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Does AMX 50 100 need some buff after intoducing Suoma SM

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G_host_steel #1 Posted 22 March 2018 - 10:48 AM

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With introduction of new French heavy autoloader Suoma SM , the AMX 50 100 seems really bad , for one extra shell you have to reload 13 seconds, and intra clip reload is 0,5 seconds slower which means if you want to empty your clip with 50 100 it would take almost 14 seconds while Suoma does that in just 9s. 

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leggasiini #2 Posted 22 March 2018 - 10:52 AM

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50 100 is much faster, tho. Somua has a lot better armor, but that is not really relevant most of time with current matchmaking, anyway



firelars4 #3 Posted 22 March 2018 - 11:12 AM

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I'd say give it 2000 dpm aswell, decrease the aiming time to 2,7 sec and buff the soft stats on the gun to 0.18 on the move, 0.18 tank traverse and 0.13 turret traverse. 

Simeon85 #4 Posted 22 March 2018 - 11:24 AM

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Considering the Somua's armour looks close to useless against most tanks it faces, especially once people realise it's a 50b and they can almost auto-pen it in the turret, the faster clip and gun handling makes sense as it is super slow compared to the 50100.

 

50100 could probably do with a gun handling buff, but that is more generally as a paper tank in the corridor meta. 



Danbob35 #5 Posted 22 March 2018 - 11:30 AM

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I havnt played the Somua yet, but after the dust settles, if its any good i will get one however

 

the 50100s speed is amazing, you can easily circle any tank and take them down while trading some Hp, the reload is painful though.

 

i would have to see if the extra armour in the Somua is better than the speed in the 50100 before deciding what to play.



Archaean #6 Posted 22 March 2018 - 12:00 PM

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Buff the IS-3 because of Defender.

Balc0ra #7 Posted 22 March 2018 - 01:04 PM

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Can't say I've been amazed by the few I've seen so far to think it's OP or better vs it.

 

But you gotta consider the differences to. 50 100 has burst damage, mobility, speed and 0.33 dispersion. So it's even better at range. The premium has better armor, less reload, less time between shots & a better aim time. But way worse dispersion. So they want the 50 100 to work more on range, the new Somua seem to be like the T57, tweaked for close range. And I did take my 50 100 out for the first time in ages last night. Faced a few of them. I can afford to bounce a shot or low roll, they can't on a on 1 on 1 vs it.

 

Tho based on the reload he has on 5 vs the 50 100's 6 rounds, it would not be unfair to buff the 50 100 by 5-6 seconds. Tho I kinda get the time between shots due to the extra round and due to the long range focus more.

 

Tho the hull armor on it is great by the looks of it when top tier. Turret seems to be penned by anything that don't hit the slope around the gun. Even from tier 6.



_Anarchistic_ #8 Posted 22 March 2018 - 02:14 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 22 March 2018 - 01:04 PM, said:

Can't say I've been amazed by the few I've seen so far to think it's OP or better vs it.

 

But you gotta consider the differences to. 50 100 has burst damage, mobility, speed and 0.33 dispersion. So it's even better at range. The premium has better armor, less reload, less time between shots & a better aim time. But way worse dispersion. So they want the 50 100 to work more on range, the new Somua seem to be like the T57, tweaked for close range. And I did take my 50 100 out for the first time in ages last night. Faced a few of them. I can afford to bounce a shot or low roll, they can't on a on 1 on 1 vs it.

 

Tho based on the reload he has on 5 vs the 50 100's 6 rounds, it would not be unfair to buff the 50 100 by 5-6 seconds. Tho I kinda get the time between shots due to the extra round and due to the long range focus more.

 

Tho the hull armor on it is great by the looks of it when top tier. Turret seems to be penned by anything that don't hit the slope around the gun. Even from tier 6.

 

​50 100 just needs an aim time buff so you can unload when you reload, its too easy to miss shots because aim time so bad and if yu wait to fully aim its what, 22? seconds to unload, that's 3 back and then an age to reload

 







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