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Erwin_Von_Braun #1 Posted 26 March 2018 - 06:44 PM

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Had a good few games on Sand River (possibly my favourite map) over the weekend and not one was Assault Mode - quite unusual methinks and I'm wondering if something has changed.

Checked settings & have Assault Mode checked.

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Aikl #2 Posted 26 March 2018 - 06:53 PM

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It's actually gone from the training mode (standard, encounter and the TB-mode is still there), so my guess it's gone with the wind. Kind of sucks, despite being unbalanced and prone to crappy teams I've had some really nice games there. :(

 

Oh, and despite all the above it's also better than standard/encounter. At least was; some of the changes in 1.0 seems to make it more playable (if that isn't just because nobody goes north).



TheDrownedApe #3 Posted 26 March 2018 - 06:54 PM

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hmm good point. Ive only assault and standard on but never had it yet either. although i hadn't had Seigfreid standard until just now

Erwin_Von_Braun #4 Posted 26 March 2018 - 06:59 PM

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View PostAikl, on 26 March 2018 - 05:53 PM, said:

It's actually gone from the training mode (standard, encounter and the TB-mode is still there), so my guess it's gone with the wind. Kind of sucks, despite being unbalanced and prone to crappy teams I've had some really nice games there. :(

 

Oh, and despite all the above it's also better than standard/encounter. At least was; some of the changes in 1.0 seems to make it more playable (if that isn't just because nobody goes north).

 

View PostDr_ownape, on 26 March 2018 - 05:54 PM, said:

hmm good point. Ive only assault and standard on but never had it yet either. although i hadn't had Seigfreid standard until just now

 

I really hope that it hasn't - that would be most unfortunate as I've had some of my best games there too :(

Aikl #5 Posted 26 March 2018 - 07:17 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 26 March 2018 - 05:59 PM, said:

 

 

I really hope that it hasn't - that would be most unfortunate as I've had some of my best games there too :(

 

There was no doubt the mode was very biased towards the defending team. Bad balance on maps seem to be grounds for removal (unless it's Ruinedberg), moreso than how fun a map is. Most likely they couldn't figure out what to do to fix it in time for 1.0, so I hope to see it return. Funny how it suddenly was removed, anyway, it's been badly balanced for ages. Maybe it didn't fit in with the changes to the map, hard to tell.

 

Realistically I don't think Wargaming cares too much about assault, however, despite being maps where people can camp in good conscience (as long as they camp useful places).

There's still no way to disable the Standard battle mode, for instance, despite having a matchmaker that will 'force' players into modes they haven't enabled if it's deemed necessary (and the way the matchmaker works, it'll generally prioritize getting a battle out; which very often will be 'standard' because it's the mode everyone has enabled).

(If 'variety' is an argument for not disabling standard mode, then why can you disable the non-standard ones?)


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Strizi #6 Posted 26 March 2018 - 07:23 PM

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Sand river assault was my favorite map, no matter if defending or attacking. Why do they change/remove every good map/mode wtf.

Erwin_Von_Braun #7 Posted 26 March 2018 - 07:23 PM

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View PostAikl, on 26 March 2018 - 06:17 PM, said:

 

There was no doubt the mode was very biased towards the defending team. Bad balance on maps seem to be grounds for removal (unless it's Ruinedberg), moreso than how fun a map is. Most likely they couldn't figure out what to do to fix it in time for 1.0, so I hope to see it return. Funny how it suddenly was removed, anyway, it's been badly balanced for ages. Maybe it didn't fit in with the changes to the map, hard to tell.

 

Realistically I don't think Wargaming cares too much about assault, however, despite being maps where people can camp in good conscience (as long as they camp useful places).

There's still no way to disable the Standard battle mode, for instance, despite having a matchmaker that will 'force' players into modes they haven't enabled if it's deemed necessary (and the way the matchmaker works, it'll generally prioritize getting a battle out; which very often will be 'standard' because it's the mode everyone has enabled).

(If 'variety' is an argument for not disabling standard mode, then why can you disable the non-standard ones?)

 

We live in hope...

Simeon85 #8 Posted 26 March 2018 - 07:27 PM

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Good riddance IMO, 65% win rate for the defending team was a joke, happy to have a balanced version back though. 

8126Jakobsson #9 Posted 26 March 2018 - 07:31 PM

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Aww man, that's one of the maps I get got excited to see loading as I knew I would have a good time. Looking at my wotreplays site there's a Sand River assault one for every page. RIP mid farms :(

jack_timber #10 Posted 26 March 2018 - 07:36 PM

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Shame if it's gone:(

Liked both attacking and defending no real preference.



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View PostSimeon85, on 26 March 2018 - 06:27 PM, said:

Good riddance IMO, 65% win rate for the defending team was a joke, happy to have a balanced version back though.

 

So, recently, you claimed to play for 'fun'.

Attack or defend, Assault Mode on this map was tremendous fun - yet all you seem to be able to muster is as statistical analysis.

Wonder if you even know the meaning of the word 'fun'?



Balc0ra #12 Posted 26 March 2018 - 08:00 PM

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Considering it was the most unbalanced assault map. And the soul reason for me turning the mode off. And as reflected on the map stats when the defenders won what? 70% of the time. It was not working tbh. I'm not gonna miss it for assault anyway.

MeNoobTank #13 Posted 26 March 2018 - 08:02 PM

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Sand river Assault was bad anyway. I don't actually care since I have only the standard mode on ...

D4wiD3K #14 Posted 26 March 2018 - 08:05 PM

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I miss it. It had a bit of balance issues but I also found it the most rewarding map of the game for a good player. Any assault map lost is a huge loss for the game and the players who don't like the mode can simply disable it. I wish I could disable Standard...



TheWarrener #15 Posted 26 March 2018 - 08:07 PM

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Sad, but I turned off assault anyway just to see erlenberg less often 

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Erwin_Von_Braun #16 Posted 26 March 2018 - 08:14 PM

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Any Mods care to confirm if this really is the case?

I  sure hope it isn't:(



L0ddy #17 Posted 26 March 2018 - 08:54 PM

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Win or lose, assault mode was a decent bit of fun. Over the years we have lost some great maps.

 

RIP fun.

 

 



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View Postjack_timber, on 26 March 2018 - 07:36 PM, said:

Shame if it's gone:(

Liked both attacking and defending no real preference.

 

Same. I hope they bring assault back for sand river. It was a bit imbalanced, but like you say, whether attacking or defending: it was nice to play.

NitroDeluxe #19 Posted 26 March 2018 - 10:47 PM

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Sand River standard was a poor map.  Sand River Assault was great.  WG made changes because of "balance" and "improve gameplay" and now they're both crap. 

 

Karelia Assault is worse than it used to be and Siegfreid Line always has been pants.

 

Nobody knows what to do on Erlenberg now.

 

I used to get Assault Mode 1 in 4 games.  Now it's like 1 in 7-8.

 

Assault Mode is now turned off.  The only way I'd turn it back on is if Sand River reverts back to how it used to be.



brumbarr #20 Posted 26 March 2018 - 11:44 PM

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Sad, i am going to miss that and the old erlenberg assault, if you knew what you where doing you always could get great results. Everytime i got them when 3 marking i knew the game was going to be good.




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