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911_tanker #1 Posted 22 March 2018 - 01:58 AM

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Hi,

 

I am not sure, but I feel that the Skorpion G has been "silently" nerfed in the following aspects:

 

1. Dispersion

2, traverse speed

 

if you have a Skorpion G, would you please check?



Balc0ra #2 Posted 22 March 2018 - 02:05 AM

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Is it because it feels like it, or because you see the numbers have changed? Because the numbers are the same as always.

dimethylcadmium #3 Posted 22 March 2018 - 02:10 AM

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It didn't get nerfed.

 

Maps got changed though, some pathways and well known areas may have different terrain now, and that could possibly affect the traverse speed (for example, the terrain at the spawns is now all "muddy" so when you're driving on it your tank is driving under the "Soft terrain resistance" instead of a "Medium terrain resistance" on the "dry mud" from 9.22. Hope I was clear enough
 



WhosNachos #4 Posted 22 March 2018 - 02:31 AM

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no nerf, checked old and new files

Edited by WhosNachos, 22 March 2018 - 02:31 AM.


Homer_J #5 Posted 22 March 2018 - 02:31 AM

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View Post911_tanker, on 22 March 2018 - 12:58 AM, said:

 

if you have a Skorpion G, would you please check?

Do you have a scientific check we can perform or is this just to be done by feels?



NUKLEAR_SLUG #6 Posted 22 March 2018 - 04:03 AM

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But 'da feels' is the internationally accepted standard metric for quantifying changes over time. If you're going to start asking for things like 'evidence' then next thing you know you'll be demanding actual 'confirmed facts' over 'I read it on some blog some place' and at that point we might as well just give up all hope of reason.



Bora_BOOM #7 Posted 22 March 2018 - 09:04 AM

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First, got spotted from the Moon.

Then I shot into the ground (German accuracy)

Few shots later I snapped one that should be a miss.

Next was one snipe shot with leading like a boss and killing speeding tank that was 1/2 behind cover.

After that managed to shoot tracks of T62-a from point blank without doing dmg (Russian bias).

 

All in all - it’s intact.



SonyAD #8 Posted 19 April 2018 - 01:18 PM

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Yes, it's been silent nerfed. Anyone who disagrees doesn't own the tank or bought it after the nerf. The gun handling is just bad now. You will only hit shots which aren't almost completely aimed in if you're lucky. Which is something you could reliably do before. Even fully aimed in, the gun does not shoot as a gun with 0.27 dispersion should. More like soviet .42. And aim time is noticeably longer than it used to be. Even hull traverse speed seems worse. All of this despite using chocolate and not using it before. And my crew has BIA, snapshot and smooth ride at 100%. And I am at 98% on my 4th skill on my crew.

 

People who say otherwise don't actually own the tank or bought it only after the nerf. And they're just full of it, just like people who say the Grille is ok or still OP when it's the worst tier 8.5 TD at tier 10.

 

But you're wrong on one thing. The skorpion wasn't nerfed with patch 1.0 though. No, it happened much earlier. Circa 9.21 or 9.22 or even earlier.



ThinGun #9 Posted 19 April 2018 - 01:27 PM

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Play the tank every day.  Can't say I've noticed any difference - as another poster said, the ground resistance is worse on some maps now, but that affects all vehicles.

HaZardeur #10 Posted 19 April 2018 - 01:41 PM

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Must be only yours... mine is fine but maybe do it like me, buy a Fort Knox from prem shop and RNG & MM is on your side.

SABAOTH #11 Posted 19 April 2018 - 01:45 PM

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View PostSonyAD, on 19 April 2018 - 01:18 PM, said:

Yes, it's been silent nerfed. Anyone who disagrees doesn't own the tank or bought it after the nerf. The gun handling is just bad now. You will only hit shots which aren't almost completely aimed in if you're lucky. Which is something you could reliably do before. Even fully aimed in, the gun does not shoot as a gun with 0.27 dispersion should. More like soviet .42. And aim time is noticeably longer than it used to be. Even hull traverse speed seems worse. All of this despite using chocolate and not using it before. And my crew has BIA, snapshot and smooth ride at 100%. And I am at 98% on my 4th skill on my crew.

 

People who say otherwise don't actually own the tank or bought it only after the nerf. And they're just full of it, just like people who say the Grille is ok or still OP when it's the worst tier 8.5 TD at tier 10.

 

But you're wrong on one thing. The skorpion wasn't nerfed with patch 1.0 though. No, it happened much earlier. Circa 9.21 or 9.22 or even earlier.

