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PoIestar #1 Posted 24 March 2018 - 11:07 AM

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The M4 Rev. used to be a nice little tank, a nice mix between med and TD. I liked it when I first got it.

Now I've played like 100 battles in it, and I HATE it. I HATE it with passion and I regret everytime clicking battle with it.

 

And why? Because RNG is supposed to give you a chance of appearing top tier, tier 9 or tier 10. With the M4 Rev, not so much. When you click battle, it's not the question IF you will encounter tier 10's, but how much armor they have to ricochet your pathetic 200 mm penetration.

 

Now obviously, I don't mind a tier 10 game once in a while, but I looked at my statistics, and the last 32 GAMES. were tier 10 matches. In a tier 8 tank.

And let's be honest, this tank is just balanced in a top tier game, in a tier 10 game it's just highly mediocre to bad, and it might as well be a tier 10 tank because of the horendous MM this thing gets.

 

Now my simple question is: is this just my dumb bad luck or is this thing a tier 10 magnet? In case of the latter, I cannot wait for another tank trade season, I want to get rid of it ASAP. A shame, because if there's a possibility of tier 8 games it's a fun and capable little tank.



SABAOTH #2 Posted 24 March 2018 - 11:13 AM

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View PostPoIestar, on 24 March 2018 - 11:07 AM, said:

The M4 Rev. used to be a nice little tank, a nice mix between med and TD. I liked it when I first got it.

Now I've played like 100 battles in it, and I HATE it. I HATE it with passion and I regret everytime clicking battle with it.

 

And why? Because RNG is supposed to give you a chance of appearing top tier, tier 9 or tier 10. With the M4 Rev, not so much. When you click battle, it's not the question IF you will encounter tier 10's, but how much armor they have to ricochet your pathetic 200 mm penetration.

 

Now obviously, I don't mind a tier 10 game once in a while, but I looked at my statistics, and the last 32 GAMES. were tier 10 matches. In a tier 8 tank.

And let's be honest, this tank is just balanced in a top tier game, in a tier 10 game it's just highly mediocre to bad, and it might as well be a tier 10 tank because of the horendous MM this thing gets.

 

Now my simple question is: is this just my dumb bad luck or is this thing a tier 10 magnet? In case of the latter, I cannot wait for another tank trade season, I want to get rid of it ASAP. A shame, because if there's a possibility of tier 8 games it's a fun and capable little tank.

 

Tier 8 MM is fracked since the 3 5 7 came out.

 

No problem for WG they just close the eyes and mimimimimimi so we have to wait



Enforcer1975 #3 Posted 24 March 2018 - 11:15 AM

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Shoot more gold mate.

VarzA #4 Posted 24 March 2018 - 11:17 AM

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I also drive it as my primary premium these days, i just don't care much though.


If it's superheavy, i will let others deal with him and track if i can.

If possible i try to take sides.

 

Overall, i am looking for opportunity shots. at short/medium ranges, but i won't pass on the chance to slap something at long range if i think i have a chance to pen.

Also, HE is good on this tank.



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My last 30 in the Rev: 2 tier 8 games, 7 tier 9 games and the rest tier 10.

 

It sucks, but all those Jageroos need things to shoot whilst they bounce shells so they can feel good about themselves:izmena:



PoIestar #6 Posted 24 March 2018 - 11:24 AM

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View PostSABAOTH, on 24 March 2018 - 11:13 AM, said:

 

Tier 8 MM is fracked since the 3 5 7 came out.

 

I won't deny that, but in my other tier 8 tanks I at least get a top tier match once in a while, in the Rev I get tier 10 games and nothing else. It's frustrating.



TryHardJustLikeMe #7 Posted 24 March 2018 - 11:27 AM

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every prem tank got this problem. believe me its the MM of tier8 atm. but hey as you can see WG seems to want to change it so they put new graphics on a big turd. hope you are happy now :)

VarzA #8 Posted 24 March 2018 - 11:28 AM

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Why ?

Why is it frustrating really ?

 

Rev should not be in the front of a superheavy, it is a support tank, an opportunity seeker.

