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MOTA_BOY #1 Posted 24 March 2018 - 08:15 AM

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Absolutely horrible. Slower than snail, turret traverse is really bad, hull traverse also (except on E75), gun reload takes forever, aiming takes couple of days, and then you miss, or your HEAT round in E100 can't pen a side of a tank....

 

Why do people still play German tanks? And could WG nerf them some more?



Jigabachi #2 Posted 24 March 2018 - 08:46 AM

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Because it's not THAT bad and because there are still people who like to play actual tanks, not just numbers.

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Variety?

It gets boring fast if I have to play the same tanks on the same maps over and over. That's why my garage is rather expansive.



Negativvv #4 Posted 24 March 2018 - 08:58 AM

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Tiger 1 has an exceptional gun. Can even hurt T9 with gold and it's DPM is impressive. Lel armour however.

 

Tiger 2 is for folk who can't afford a Lowe or want an E75...



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Rasha powah is all that counts. Just get used to it, and perhaps ask the modding community for skins that makes them look non-rasha in your own game client. 

leggasiini #6 Posted 24 March 2018 - 09:16 AM

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VK 100.01 P is still OP, Maus is great, Tiger I is also good, so is Löwe, I heard the VK 45.03 is decent as well and E 100 still has 750 alpha + 2700 HP slapped together.

 

Not all of them are bad, lol

 

EDIT: E 75 and VK 4502 B as well, forgot those ^^


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View Postleggasiini, on 24 March 2018 - 09:16 AM, said:

VK 100.01 P is still OP, Maus is great, Tiger I is also good, so is Löwe, I heard the VK 45.03 is decent as well and E 100 still has 750 alpha + 2700 HP slapped together.

 

Not all of them are bad, lol

 

This :coin:

 

Plus I like to play dat E 50 M weak tonk :child:



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View PostNegativvv, on 24 March 2018 - 08:58 AM, said:

Tiger 1 has an exceptional gun. Can even hurt T9 with gold and it's DPM is impressive. Lel armour however.

 

Ohhhh good one :D

Tell that to JagTiger88, so AWSOME with faster same cannon against 257, 263, 430, T95....   xD

When anybody finds Tiger1 on enemy team they beat each other who will rush and get first to Juicy 1500 of Free-Damage

Just RAM it and drive over rotten box, that Tiger1 cannon is so scary OMG, Tier8 tanks RAM into it, Tier9 tanks just exit game from FEAR....

 

View PostNegativvv, on 24 March 2018 - 08:58 AM, said:

Tiger 2 is for folk who can't afford a Lowe or want an E75...

 

You must be masochist to try and drive Tiger2, in tier8 facing Tier9 and 10 games most of the time... it is worst tank in the game today.

E75 is a Stinker... "Tier9 Heavy" with Tier8 Medium turret armor, but Tiger2, omfg....

 

Other tanks like JagTiger, Ferdinand.... just kill it with fire, utter garbage, pls delete from game.

 

EDIT / PS

 

Yea, Vk100 / Maus line is OK, if you want to drive 15kmh around the map, that is your only option in the nation.

 

 


Edited by Innapropriate_Username, 24 March 2018 - 09:21 AM.


Negativvv #9 Posted 24 March 2018 - 09:28 AM

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View PostInnapropriate_Username, on 24 March 2018 - 09:20 AM, said:

 

Ohhhh good one :D

Tell that to JagTiger88, so AWSOME with faster same cannon against 257, 263, 430, T95....   xD

When anybody finds Tiger1 on enemy team they beat each other who will rush and get first to Juicy 1500 of Free-Damage

Just RAM it and drive over rotten box, that Tiger1 cannon is so scary OMG, Tier8 tanks RAM into it, Tier9 tanks just exit game from FEAR....

 

 

You must be masochist to try and drive Tiger2, in tier8 facing Tier9 and 10 games most of the time... it is worst tank in the game today.

E75 is a Stinker... "Tier9 Heavy" with Tier8 Medium turret armor, but Tiger2, omfg....

 

Other tanks like JagTiger, Ferdinand.... just kill it with fire, utter garbage, pls delete from game.

 

EDIT / PS

 

Yea, Vk100 / Maus line is OK, if you want to drive 15kmh around the map, that is your only option in the nation.

 

 

 

Lel I didn't say Tiger 1 was any good vs T9. It just has potential to hurt them with the 2 key. I enjoy the accuracy on the gun anyways.

 

I've mostly given up HTs since Xmas when I've made a conscious attempt to learn the game anyway. So doubt I'll ever get an E75 or bother with the Tiger P supergrind when I could be pushing for BatChat or something...



ThinGun #10 Posted 24 March 2018 - 10:56 AM

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Why play German TDs?  Oh - let's see ...

Marder 38T
RHM Borsig
Skorpion G

E25

 

If you can't have fun in those tanks, then you're probably better off playing Lego.  There is a game being played below Tier 10 ...



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View PostThinGun, on 24 March 2018 - 10:56 AM, said:

Why play German TDs?  Oh - let's see ...

Marder 38T
RHM Borsig
Skorpion G

E25

 

If you can't have fun in those tanks, then you're probably better off playing Lego.  There is a game being played below Tier 10 ...

 

2 of those are premiums, one is not constantly on sale and the other is rarely on sale and behind a huge paywall.

 

PS: I've been asking myself the same question OP, i'll probably keep going for the E100 (need to buy the Tiger II), and the Pz 7, Jageroo, and eventually waffentrager pz4 .... but the rest, i i ask myself 'why'.


Edited by VarzA, 24 March 2018 - 11:21 AM.


MattieW #12 Posted 24 March 2018 - 12:21 PM

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Heavy tanks:

E100, Maus, E75, Tiger 1, Lowe

 

TDs:

Skorpion G, jg E100, e25 

 

all good tanks!



