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Zugzwang_ChairmanLao #1 Posted 20 March 2018 - 11:42 PM

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My main question which never got an answer for it is why guys like this are not either 1-banned from the game since they add nothing to the game if not ruining it in absence of any balance in terms of skill between the teams OR 2-doesn't have his own MM so people like him are forced to play with each other and NORMAL people will also play with each other



unhappy_bunny #2 Posted 20 March 2018 - 11:50 PM

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How are we to know? Try raising the issue with support, not that they will answer you. 

 

They are not banned unless evidence is there that they are genuine bots. Being bad is not against the rules of the game as well you know. 

 



Fighto #3 Posted 21 March 2018 - 12:17 AM

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Thats not a bot,  feast your eyes on this................................

 



Balc0ra #4 Posted 21 March 2018 - 12:25 AM

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Depends on your definition of bot. By the looks if it, he is just bad and nothing more. He more or less have 1 average capture point vs wins. Indicating he caps before he shots anything, or reads the map. Or he dies before he gets a shot off.

 

Bad players facing good, that's more or less what you get. He dies before he gets to do anything. Or he is to passive most of the time. And does things to late. No everyone is the boy wonder that most here are in this game sadly.

 

 



Mike_Mckay #5 Posted 21 March 2018 - 12:58 AM

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As long as someone that bad is on each team I really don't see what your problem is to be honest


Infact even if your team has 14 players like that you still have an "equal" chance of winning if you get gud and carry hard apparently, so stop crying like a six year old girl and man up :)

Edited by Mike_Mckay, 21 March 2018 - 01:17 AM.


Jigabachi #6 Posted 21 March 2018 - 04:08 AM

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The inflationary use of the term "bot" is really getting annoying...

Mike_Mckay #7 Posted 21 March 2018 - 04:48 AM

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View PostJigabachi, on 21 March 2018 - 03:08 AM, said:

The inflationary use of the term "bot" is really getting annoying...

 

I really have bot bot the faintest idea bot you are talking a bot

TheDayWeDie #8 Posted 21 March 2018 - 06:23 AM

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In these days the bots problem is quite solved compared to the past similar problems

 

There were (and stil are) some mods who "help" people to grind their line while they are at job or doing something else. These mods basically throw the tank into the battle, one after another, without doing anything else. Some other mods are quite complexe, moving the tank to nowhere or, worst, if the team is winning, the mod moves the tank to the cap field in order to gain experience by capping.

 

Of course, if the player is bottom tier, his influence to the game is minimal in that circumstances. However, if he is top tier, that might be a problem in the dynamic of the game. The only solution is to report them but I don't know if WG cares about it.

 

Best thing to do is to spot them from the very beginning and to not trust their action. If you spot them from the start, do not rely on their help. It will help you to be more cautios even if that bot will follow the team on main push or, worst, if he "keeps your back". You must ignore them and consider that you have a 14 players team, not 15. Do not expect them to do something (keeping a flank, covering your position, helping you  etc). But, I repeat, you must spot them from the very beginning and XVM can help you with that if you don't have so much experience to spot them.

 

A 5k player with under 50 WN8 and 40% winrate is likely to use that kind of scripts and you can not know if he is at keyboard in that moment or he is at his job. Remember, any game on this planet is about winning and no one will play 5k battles for the pleasure of losing.

 

 

 

 



Sfinski #9 Posted 21 March 2018 - 06:34 AM

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Have to always remember, the worst of the worst are people, like sub 45%. Then come the bot-programs at 45-46%, and then again people. Bots don't, intentionally or not, hinder their teammates the whole game, making them lose more. People do. So, bot is an compliment for some people. 

SABAOTH #10 Posted 21 March 2018 - 07:51 AM

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View PostJigabachi, on 21 March 2018 - 04:08 AM, said:

The inflationary use of the term "bot" is really getting annoying...

 

Agree, people lost sight that it was used to troll terribad players pushing and ruining your game, and they started to believe is true. :facepalm:

 

The OP is showing bad players, there are bots much better than these guys.