While it has nice alpha, it also has not so great aim time, and it doesn't compare with stuff like the Lorraine which has a clip.

It can't hold a position, the armor is paper, turret armor too, though it can pull off miracle bounces.

 

First half of the game you are support, opportunity seeker, etc .... 2nd half of the game you go in the front and try to assasinate/kill/find opportunities/spend HP.

 



_EXODUZ_ #9 Posted 24 March 2018 - 11:29 AM

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Wait, OP, didn't you say you're quitting the game?

Dava_117 #10 Posted 24 March 2018 - 12:00 PM

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Well, some Rev. manage to get tier toptier.

With great pleasure for me that can slap them for 910 in KV-2 :trollface:

 

So I would say is your bad luck... :)



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That's another thing, on level ground, a KV-2 (which has 15% better pen on HE shell than Type 4/5 even with premium rounds on derp) can pen it's 'well angled 58mm front' .... and let's not talk of the 38mm of sides/rear.

 

With this tank you always need to have some place to fall back on, ideally behind very hard cover.



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I quite like it but it would be nice with a bit more mobility for when you need to gtfo, it does teach you where to go as there’s no point in meeting tanks head on 

leggasiini #13 Posted 24 March 2018 - 01:08 PM

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Yeah pen can be really ass at times; other than that, I still do kinda enjoy it. I don't think it's MM is any worse than other tier 8s, though; that is just your bad luck.

 

It's pretty hard to play effectively.


Edited by leggasiini, 24 March 2018 - 01:08 PM.


Balc0ra #14 Posted 24 March 2018 - 01:12 PM

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Most of the tier 8 prem meds, or even normal meds envy your 200 pen. Think about that.

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View PostPoIestar, on 24 March 2018 - 11:07 AM, said:

Now obviously, I don't mind a tier 10 game once in a while, but I looked at my statistics, and the last 32 GAMES. were tier 10 matches. In a tier 8 tank.

 

That's nice, shoot the other tier 8's then. M4 RevelationSpace is an awesome tank.

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View PostBalc0ra, on 24 March 2018 - 01:12 PM, said:

Most of the tier 8 prem meds, or even normal meds envy your 200 pen. Think about that.

 

200 APCR is like 175-190 AP. What are they envious of?

 


Edited by dimethylcadmium, 24 March 2018 - 01:25 PM.


Balc0ra #17 Posted 24 March 2018 - 01:42 PM

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View Postdimethylcadmium, on 24 March 2018 - 01:21 PM, said:

 

200 APCR is like 175-190 AP. What are they envious of?

 

Tell that to the US meds when they low roll all the time. As most can go to the 144 area. There is a reason why I don't play my T95E2, or have yet to even touch my T25 pilot in the current meta.


Edited by Balc0ra, 24 March 2018 - 01:42 PM.


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30275, oh wait wrong thread :P

 

it's tier 8, you'll get a top tier game 1 in 100, just another 67 to go....



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View PostBalc0ra, on 24 March 2018 - 01:12 PM, said:

Most of the tier 8 prem meds, or even normal meds envy your 200 pen. Think about that.

 

It's APCR pen, which is not that great at range or when you really need it to go through tracks.

 

Great shell speed though.

 

View PostBalc0ra, on 24 March 2018 - 01:42 PM, said:

 

 

Tell that to the US meds when they low roll all the time. As most can go to the 144 area. There is a reason why I don't play my T95E2, or have yet to even touch my T25 pilot in the current meta.

 

Actually the T25 pilot is my 2nd t8 premium that i play for creds, the alternative to the M4A1 Rev .... it does pretty well.

It could use a buff, but overall, not bad.

 

Standard shell is good overall, premium is ok (not as good as the pershing's obviously), and the HE is surprisingly awesome.

The great thing about the T25 pilot is the vision, it's very easy to get 460m view range on it, without sacrificing gun handling/dpm. :)


Edited by VarzA, 24 March 2018 - 02:10 PM.


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I Feel your pain Polestar I actually stopped playing mine, its a tank that struggles at tier nine never mind tier 10 and I agree the mm hates it.




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