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Because you prefer beer over vodka ? 

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View PostMattieW, on 24 March 2018 - 12:21 PM, said:

Heavy tanks:

E100, Maus, E75, Tiger 1, Lowe

 

TDs:

Skorpion G, jg E100, e25 

 

all good tanks!

 

Don't forget VK 45.02 B and VK 100.01 P.

Grille 15 is still very strong, even after the nerfs. Plenty of people still play it and do very well in it.



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View PostNegativvv, on 24 March 2018 - 09:28 AM, said:

 

Lel I didn't say Tiger 1 was any good vs T9. It just has potential to hurt them with the 2 key. I enjoy the accuracy on the gun anyways.

 

I've mostly given up HTs since Xmas when I've made a conscious attempt to learn the game anyway. So doubt I'll ever get an E75 or bother with the Tiger P supergrind when I could be pushing for BatChat or something...

 

88mm gun with 237mm pen is something you think "has potential to hurt" Tier9 tanks?

May I please refer you to this topic: forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/256052-jagdtiger-88cm/

Also take a look here, the MIGHT of 237mm pen 88mm gun - http://forum.worldof...274-panther-88/

 



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Because the Pz.Kpfw.VII looks like Metal Mickey:trollface:

 


 



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View PostInnapropriate_Username, on 24 March 2018 - 09:57 PM, said:

 

88mm gun with 237mm pen is something you think "has potential to hurt" Tier9 tanks?

May I please refer you to this topic: forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/256052-jagdtiger-88cm/

Also take a look here, the MIGHT of 237mm pen 88mm gun - http://forum.worldof...274-panther-88/

 

 

IMO, the problems with Panther 88 have less to do with the gun than with the fact that the current meta effs it up consistently.

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View Postshane73tank, on 24 March 2018 - 11:25 AM, said:

Because you prefer beer over vodka ? 

 

Pilsner vs Lager. A dirty cheese burger vs a Bratwurst. Personally I tend to go the Guinness route with an shish kebab which inevitability fails to hold its integrity together as the delicious sauce and bite force cause the underside of the bap to structurally fail in a classic "the arse is after falling out of your kebab stupid" moment.. I can live with that  

 

Edit- oh and the thread, well ya no just git gud. All nations have sucky tanks but it ain't all of them, plenty of good German TDs, I keep a Hetzer for seal clubbing fun and a JPanzer because its very lethal for a tier7 and looks amazing, a historical masterpiece even though it never actually had a gun larger than the 88 but fork it who cares lol. The heavies? I don't know much about them. The super heavies, which are a different class on this forum, are legendary so I'll assume you are just talking about the other heavies. Ya maybe they suck as bottom tier I don't know.


Edited by TungstenHitman, 24 March 2018 - 11:46 PM.


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View PostBrowarszky, on 24 March 2018 - 11:39 PM, said:

IMO, the problems with Panther 88 have less to do with the gun than with the fact that the current meta effs it up consistently.

 

WOT 9.17 - "Panther88 is not a bad tank, Mutz is better"

WOT 9.18 - "Panther88 needs some buffs, meta is real problem"

WOT 9.xx - "Panher88 is balanced tank that suffers from bad meta, we add new OP premium tanks to fix it"

WOT 9.xx - "Panther88 suffered from last patch OP-Premium tanks, it is the meta not the tank, we fix it by Buffing all Soviet tanks"

WOT 9.xx - "Panther88 is old tank suffers from meta, but is still Fine Balanced tank, we fix it by buffing half of British tanks"

WOT 9.xx - "Panther88 is still good tank, we buff rest of British line and introduce more OP premium tanks"

WOT 9.xx - "Panther88 is good balanced tank, IT IS FINE, if we buff it it would ruin the game so we Buff Soviet Tier8 tanks so they have stronger Turrets than E75"

WOT 9.xx - "Panther88 suffers from meta, but we bring new OP Soviet tanks in the game, and Buff AGAIN every soviet medium tank"

...

WOT 1.0 - "Panther88  problems have less to do with the gun than with the fact that the current meta..... just load 237mm APCR against Object 257, 430, 430B, 268v4, Badger, etc, etc...."



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View PostInnapropriate_Username, on 24 March 2018 - 11:05 PM, said:

 

WOT 9.17 - "Panther88 is not a bad tank, Mutz is better"

WOT 9.18 - "Panther88 needs some buffs, meta is real problem"

WOT 9.xx - "Panher88 is balanced tank that suffers from bad meta, we add new OP premium tanks to fix it"

WOT 9.xx - "Panther88 suffered from last patch OP-Premium tanks, it is the meta not the tank, we fix it by Buffing all Soviet tanks"

WOT 9.xx - "Panther88 is old tank suffers from meta, but is still Fine Balanced tank, we fix it by buffing half of British tanks"

WOT 9.xx - "Panther88 is still good tank, we buff rest of British line and introduce more OP premium tanks"

WOT 9.xx - "Panther88 is good balanced tank, IT IS FINE, if we buff it it would ruin the game so we Buff Soviet Tier8 tanks so they have stronger Turrets than E75"

WOT 9.xx - "Panther88 suffers from meta, but we bring new OP Soviet tanks in the game, and Buff AGAIN every soviet medium tank"

...

WOT 1.0 - "Panther88  problems have less to do with the gun than with the fact that the current meta..... just load 237mm APCR against Object 257, 430, 430B, 268v4, Badger, etc, etc...."

 

I'm beginning to detect a pattern here.

 

But in part it is true. This tank is described as a sniper/support tank. But on the maps we have had, there is no place for such a tank because faster mediums and LT's will quickly overrun any flank and Panther 88 will struggle in those situations, and struggle badly.






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