 

View PostBalc0ra, on 21 March 2018 - 12:25 AM, said:

Depends on your definition of bot. By the looks if it, he is just bad and nothing more. He more or less have 1 average capture point vs wins. Indicating he caps before he shots anything, or reads the map. Or he dies before he gets a shot off.

 

Bad players facing good, that's more or less what you get. He dies before he gets to do anything. Or he is to passive most of the time. And does things to late. No everyone is the boy wonder that most here are in this game sadly.

 

 

 

Seeing my wife playing with me, made me realize how bad you can get: she tries hard, but panics and since is not super intuitive stops when shot and try to find targets (does not even know how to autoaim).

 

There is plenty of such players and she is not even the worst with 52% win rate

 

 

As you can see bots are better than your average player:

 


Edited by SABAOTH, 21 March 2018 - 07:55 AM.


Jahrakajin #11 Posted 21 March 2018 - 08:27 AM

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Would there be good players without the bad ones?

captainpigg #12 Posted 21 March 2018 - 08:49 AM

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I have seen one player I am certain was a bot in my 30k battles, plenty of brain-dead morons but again only one bot.

 

Wait Jahrakjin is no longer a forum-mod ^^^^



Captain_Kremen0 #13 Posted 21 March 2018 - 08:49 AM

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Bot's should be handled very gently with a little caress, before slipping her the old shocker.....Oh... wrong type of bot.

Taxi!



Pandabird #14 Posted 21 March 2018 - 08:57 AM

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Bots are better than that. My guess the stats in question belong to some specific kind of people that get their kicks out of spectating games, only firing when they're unloading

Sircapalot #15 Posted 21 March 2018 - 09:23 AM

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View PostSABAOTH, on 21 March 2018 - 06:51 AM, said:

 

Seeing my wife playing with me, made me realize how bad you can get: she tries hard, but panics and since is not super intuitive stops when shot and try to find targets (does not even know how to autoaim).

 

 

Makes me wonder how you play the game yourself,...... since your wife has a better winrate then you...:trollface:

 

 



SABAOTH #16 Posted 21 March 2018 - 09:24 AM

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View PostSircapalot, on 21 March 2018 - 09:23 AM, said:

 

Makes me wonder how you play the game yourself,...... since your wife has a better winrate then you...:trollface:

 

 

 

Simple: I draw backwards and wiggle my turret :girl:

Edited by SABAOTH, 21 March 2018 - 09:24 AM.


Geno1isme #17 Posted 21 March 2018 - 09:53 AM

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View PostZugzwang_ChairmanLao, on 21 March 2018 - 12:42 AM, said:

My main question which never got an answer for it is why guys like this are not either 1-banned from the game since they add nothing to the game if not ruining it in absence of any balance in terms of skill between the teams OR 2-doesn't have his own MM so people like him are forced to play with each other and NORMAL people will also play with each other

 

Why do people like you not understand that neither "solution" would work in the long-run?

 

Stats are relative. If you ban all <48% players from the server, what would be the consequence? Correct, the winrates of the remaining players would decrease, as now the 48-50% players would be the bottom class and loose more often, while the >50% players could no longer feast on easy victims and also loose more often. Same thing if you put all <48% players in a separate MM: overall WR in that MM would still be around 49,5%, so some of them would start to get >50% WR. And then what, put those back into the "normal" MM and basically not change a thing? Then no point bothering with that nonsense in the first place.



Draz_H #18 Posted 21 March 2018 - 10:00 AM

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I love farming bots.

TungstenHitman #19 Posted 21 March 2018 - 10:10 AM

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These are the sort of players you want to be against when your on 7 kills with 3 enemies left. Keep em coming ;)

Homer_J #20 Posted 21 March 2018 - 10:15 AM

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View PostZugzwang_ChairmanLao, on 20 March 2018 - 10:42 PM, said:

My main question which never got an answer for it is why guys like this are not either 1-banned from the game since they add nothing to the game if not ruining it in absence of any balance in terms of skill between the teams OR 2-doesn't have his own MM so people like him are forced to play with each other and NORMAL people will also play with each other

 

What if I told you that guy played all his battles.

 

OK, I don't know that guy but I do know people who have similar stats and play all their battles.  If you want a successful multiplayer game then you will have to accept that most people do actually, really, just play for amusement.






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