 

Just checked, but no works like last year.

 

German guns like to dig the ground, because accurate :coin:



SonyAD #12 Posted 19 April 2018 - 01:56 PM

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No, the gun didn't use to be this bad. And it supposedly has 0.27 because of BIA and chocolate. It's had the Grille 15 / Waffenträger auf Pz. IV 12,8 cm Kanone L/61 treatment. Where the accuracy on paper is excellent but the gun actually handles like a soviet 122 with .42~.45 accuracy.

Geno1isme #13 Posted 19 April 2018 - 02:01 PM

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View Post911_tanker, on 22 March 2018 - 02:58 AM, said:

I am not sure, but I feel that the Skorpion G has been "silently" nerfed in the following aspects:

 

Again? Going by forum reports the tank is stealth-nerfed in every patch since it was introduced.

 

View Post911_tanker, on 22 March 2018 - 02:58 AM, said:

if you have a Skorpion G, would you please check?

 

And how should we do that in your opinion? You know, check stats before/after the patch, not check our feelings.



Poerhis #14 Posted 19 April 2018 - 02:19 PM

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How many old Skorpion threads are you gonna raise up, SonyAD?

 

Also, the gun has always been a bit potato due to the horrible bloom stats.



Kirusawa #15 Posted 20 April 2018 - 11:13 AM

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View PostSonyAD, on 19 April 2018 - 01:18 PM, said:

Yes, it's been silent nerfed. Anyone who disagrees doesn't own the tank or bought it after the nerf. The gun handling is just bad now. You will only hit shots which aren't almost completely aimed in if you're lucky. Which is something you could reliably do before. Even fully aimed in, the gun does not shoot as a gun with 0.27 dispersion should. More like soviet .42. And aim time is noticeably longer than it used to be. Even hull traverse speed seems worse. All of this despite using chocolate and not using it before. And my crew has BIA, snapshot and smooth ride at 100%. And I am at 98% on my 4th skill on my crew.

 

People who say otherwise don't actually own the tank or bought it only after the nerf. And they're just full of it, just like people who say the Grille is ok or still OP when it's the worst tier 8.5 TD at tier 10.

 

But you're wrong on one thing. The skorpion wasn't nerfed with patch 1.0 though. No, it happened much earlier. Circa 9.21 or 9.22 or even earlier.

Thats right with a grille, i have it also but i dont use it cuz its almost useless. I wroted already a ticket about thw accuracy as well but like always wg ignored me with a ctrl+c ctrl+v meningless sin. Cuz that 0.24 most accurate tank etc its just a joke 3/1 shot is accurate with fully aim, 1 thinks he is astonaut and goed to the moon, thr second 3m near the target and the 3. Where you aim. Its just a kind of joke. And there comes the type 5 or a russian obj any of them with the worseaccurate 100.1000 and from 600m shot you throught cuz the grille is only not armorless but everyonr can see it as well not like a russian ones. So with the accuracy i dont believe in number ehat someone filled in cuz than ppl think that tank could be usefull :D i had a few good battles with it but mostly i experienced only crapthings.



AvalancheZ257 #16 Posted 20 April 2018 - 08:43 PM

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View Postdimethylcadmium, on 22 March 2018 - 02:10 AM, said:

It didn't get nerfed.

 

Maps got changed though, some pathways and well known areas may have different terrain now, and that could possibly affect the traverse speed (for example, the terrain at the spawns is now all "muddy" so when you're driving on it your tank is driving under the "Soft terrain resistance" instead of a "Medium terrain resistance" on the "dry mud" from 9.22. Hope I was clear enough
 

 

I suspected as much. If WG changes a premium tanks parameters everyone loses their minds, but no one can do anything if they just change the environment around said premium tank. because technically players still have the thing they paid for. 

 

That said, changing the terrain type in spawn is a bit useless. What good is it? I'm not sure anymore... 



MattieW #17 Posted 22 April 2018 - 07:47 PM

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I’ve no idea what’s going on... rng...esus at work or what but I cannot hit craptoday with the Skorp.

ok tin foil off and time to log off the game after just 5 rounds 



Kurat666 #18 Posted 22 April 2018 - 07:59 PM

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Dont compare german accuracy numbers with russian ones - in russian system the bigger number is better:trollface:

OllieCromwell #19 Posted 22 April 2018 - 08:51 PM

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I've got one, and some rounds it feels like my gunner has emptied a bottle of vodka and is smoking dope at work, other rounds it feels like I don't even have to aim .... nothing out of the ordinary it seems ... :)

 







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