeon85 #18 Posted 21 March 2018 - 04:48 PM

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View PostWarzey, on 21 March 2018 - 02:41 AM, said:

Mister Enderman21 here is complaining about the side armor of Obj 257 while driving an IS-7, let that sink in for a moment.

 

257 sides are way way way way way way better than the IS7s side. 

 

257 you have to aim at specific spots and have enough pen, IS7 sides you have to avoid a specific spot and pen doesn't matter as flat IS7 side is like 150 effective. 

 

257 is a broken design that should not be in the game, it's the same as the 907 but more extreme. 






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